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Suha doesn’t even realize that Jiwoon was keeping him hostage though, so escaping never even occurred to him

He true to his words of promise:” I promise to stay home until you’re comfortable” Suha to Jiwoon.

I need a Suha if possible.

No, that isn’t being kept as hostage. Hostage is when you kidnap someone (forced) in order to get a certain benefit/thing in exchange. Suha willingly stayed even though Jiwoon was being toxic about that situation. He could’ve left anytime but he listened to Jiwoon as he loves him and cares for Jiwoon.

True! And I feel like Jiwoon didn't *lock him up* but he was feeling and behaving strangely for sure. Like, if Jiwoon did that, Suha wouldn't be able to open the door... idk

True. Jiwoon did make Suha stay home but not locked locked, the door was unlock-able all along. Jiwoon trusts Suha, and if he didn’t trust him completely, he would’ve changed the door.

“Hostage” was a strong word, i meant more being kept isolated. But yes Jiwoon trusted Suha wouldn’t go out, but that ended up being his downfall. Thank you for your summary in an earlier comment by the way, it was extremely helpful.

Yes I agree, he is being isolated. You’re welcome! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Yeah I noticed that as well. He seems a bit lifeless but I notice he’s happy around Suha despite looking stressed and lifeless. His trauma must be severe for him to do all this and shoulder all the burden, making sure Suha isn’t involved.

I can't be angry at him anymore lol He's a treasure

I don’t think so cause I feel like the brown haired guy is just watching him, and maybe he will do something to find Suha. The one I’m worried about is the red head. I’m waiting for ch 87 to upload in raws so we can find out more.

Hi help. Im kinda confused. The one who gave piece of paper to the red head. Is that the woman jiwoon is conspiring with to bring red head down? If so why did she there with the red head? Its kinda suspish and im getting scared. K feel like something bad is gonna happen and jiwoon will lose everything. Hope not T.T

No, Jiwoon is only targeting red head mainly. The woman is the Secretary of the red head.

Oh okay thank you!

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It doesn't feel like he's only watching him. He saw Jiwoon didn't give the earphone to Suha. He knows Jiwoon is isolating him.
I fear that maybe, when everything goes down, he'll be the one to tell Suha what Jiwoon is doing, how he couldn't reach him, how Jiwoon locked him up. How it isn't healthy.
He'll listen to his friend and Suha won't stay with Jiwoon. Nobody blame Suha's friend because he's right and Jiwoon will probably suffer.

How does a person in a car from far see if Jiwoon gave it or not? It could be that Jiwoon May give it to Suha later after stopping by somewhere, realistically you won’t just get something and immediately drive some miles to give it to the other person, speaking from my own experience anyways. But this is BL so yeah you could be right, because regardless the brown haired guy is definitely suspecting Jiwoon!

I hope the brown haired guy puts some sense into Jiwoon after the plan against the red head is gone and if Jiwoon continues to isolate Suha.

I doubt Suha will just leave Jiwoon though as he loves Jiwoon a lot and communication is important. If I find out my partner has been hiding his feelings and suffering from me, I’d be mad at them for that and locking me as well but I won’t run away. I really doubt Suha would just leave cause his friend said so.

Talking it out is the best in a strong bond. I personally don’t wanna break a relationship up that’s done so much for me, I don’t wanna break a relationship up just cause I can’t handle someone else’s suffering, knowing that person who’s suffering helped me a lot, made me able to trust someone again, etc.

Jiwoon needs to listen to brown haired guy if the brown haired guy talks some sense into him, I HOPE THAT HAPPENS!! Jiwoon will suffer indeed but he’s already suffering. I just hope the brown haired guy helps out a bit.

Because the brown haired guy saw Jiwoon didn't bring the package with him when he left his car to go enter the apartment, he was about to see Suha, why not bring the package?
I mean the package had a very bright color, he could see it clearly. He knew Suha was in that apartment without any way of contacting others, therefore Jiwoon is isolating Suha!

Yes, I think you're right on that! I really hope so too, it'd be very sad if Suha is ever forced to leave fhiudfds idk, I'm just overthinking here

I don't think brown haired guy is gonna be friendly with Jiwoon :(

Sorry about the half answers, I'm feeling really bad since earlier. But it's very nice to talk to you, and have someone to talk with about this manhwa <3 I'll answer better later!

Ohh I thought Jiwoon was still at work area lmao. So yeah you’re right my bad. True, it’s obvious Jiwoon didn’t bring it because of what’s going on— we readers know.

