Am i the only one who don't care if granny dies?
Like if she dies Kim Dan will not need the money of the jerk and can leave his job. And that's when the seme will maybe chase him at least a little.
It will be a realisation and a liberation for Kim Dan from the seme. If he no longer needs his money, he is free to go.
He may not see his grandma as a liability but she is a liability. I feel like her death is required for Dan to have a new start. Of course he'd be crushed. He might even try to self exit because he'd think he no longer have purpose now. But his lost will be the mark of a new beginning. We'll see how the author would move forward from this
Maybe but she is the reason Dan work with the seme. He was forced to take the job because he had to pay for her hospital bills. So even if he is sad, he's going to be free to make his own choices, to live for himself only. That's the kind of thing he needs right now, the possibility to think and act only for him, and not for someone well being
I'm not saying she is accountable for that
I'm saying that even if it's NOT her fault and it's sad Kim Dan did accept this deal to pay her medical bills, it's reality, because he CHOSE to do that, he CHOSE to pay for it.
But if she dies, he will be free of this obligation, it will be like a liberation for him because he's gonna be able to make choices for himself, wihtout having to think about others. He will be free to choose what he wants to do.
This is not insane gymnastic just logic. People just have to accept that sometimes bad things can have some benefits in the end. That's how world is working.
To say that she holds responsibility for the chain of events that led to Dan’s suffering would be negligent of everything she sacrificed to give Dan many of the opportunities he has been given, in spite of how few and far between said opportunities are. She is not responsible for JK choosing to take advantage of Dan and therefore should not be considered the reason why Dan was subjected to JK’s abuse.
You are repeating yourself without reading my precedent comment. So i'm gonna explain myself again.
Kim Dan accept the deal to pay her bills, that is the reality, read the story again if you need to clear this matter. But he is accountable for that, not her. It was his choice to pay for it. But that does not mean his death can't be beneficial in some ways for him, like financially.
Ps: the fact that she sacrifices many things and JK being an asshole won't change the fact that Kim Dan did it for her and will be free to walk away from JK is she dies. You're being emotional about this when it's really just logic: No crazy bills to pay, no need to work for an asshole
And this goes back to what I said at the start, Dan doesn’t view his grandmother as a liability. Nor does he see working hard to support her an obligation. As you stated he chooses to support her and he chooses to take care of her, he doesn’t feel obliged or obligated or forced to do any of these things because he isn’t obligated to do these things, he just feels an immense sense of gratitude towards his grandmother for being the family to raise him when no one else could be. Losing her would not be like losing an anchor that’s been tying him down, nor would it be beneficial like you’re insinuating. It would be devastating and a loss far greater than any monetary gain he’d be getting from losing his grandmother because he values her more than his own success. As sgstlvr stated: taking care of his grandmother is Dan’s life purpose. Losing that would likely leave Dan feeling more depressed than relieved, unburdened, or liberated.
You’re looking at an emotional matter from a rational perspective. Dan is not calculating or logistical, he is deeply emotional and this is shown through his connection with his grandmother. I’m not claiming what you’re stating is false, just deeply insensitive and unsympathetic. To be apathetic and even encourage the death of a character for another character’s benefit with no regard for how said character will be negatively impacted is to lack a basic understanding of grief and loss.
That's where i don't agree with you. Yes she love her and feel gratitude for her, but there is no way he don't work hard for her because he feel obligated. When you love someone, you feel obligated to make everything you can to help them, especially in Kim Dan situation, when she made a lot of sacrifices for him and he only have her. Your vision of this is very naive. He don't want to be alone, she is all he have. Ofc he's gonna do everything he can to not be alone. And even if ot's sounds selfish because it is, that does not mean he don't love her. That means he is human line everyone else. Kim Dan is not all good like you can think.
Idk to how extent her death could affect him but it will for sure liberate him from this obligation.
But that’s an oxymoron. You can’t choose to do something and be obligated to do something, both cannot be mutually exclusive and remain true. The fact of the matter is Dan did choose to give himself up for the benefit of his grandmother, not because he felt an obligation to do so, but because he wanted to.
