"when did joowon ever did something Haesoo didn't want him to?" once i read that i was like okay thanks for proving once again that the majority of joowon stans dont even read the story but look at the pretty art. that was the whackest shit i ever saw man, especially the arguments against Taku made me chuckle
"when did joowon ever did something Haesoo didn't want him to?" once i read that i was like okay thanks for proving once again that the majority of joowon stans dont even read the story but look at the pretty a... BlubbDia
But the facts about taku are still true... He did kinda force himself between them and isn't that nice in the next chapter. Joowon isn't perfect but neither is Taku. Have you skipped all the inner monologues Taku had at the beginning? He was also manipulative. Maybe he fell in love later but he isn't that innocent either. Joowon has stepped back. Which I think is a good decision. I think Taku should do the same thing for a while. I don't hate any of them but all of them just feel wrong together at the moment.
hooo ok. lemme get in on this. sorry if it doesnt make sense im not the best at typing out my thoughts/arguments as a person on “takus side” or whatever yall wanna call it, i do admit she has some good points. taku was pretty complicated and manipulative at the beginning. HOWEVER, i feel like you joowon stans are always completely disregarding anything joowon did, like in the tiktok. i feel like the majority of taku people see and recognize what takus done, while joowon stans think joowon is “aww pure babey he only want a chance :’(“ and taku is some evil man. taku isnt 100% bad. he has some faults, ill admit, but hes realistic with his love. in the same way, joowon has done stuff that doesnt make him the best person in the world (him going over to takus and picking a fight is an example. and wasnt he a bit too possessive when he found out haesoo was the model? its his body, he can do whatever he wants so he shouldnt have reacted like that. there were a couple of other situations that you cant deny, but my memory is failing me rn lol) with their parents marriage situation, their past complications, haesoo repeatedly refusing joowon, and just the mistakes and unnamed relationship that has happened between them, i really just dont think joowon is the better match for haesoo. not that i hate joowon! i just think its better for the both of them if they dont get involved with each other anymore. haesoo wants to let go, he NEEDS to let go of whatever happened between them, and i think yall are completely ignoring that. yall are thinking only about what joowon wants when haesoo should be your main focus. even as a taku stan, i think haesoo just needs “time alone” in a way to clear his thoughts. i personally feel like hes shifting to taku (which he should..) but again i wouldnt mind if doesnt choose anyone if he knows itll make him happy
"when did joowon ever did something Haesoo didn't want him to?" once i read that i was like okay thanks for proving once again that the majority of joowon stans dont even read the story but look at the pretty a... BlubbDia
Damn, I like Joowon a lot but that video was not it lool. The one thing I have to agree with most of Taku's stans is that Joowon in the first season and part of the second was awful. Self-centered, egocentric, blinded by his pride and confidence that Haesoo would never leave him because nobody can match him up. He grew up to like the "I know you can't do it" relationship he had with Haesoo but also expected to have more of him. Always contradicting himself. The stickiest part was that Haesoo always said yes because he didn't want to lose. So of course, that wasn't normal at all when both of them were blaming each other for the way they were acting (Joowon: You made me like this / Haesoo: I want to hurt you as much as you hurt me). They were wrong but at the time, they were expecting to be like this.
Of course, all of that changed in the car scene. Now, that chapter was the epidemy of Joowon's selfishness and blindness out of the story so when I saw Haesoo for the first time saying "No" I was super happy. For the first time, Joowon had to a step back to say "This is how we always have been" (Chapter 31)" ... So why Haesoo rejected me?" (That part was my analysis). I believe that Joowon's arc is based on how this man-child had to lose the one person he loved for him to see why the relationship was hurting them. He still is childish because it hasn't a long time since everything went down but him respecting Haesoo's decision says a lot. He still misses him but for the first time, Joowon is starting to see the whole picture: Haesoo's reputation, Haesoo's will, Haesoo's wellness. Joowon losing Haesoo was necessary.
Now, for Taku's part... Sorry, I don't trust him lmao. The way he dug himself into the relationship was super weird for me and in recent chapters, Taku's thoughts and words sometimes don't match. "If I can win over him, at least I want you to feel bad" (Wtf, Chapter 66), the part when he was testing Haesoo with the possible sex tape scandal (Why? Even Haesoo was mad) and also begging for a relationship after hearing that Haesoo doesn't need that at the moment (also with him still feeling confused about his feelings about Joowon)... And he even invites him after he was just thinking: "I want to fill the void he left on you and later push him aside as soon as I can" Like-if he is feeling that way, why he invited him? I just think he is selfish and really persuasive but Taku even accepts that part of him.
Damn, I like Joowon a lot but that video was not it lool. The one thing I have to agree with most of Taku's stans is that Joowon in the first season and part of the second was awful. Self-centered, egocentric, ... SangtaeHappiness
You say that you only agree on one thing that Taku stans say but you actually pointed some things out that not even T stans are aware of xD Anyways I appreciate your thoughts on Joowon, its always nice to see someone liking him without being blinded af. That video was rly awful.