The brown haired guy will definitely not be friendly at first; I’m sure he will understand a bit more if Jiwoon will tell him what’s going on/ why he’s doing this.

Though I’m sure it won’t be easy to just communicate that you’ve been nearly raped, drugged, had your lover nearly forced to fuck, lover blackmailed; etc.

It’s okay, I overthink too but I try to stay low key about it and add filters lol

I just realized I’m talking with you on another comment and it’s okay, answer however you like, take your time.

Why does everyone like seeing the subway sandwich so bad if you can’t have it

i’m mf dead lmao, the fact i rlly went back to see what you were talking about LOL

I don't get it?

Ohhh omg i see it now I thought it was a stain at first wtf

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Idk cause Jiwoon said he is gonna find evidences against Red head, he also stated he don’t care about the company so I’m guessing he did it for Suha since Suha has stated he wants to go back to work and lmao, everyone’s so focused on the d.

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Since Jiwoon doesn't want to involve his own secretary in this problem and he knows Suha wouldn't want to quit (or he didnt want to put him in this situation), so he didn't let Suha go to work. He's doing everything by himself. Also, the possible dangerous outcome wouldn't go to Suha too, since he wasn't even there.
Maybe I'm overthinking but it seems Jiwoon wants to lock Suha so that he doesn't get involved in this mess lol

Yes that’s what I mean, the last sentence you wrote haha.
To Jiwoon, Suha is his beloved before his Secretary. My wise words .

Yeah I read the link to the huge spoiler which you provided and thank you for that. I think he's locking him up to protect him. Remember when the red head went straight to Suha to harm him? Jiwoon doesn't want for that to happen again knowing how fuck up red head is no one is going to protect Suha not even the Grandma.

You’re right and you’re welcome! I did put that there yes, not gonna justify Jiwoon’s actions ever but there can be redemption compared to the red head tampon who doesn’t deserve redemption honestly.

Yes Red head definitely wants to harm Suha and use him as a toy again like in their high school days. He also wants to mentally hurt Jiwoon knowing he has trauma. Jiwoon’s way of protecting isn’t good but hopefully they sort it out together!

aaaah right! lol I guess Jiwoon actions seem less crazy, he's under a lot of pressure.
AHhahHAH trueeeee, Suha is his beloved before his secretary...... actually, their dynamic is so different from boss/secretary, honestly, they're at the same level, even though Suha still calls him "sir"
udhfiudsnkfnds damn his d!! lol I cant believe we witnessed that

Yeah I'm agreeing with you on that and but I think Jiwoon's action is the best option for now specially considering how attach Suha is to the grandmother. I mean he owes her of his life and education which will put Suha on a tight spot if ever he knows what was really happening and what his lover is planning to do which is to expose all the dirty deeds in the company.

I hope they will be able to talk this out clearly.

Trueeee!!

Yes I agree!

Nicely put. I didn't think much about the grandmother, but Suha owes her a lot. Jiwoon is doing it to protect him but idk Suha would have wanted that if it means it'd be bring the grandmother down.

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Don’t worry, in raws, Jiwoon stated he won’t involve the grandmother because Suha said not to involve the grandmother. :)

Thank yooou!!!

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Ow thank you, you are giving us too many spoilers and this is making me look forward to the next episodes.

Lmao you’re welcome and sure. Some of my translations wordings may not be accurate, so I’m also looking forward to the uploaded translations

I guess he also said that Suha shouldn't worry because if the president wasn't involved in the case, so she wouldn't have problems... (I used google lens)

Yeah!

It gets better. The top will apologize actually ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Yesss read the rest

thank you for the answers!

it actually does get better and he gets good development although it doesn’t justify what he did but he’s doing good so far!!

It bothers me how Suha is so unaware despite Jiwoon having his whole aura/vibe around him change to gloomy. I checked the raws and translated all, seems like Suha is just as possessive. We just need to get Jiwoon therapy for his own good, or Suha finally realizing and helping out

ahhh that’s so true! he’s very dense （￣へ￣）but I believe he will know soon! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

It's true. Jiwoon's vibe changed, he's in distress but he keeps on going what he's doing, which makes me worry. Suha maybe thinks this is only temporary.
Even though Suha kinda enjoys Jiwoon possessiveness he's also very free spirited and independent. [SPOILERR] I don't agree that Suha is possessive but I believe he loves Jiwoon a lot!

