After this chapter I seriously don't want them together. I wouldn't be surprised if MD would shift the elements of their BDSM relationship on romantic one and mix them. I wouldn't be surprised if during argument and in anger he would slap Chanwoo. After seeing how easily he can get really toxic and use power inbalance. How he cares more about his grudge than Chanwoo's wellbeing.
Seriously I'm so disgusted with this comment section. Victim blaming, excusing clear toxic behaviour, all the mind games how MD is doing it for Chanwoo's own good? For real? Because to me the biggest motivation is his grudge. All of you missed that smirk in restaurant?
And I don't even want to start on: he dEsErVeD that, kArMa....
Oh it's clear you are either young or just ignorant.
BDSM where dom is mixing his feelings and grudge with a play? Where he is taking his anger out on the sub because he had audacity to reject him? Where he makes sub participate in the play and things he is uncomfortable with under disguise of BDSM scene? And he knows sub won't refuse because of conditions he put on him and they are impacting his choices. What's more it was shown that Chanwoo has problems with limits, he didn't say anything while being strangled to death and MD is fully taking advantage of that. He isn't interested in the other sub in the slightest, he is just getting petty revange on Chanwoo.
This isn't good or safe representation of BDSM.
What karma? People are you mad? Chanwoo has every right to sleep and be with whomever he wants and it's not MD' business. He wanted his new bf to be approved by MD, wanted to see if MD would be willing to continue their play. It was insensitive. But what MD's doing is on a different level. He is mixing his personal feelings, grudge with the play which is unacceptable. He is making Chanwoo participate in the play with the guy who just used him and rejected him. How insensitive is that? Knowing history of Chanwoo's abusive bfs?
MD's is petty and salty and taking his anger on Chanwoo. There is clear power imbalance. It's not safe BDSM play when sub feels obligated to do things he is uncomfortable with and his choices are impacted by some conditions. It's just wrong.
Chanwoo is a dumbass why would he go out with the first handsome guy that approached him but again he was planning to start hoeing around anyway but he even brought him to introduce him to MD knowing MD wanted to date him couple of weeks ago that's a dick move.personally I can't stand chanwoo now , he has a shitty personality.
He has every right, EVERY right as a free man to date anyone he wants. He wanted approval of his dom, he wanted to see if MD would continue their relationship. It was insesitibr on some level but he wanted clear situation.
Oh so making Chanwoo participate in a scene with the guy who just used him and rejected him isn't insesitve?
1. "Chanwoo is a dumbass why would he go out with the first handsome guy that approached him"
- First, that guy was his type that was also into bdsm and was fine with chanwoo being MD's sub in his streams. Second, they went out on dates probably to get to know each other and that guy pretended to be an "i want to treat you right" kind of guy and can you blame Chanwoo for falling for his act when his previous relationships were abusive and toxic? All Chanwoo wanted was a partner. He legit started liking the dude. If there's anyone you should get angry at, it should be that bastard who used Chanwoo and not Chanwoo himself. I don't understand why you keep hating on Chanwoo when he's the victim here.
2. "he even brought him to introduce him to MD knowing MD wanted to date him a couple of weeks ago"
-It's because he was aware that MD might not be happy if he started going out with someone so he wanted to ask if he is still willing to continue their bdsm play before making things(dating) official with the other guy. Besides, it was the other guy who insisted coming along to meet MD immediately. It's not like Chanwoo intentionally brought him with him just to hurt MD.
You can't really put chanwoo's poor decision making on MD .Besides he did gave him the choice to go with the role-play or not just put your hurt feelings aside and you will get it plus the thing about the slap is blown beyond reason , it's not like he punched until he was bleeding , any master in M&S relationship would've done that to punish his submissive partner and MD has feelings for chawoo so he would never really hurt him.now going back to chanwoo's so stupidity thinking he can actually make a relationship work while he's having a BDSM agreement with someone is idiotic because it can never really work in any shape or form
The fact that MD cares more about the rejection and his grudge than Chanwoo's wellbeing is really upsetting.
Its wrong that his emotions led to this. But what Chanwoo did was upsetting too. Now, I wished they wont end up together. The start seems good but the moment MD caught feelings it went downhill. Chanwoo wanted a serious relationship, MD offered, he rejected. MD choked him (horrible). Again, the same Chanwoo who wanted a serious relationship, went out with multiple guys (ch 87) when MD stopped contacting him. Met the new guy and wants to play with new guys dick, and then wants to date him (but apparently he is after MD). MD slapped him. Everybody went crazy. Now, its too complicated and I’m hating the story more and more. Everything feels contradictory.