About the taku topic: You seem to completely misunderstand something. The one Taku wants to push away is Joowon, who hurt Haesoo. I'm not sure what you meant by 'inviting'. Inviting to where? His exhibition? Taku send Joowon an invitation to his exhibition out of politeness, since they both worked together. Taku wanting to push Joowon away may be wrong, but its understandable, because he's jealous and Haesoo is his first love. And tbh I find it a shame that you have little to no empathy with Taku. You say you don't trust Taku but do you really think any of the three MCs are not trust-worthy? The author loves all of them a lot, specifically Taku. All characters have their flaws but they're still good people, who make bad decisions and say the wrong things every now and then, Thats what makes them so realistic. Considering how special Haesoo is to Taku (and the fact that he's his first love), its understandably that he's being greedy and selfish. He's aware of that and let Haesoo know too. He' a person who struggles with emotions, so its kinda rude to judge them like you do. But thats just my opinion
You say that you only agree on one thing that Taku stans say but you actually pointed some things out that not even T stans are aware of xD Anyways I appreciate your thoughts on Joowon, its always nice to see s... BlubbDia
1) I- This pandemic got me re-reading this whole thing HAHAHA so yes, I outsell the analysis of Joowon as a character. My master's degree. Also, I have seen a lot of your comments here and even the ones that I don't agree with, there were pretty constructive. Thanks for that... Now, let's disagree again.
2) There was a lot of "him" and "you" in his thought process for me to misunderstand something. If "I want to burrow the void he (Joowon) left on you (Haesoo) and later push him (Joowon) aside as soon as I can" is not a misunderstanding, then why this one is? For me, it was very clear who has "him" and "you". And even if I am wrong, it's not up to him to decide that.
3) Yes, I was talking about the exhibition. I personally don't see the need for that nor why you are justifying this as politeness. Everyone in that workroom saw they didn't like each other and it's super bizarre to go to see photos of your ex-partner that were taken by the guy he is now seeing. And it's just too soon to pretend it won't affect anybody. The photos happened when Joowon had no idea what was going on between them but now he knows after the break up with Haesoo and Taku's insinuation that other things happened behind the scenes of the photoshoot. It's just a weird scenario for the three of them in my opinion.
4) It's true that I am not that connected to Taku, his story doesn't seem as interesting to me when I compared to Haesoo and Joowon. When I say that I don't trust him is that I don't think I am seeing his whole character. Nobody here is a saint but I haven't seen enough of him before Haesoo for me to feel excited about him finding his first love. Maybe with this season. I mean, I like Joowon despite all the previous crap so I am sure will eventually like Taku more LMAO. Even if I don't like Taku as much as other people, I don't wish him bad either. Don't worry, I stan Yeongha and every character of the story (Not Leo tho)
5) What-- I wrote two paragraphs on Joowon being a self-centered, egocentric, blinded asshole LMAO I was ruder to him than Taku. But I understand your point. Believe me. Protecting the boys.
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Worst decision of my life lol
"when did joowon ever did something Haesoo didn't want him to?" once i read that i was like okay thanks for proving once again that the majority of joowon stans dont even read the story but look at the pretty art. that was the whackest shit i ever saw man, especially the arguments against Taku made me chuckle
But the facts about taku are still true... He did kinda force himself between them and isn't that nice in the next chapter. Joowon isn't perfect but neither is Taku. Have you skipped all the inner monologues Taku had at the beginning? He was also manipulative. Maybe he fell in love later but he isn't that innocent either. Joowon has stepped back. Which I think is a good decision. I think Taku should do the same thing for a while. I don't hate any of them but all of them just feel wrong together at the moment.
i lost so many time with that trash ╥﹏╥#-.-)
hooo ok. lemme get in on this. sorry if it doesnt make sense im not the best at typing out my thoughts/arguments
as a person on “takus side” or whatever yall wanna call it, i do admit she has some good points. taku was pretty complicated and manipulative at the beginning. HOWEVER, i feel like you joowon stans are always completely disregarding anything joowon did, like in the tiktok. i feel like the majority of taku people see and recognize what takus done, while joowon stans think joowon is “aww pure babey he only want a chance :’(“ and taku is some evil man. taku isnt 100% bad. he has some faults, ill admit, but hes realistic with his love. in the same way, joowon has done stuff that doesnt make him the best person in the world (him going over to takus and picking a fight is an example. and wasnt he a bit too possessive when he found out haesoo was the model? its his body, he can do whatever he wants so he shouldnt have reacted like that. there were a couple of other situations that you cant deny, but my memory is failing me rn lol)
with their parents marriage situation, their past complications, haesoo repeatedly refusing joowon, and just the mistakes and unnamed relationship that has happened between them, i really just dont think joowon is the better match for haesoo. not that i hate joowon! i just think its better for the both of them if they dont get involved with each other anymore. haesoo wants to let go, he NEEDS to let go of whatever happened between them, and i think yall are completely ignoring that. yall are thinking only about what joowon wants when haesoo should be your main focus.
even as a taku stan, i think haesoo just needs “time alone” in a way to clear his thoughts. i personally feel like hes shifting to taku (which he should..) but again i wouldnt mind if doesnt choose anyone if he knows itll make him happy
Damn, I like Joowon a lot but that video was not it lool. The one thing I have to agree with most of Taku's stans is that Joowon in the first season and part of the second was awful. Self-centered, egocentric, blinded by his pride and confidence that Haesoo would never leave him because nobody can match him up. He grew up to like the "I know you can't do it" relationship he had with Haesoo but also expected to have more of him. Always contradicting himself. The stickiest part was that Haesoo always said yes because he didn't want to lose. So of course, that wasn't normal at all when both of them were blaming each other for the way they were acting (Joowon: You made me like this / Haesoo: I want to hurt you as much as you hurt me). They were wrong but at the time, they were expecting to be like this.