I think soo too :') I hope everything turns out ok.

Suha isn’t as possessive as Jiwoon but a bit he is judging by the raws. Of course he loves Jiwoon a lot still! And maybe he does think it’s temporary even though I haven’t seen him think about his distress image in raws at all, maybe we will get there soon.

Me too, me too... Suha probably thinks Jiwoon is just overwhelmed by what happened and he's going to snap out of it soon. He knows Jiwoon is distressed but he doesn't know how deeply this is affecting him. He doesn't know Jiwoon is lying, locking him up and he doesn't know how much Jiwoon always cared for him since he was a child, that's why hes so possessive.
I read the raws too. What makes you think Suha is possessive?

Yes agreed. but I don’t think he’s possessive because he cared for Suha during childhood. He’s possessive because of his trauma issues that causes anxiety and fear of being abandoned. Rather than possessive, Suha is insecure I guess. But not too deep so it’s okay!
Here’s what I saw in raws, link to document where I put spoilers for ch 81-85. Not completely accurate so don’t take it seriously. Though most make sense.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-LMlWIadXBLHF-kUemkKNQCu32aJjEhOm5x7VxFQxqE/mobilebasic

He's not possessive because he cared for Suha in his childhood but because Suha was apparently the only person who cared for him when he was young, he was someone who saw his struggles and talked with him like he was a normal person and not a problem. Then, since his childhood, he looked up to Suha and fell in love, he cultivated his feelings until he was an adult. Now he's possessive because he doesn't want to lose the only thing he ever wanted since he was very young. He fears being abandoned and his trauma is what makes him act so toxic.
I also think Suha was a bit insecure and not possessive. If only he knew Jiwoon is capable of [SPOILER] bring the entire company down and put redhead in jail just to protect him! Plus, every little thing Jiwoon does is for Suha but at the same time, he's messing everything up with his own actions...........
Thank yoooooou <3 I've read your document, I was great!!! Thank you very much for the time u put into it :') it helped me understand some things.

Woah! Good words!! Agreed. And you’re welcome! Suha indeed was and is the only one who saw/see his struggles :(. All I’m waiting for is red head to go down :).

Yes Suha is definitely bit insecure rather than possessive. After going through what Jiwoon went through, abandonment issues are most likely to happen. I relate to Jiwoon, but only difference is that I gave up on relationships for the most part since I have a bit of possessive nature, so I won’t hurt anyone.

I’m sure Jiwoon won’t hurt Suha. As Jiwoon said (SPOILER) in one of the raw chapters that he has to take down red head/who’s behind this company issues to protect Suha. Probably another reason why he kept Suha locked until then. Hopefully he gives Suha freedom after it’s over! Happy relationship again. They still are happy but healthy is needed too.

Jiwoon doesn’t seem to realize he’s gonna cause issues with his own actions I agree, he’s blinded by his trauma issues and company burden on him. He doesn’t even care for the company, just wants to not involve Suha. Man he’s really great of my ideal partner, not that I’d date or want one regardless, he just needs to get help for his mental issues.

I expect good improvements! :)

I also expect good improvements! :D I hope authornim doesnt break our hearts hahah

I CANNOT WAIT for readhead to go down, honestly. It's about time, he's not only toxic, abusive but he's also corrupt, he's always had everything he wanted, the family seems to be on his side in this story he will also inherit the company! It must be very hard to Jiwoon to see such awful people prospering right next to him.

True, it's hard to *not have* abandonment issues when something like that happened, I mean... he's fearing it would happen again. When he was a child, if I understood correctly, he had tendency for self mutilation (I remember two chapters gradma arriving and Jiwoon was hurt) so I think we can see the level of his trauma.

That's interesting when we relate to characters (I relate more to Suha!). I guess Jiwoon was a bit like that in the beginning of the story? He wanted Suha to only have him as a partner and would get very angry when he thought Suha was having sex with others. But Suha was ready to be only with him haha. Their dynamic is interesting. There were times when I thought Jiwoon would turn bad or real angry but then Suha kisses him and *pluft* Jiwoon is good and head over heels again. I'm sad this didnt happen much this third season.