1) It's unacceptable to mix personal feelings with play. MD's taking advantage of Chanwoo. Chanwoo feels pressured to agree to anything even if he isn't comfortable with it. His choices are impacted by external factors and some conditions which is not safe BDSM play at all.
2) Chanwoo was insensitive but he wanted to be accepted by his dom. It shows he was serious about his relationship and wanted to know if MD would continue their BDSM play with him. Not everyone is comfortable to mix romantic relationship with BDSM one. Because it can change the dynamics of either of them.
3) He is demanding Chanwoo to participate in play with the guy who just used him and rejected him. How insensitive it is? Think about Chanwoo's abusive ex bfs. It's in a poor taste.
4) MD is petty and taking his anger on Chanwoo. He is not interested in the other sub in the slightest. Bad dom representation. Really bad.
5) Stop defending MD just because he is hot and daddy type. He made mistakes. Dangerous mistakes. And we have to notice that. Not making absurd, illogical excuses.
Chanwoo isn’t being forced at all he has a choice in all of this they have safe words he can walk out any time. He didn’t even have to agree to the whole “competition” thing in the first place everything is his choice. Yeah MD may not be 100% right for what he’s doing but don’t make it seem like Chanwoo is helpless
But he wants to continue their BDSM relationship. You can't start okay with some external factors impacting his choices. Jeez it's so hard to understand? Even a blind can see he is uncomfortable. It's doms's responsibility to know his sub's limits. There is clear power imbalance.
MD is more concerned with taking his anger on Chanwoo and teaching him some pseudo lesson than Chanwoo's wellbeing which is disturbing.
I'm so upset with the newest chapters and the comments, it's unreal.
Firstly... The pseudo plot twist. Sigh. How many times we will see the same turn of action? I'm so tired of psycho, asshole, evil exses, ex fuck buddies whatever.
People who congratulate themselves in comments that they kNeW... Don't want to upset you but some of us wanted to see something refreshing for once, not the same pseudo plot twist we have seen 10000000 times.
The people who say that Chanwoo deserved that slap. Literally wtf. It was in such a poor taste if you think about his abusive exes who used physical abuse.
Once again : Chanwoo wasn't obligated to reciprocate MD's feelings. Nature of their relationship wasn't romantic one. MD shouldn't engage in the play after rejection. He is experienced Dom, he should have known better than allowing himself into play while being upset and then taking it out on Chanwoo. It's doms's responsibility to know his sub's limits. And he nearly seriously hurt him, strangled him. It was so wrong on so many levels.
And now his revenge on Chanwoo. The manipulation and taking advantage of him when it's clear he is super uncomfortable? It's so childish. And people say he is teaching him a lesson. MD himself needs a lesson ASAP. Because he is getting really toxic and now his feelings for Chanwoo start to look questionable. Because some pity revenge and pseudo lesson is more important to him than Chanwoo's wellbeing.
And why it isn't allowed for Chanwoo to fall for someone else. Maybe he was insesitive with asking for meeting with his new "bf" but don't even compare it to MD's (who is more experienced and older man) bs.
someone is mental gymnasting here, saying that strangling play was supposed to be part of teaching Chanwoo and giving him the opportunity to say ‘no’ if it hurts him. and I know that slap was within their play but to what happened to them? for the past days will never be seen as objective of within the bounds of a FAIR and SAFE. bdsm play. also, it is not the physical pain we are talking about here. but the emotional manipulation MD is giving chanwoo. buttt let’s ignore that cause MD is a hot daddy beefcake
all this border-incel like comments that MD treated him right and he should not reject him is giving me the creeps.
you got it right sis. Please have my cookie!
Oh so MD is doing it for Chanwoo's own good. He smirked in a mean way in restaurant... Because.... *Rolling eyes*
It's clear that the main motives are grudge and revange.
Even if he wanted to help Chanwoo with limits problem this is definitely not the good way to approach the subject. It can completely backfired, especially now when Chanwoo is really uncomfortable with the play and in fragile state after being used and rejected by the other sub. He can get seriously hurt. It's really irresponsible on MD's part.
yes I agree, sum people are saying Chanwoo deserved it and are even laughing but for me it seems a lil personal and Chanwoo not wanting to say no even if he feels uncomfortable and he MD even said he can leave and by Chanwoo face he look shock and sad and decidin to go along with it