Yes you can. You can choose to pay for your grand mother's bill because you love her and discover tou have to work for an asshole to be able to pay for it and still choose to do it because you feel like you HAVE to do that for her. Because she made so many things for you and because you also don't want to be left alone.
Regardless this isn’t a discussion about the logistics of whether Dan’s feelings of indebtedness towards his grandmother was the sole defining factor in his choice to work for JK nor is it about how responsible Dan’s grandmother is for JK’s actions, but rather the difference between how you perceive the grandmother’s death and how Dan will likely perceive the death of his grandmother.
Dan will care if his grandmother dies, that much is likely in agreement between the two of us. The difference between you and Dan is that Dan has depicted no feelings of resentment or apathy towards the looming threats surrounding his grandmother’s incapacitation as opposed to the first statement in your original post “I don’t care if the grandmother dies”. The lack of coherence between your perspective and his widens the already existent gap between the comprehension of Dan’s emotions and us, the readers. We already cannot speak to exactly how Dan feels, but what we can speak to is our personal understanding of what we have read and understood.
With that being said, it does require insane mental acrobatics to insinuate Dan will feel a semblance of relief in response to his grandmother’s death when you cannot even empathize with the man.
Again, we do not agree. I will just answer to one thing
"With that being said, it does require insane mental acrobatics to insinuate Dan will feel a semblance of relief in response to his grandmother’s death when you cannot even empathize with the man"
For me again, naive logic. I experienced loss and grief in a vivid way girl, and i can tell you from my experience. No matter how much you love someone, you can feel a semblance of relief from his death. If someone you love is just suffering non stop for exemple, or if it's freeing you from a big financial responsabililty. Profondly loving a person don't mean you can't feel relief from the reality that is happening for you.
Dan love his grandmother, like her, he would do anything for her. And even if he will be sad and heartbroken, it doesnt change his reality.
The reality that her death will free him financially.
If you can understand this, let's just agree to disagree!
Sorry but the old style was so good, this one is pretty bad and look common too.
I know why they changed the artist but i can't help but be disappointed
The two styles has nothing in common
The former artist had a lot of controversy because they made inappropriate art of children so yea complain about the art style all you want but it’s better to get a conclusion to the story and not have that person working on anything ever again :)
girl let's see you draw a webtoon like that you shitting on the artist's work when you're getting it for free have some respect
I know what the former artist did. I'm just saying the new style is a bit disapponted. They take 3years to find a new artist so i was really hoping for a good style, even if it's not similar to the last one. All I want is a good style, and the old artist writing crazy shit about children does not mean I have to be all happy with a new story even if I don't like the art (personal opinion).
Felix has no charisma with in this style, and Isaac look like 80% of the bottom in BL. So it's disappointing :)
? My job is not to draw webtoon. And i'm allowed to have an opinion on the style, i don't need to be a artist to appreciate or not a draw. I did not shit on the artist work, "pretty bad" is a very polite comment, not positive but still polite. I'm not gonna force myself to like a style just because it's here for free. I don't see where i lack respect. The art is just very average (in my opinion). Nothing wrong with saying that.
Chill :)
By your logic you shouldn't dislike anything that exists ever don't like high fashion? Let me see you try and make a good collection from scratch! Don't like a story? Let me see you make one from scratch too. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and they're allowed to like or dislike things and voice such opinion. Whether you agree with it or not is your problem and even then you should know how to respond like someone that has a minimum of maturity and not like a 5 year old.
Have a nice day
all i hear is womp womp
pretty bad is not polite at all lmao what you said it's pretty bad and looks common too and you're disappointed. where is the polite in that? the art style isn't even bad it's literally just normal art
You're confusing criticism with rudeness. If you can't take a negative review and if you have the emotional capacity of a teaspoon it's none of my business
Like I said, 5 year old child.
your name is kiki shut the fuck up talking to me with your dumbass name idk why you're here dickriding so hard get OFF
no i'm just calling you out since you wanna be a liar and say that you're being very polite lmao what a hypocrite you are
No more valid arguments so you attack my name? Btw kiki is my nickname and idk why you're so mad about it. Also whose dick am I riding if I may ask? Aren't those words a little foul for a 5 year old?