Of course, all of that changed in the car scene. Now, that chapter was the epidemy of Joowon's selfishness and blindness out of the story so when I saw Haesoo for the first time saying "No" I was super happy. For the first time, Joowon had to a step back to say "This is how we always have been" (Chapter 31)" ... So why Haesoo rejected me?" (That part was my analysis). I believe that Joowon's arc is based on how this man-child had to lose the one person he loved for him to see why the relationship was hurting them. He still is childish because it hasn't a long time since everything went down but him respecting Haesoo's decision says a lot. He still misses him but for the first time, Joowon is starting to see the whole picture: Haesoo's reputation, Haesoo's will, Haesoo's wellness. Joowon losing Haesoo was necessary.
Now, for Taku's part... Sorry, I don't trust him lmao. The way he dug himself into the relationship was super weird for me and in recent chapters, Taku's thoughts and words sometimes don't match. "If I can win over him, at least I want you to feel bad" (Wtf, Chapter 66), the part when he was testing Haesoo with the possible sex tape scandal (Why? Even Haesoo was mad) and also begging for a relationship after hearing that Haesoo doesn't need that at the moment (also with him still feeling confused about his feelings about Joowon)... And he even invites him after he was just thinking: "I want to fill the void he left on you and later push him aside as soon as I can" Like-if he is feeling that way, why he invited him? I just think he is selfish and really persuasive but Taku even accepts that part of him.
You say that you only agree on one thing that Taku stans say but you actually pointed some things out that not even T stans are aware of xD Anyways I appreciate your thoughts on Joowon, its always nice to see someone liking him without being blinded af. That video was rly awful.
About the taku topic: You seem to completely misunderstand something. The one Taku wants to push away is Joowon, who hurt Haesoo. I'm not sure what you meant by 'inviting'. Inviting to where? His exhibition? Taku send Joowon an invitation to his exhibition out of politeness, since they both worked together.
Taku wanting to push Joowon away may be wrong, but its understandable, because he's jealous and Haesoo is his first love. And tbh I find it a shame that you have little to no empathy with Taku. You say you don't trust Taku but do you really think any of the three MCs are not trust-worthy? The author loves all of them a lot, specifically Taku. All characters have their flaws but they're still good people, who make bad decisions and say the wrong things every now and then, Thats what makes them so realistic.
Considering how special Haesoo is to Taku (and the fact that he's his first love), its understandably that he's being greedy and selfish. He's aware of that and let Haesoo know too. He' a person who struggles with emotions, so its kinda rude to judge them like you do. But thats just my opinion
1) I- This pandemic got me re-reading this whole thing HAHAHA so yes, I outsell the analysis of Joowon as a character. My master's degree. Also, I have seen a lot of your comments here and even the ones that I don't agree with, there were pretty constructive. Thanks for that... Now, let's disagree again.
2) There was a lot of "him" and "you" in his thought process for me to misunderstand something. If "I want to burrow the void he (Joowon) left on you (Haesoo) and later push him (Joowon) aside as soon as I can" is not a misunderstanding, then why this one is? For me, it was very clear who has "him" and "you". And even if I am wrong, it's not up to him to decide that.
3) Yes, I was talking about the exhibition. I personally don't see the need for that nor why you are justifying this as politeness. Everyone in that workroom saw they didn't like each other and it's super bizarre to go to see photos of your ex-partner that were taken by the guy he is now seeing. And it's just too soon to pretend it won't affect anybody. The photos happened when Joowon had no idea what was going on between them but now he knows after the break up with Haesoo and Taku's insinuation that other things happened behind the scenes of the photoshoot. It's just a weird scenario for the three of them in my opinion.
4) It's true that I am not that connected to Taku, his story doesn't seem as interesting to me when I compared to Haesoo and Joowon. When I say that I don't trust him is that I don't think I am seeing his whole character. Nobody here is a saint but I haven't seen enough of him before Haesoo for me to feel excited about him finding his first love. Maybe with this season. I mean, I like Joowon despite all the previous crap so I am sure will eventually like Taku more LMAO. Even if I don't like Taku as much as other people, I don't wish him bad either. Don't worry, I stan Yeongha and every character of the story (Not Leo tho)
5) What-- I wrote two paragraphs on Joowon being a self-centered, egocentric, blinded asshole LMAO I was ruder to him than Taku. But I understand your point. Believe me. Protecting the boys.