Hopefully he gives Suha his freedom very very soon...!! Suha is living better than me but xD nothing would ever justify locking someone in... nothing. And lying straight to his face was awful too... I hope he realizes that and apologize. Or I, myself, will have trust issues with him lol

But yeah, Jiwoon is one of the most thoughtful and caring semes I've ever read, he's not only sweet but he also worries about Suha's happiness, if he's comfortable, if he's safe, he showers Suha with affection and everything he wants in return is to be chosen. Honestly, this third season is very difficult to read because he was so great and now he's even got a villain kinda aura, he's gloomy as you said. Suha used to bring the best in him but readhead had to disturb their peace and now Jiwoon made me angry af!! But yes, he needs to get help for his mental issues, definitely. And since he self reflects, I don't think thats impossible!

Jiwoon doesn’t really make me mad because I relate with him, just irritated. If anyone I should be mad at without choice or doubt, is Red head. He’s the shitload who caused this all, triggering Jiwoon’s memory, having two men nearly rape Jiwoon, drugged Jiwoon, blackmailed and forced Suha, trying to ruin their relationship once again.

I don’t relate to Suha only because I realize people’s feelings quickly, I sense when someone is sad or feeling another emotion, etc. I don’t like giving in, even to my trauma. I relate to Jiwoon because the source of my trauma is still around regardless, only difference is that I can control myself and handle standing under heavy pressure.

Suha is indeed living in luxury, lmao in the raws (SPOILER), he was making food happily , I’m like when is he gonna know he’s locked? I feel like he won’t care as much as we expected him to care a lot to the point of getting mad as a normal reaction.
I like my freedom a lot, hopefully Suha finds out. It’s just funny seeing him cook while unknowingly being locked in the house .

I’m just glad Jiwoon isn’t abusing Suha or tying him up even in the house. And if Jiwoon is still feeling a bit protective of Suha, of course it’s normal to feel the need to protect someone you dearly love after all that shit (cause of red head) happened, he should hire strong bodyguards for Suha or have him carry pepper spray, mostly recommended-self defense lessons for Suha.

I guess he sort of had his reasons for lying to Suha, out of protection I mean. He lied to Suha in the raws (SPOILER) so Suha won’t be involved in the crime of the company involvement, but Suha found out anyways I think. I hope he apologizes as you said. Both need to look out for each other in a healthy and respectful way.

Yes I’m sure it’s possible for him to recover even if the trauma won’t go away cause trauma isn’t just gonna disappear, it’s even life long.

It's not like Suha doesn't realize Jiwoon's emotions, the very first chapter of the third season was Suha thinking to himself how Jiwoon had been through a lot lately, he thought to himself how Jiwoon seems stuck in his past (which is true).

He's patient with him. But still, he doesn't do (at least immediately) exactly what Jiwoon wants him to do because he doesn't feel the need. In this matter, Suha is right, even if someone is feeling in a certain way, it shouldn't dictate your own actions and wants. Suha didn't see the problem of having lunch with secretary Yoon and he went out, no problem in that. Suha simply wanted to take his stuff on his own appartment, what harm would that cause? In his head, none.

He knows Jiwoon is going through a hard time, thats why he stayed on his house and nearly stopped his own work and his life. In another situation I doubt he ever would, knowing he's so independent. I "relate" to Suha (I like him more is what I mean) because he's a worker hahahaha and even though he's been hurt like hell, he didnt close his heart, he speaks frankly, he's free spirited, kind, independent and strong!!

He knows there aren't many things to do in this case and he doesn't know the extent of Jiwoon's trauma and emotions but he does realize them. But I also find it strange there arent many panels of him worrying about Jiwoon but many panels of him enjoying his company and sex. But again Jiwoon also doesn't open up much to his problems. Suha doesn't see much of his red flags because it's hard when.... you're in love. And he really doesn't know the extent of the problem, and man, he's really in love LOL he's infatuated, and he trusts Jiwoon. I hope Jiwoon doesn't hurt him.

I'm sorry to hear about your trauma, I hope you recover more and more. And if you want, you can also message anytime, even about the most random things.

Woah nicely put! I agree. Hopefully Suha knows more about Jiwoon’s trauma/issues. I’m sure Jiwoon won’t hurt him, at least I hope so. They both genuinely love each other.

Suha truly is a great affectionate person. I just hope he defends himself more from that red head dude like he did by biting that mtf. Don’t want the red head causing any more problems. As I’ve said, Jiwoon should realize his way of protecting isn’t good or gonna last forever (since plot has to move), I’m sure he will come to realization.

Hope both Suha and jiwoon talk it out.

And thank you!

Yes, yes! Let's hope for the best!!!!! :)