I think people are forgetting she didn't suggest that the duke pretend to be Etoile's lover ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ FL originally wanted to get Etoile and Wright closer but instead the duke had to butt in and do this whole "I'll make you jealous" shenanigans and honestly tho it kinda annoyed me because why would you want to see your lover suffer while watching you hold another in your arms? #-.-)
Um.. I'm not quite clear how? Sorry this might be my lack of memory, But in chapter 11 he let her sleep when she was too drunk to see straight and waited until she slept a while and then sobered up, at least to that she knew who was in front of her?? Also she confessed first?? And then he kissed her which was reciprocated??? So???
Yes but she also said that she didn't ask Zeronis because he's not as sweet as Wright. Since the duke wanted to do it the extreme while the FL didn't want to be harsh on the guy. Also when the duke said "So you want an easy going man that follows your word without question?" She responded with " That's it... "(I could be over thinking this and interrupting the response as her agreeing with Zeronis statement.) Even the FL knew that she made a mistake because at this point we all should know that the duke gets easily jealous and is petty. Even so Wright wouldn't have been the fake lover in the beginning since he busy or was doing something else, in chapter 30 Wright said "Sorry for not keeping my promise"
You just proved my point? Lmao she didn't ask him to be the fake lover period The duke butted in even tho he wasn't the one she was asking for because her original plan was to "hit two birds with one stone" which was to get rid of the stalker AND make Etoile and Wright close so that Etoile wouldn't end up with the duke
He only butted in because Wright couldn't make it other than that this whole plan happened because of the FL, tbh she should've went with the duke's plan(kinda went with his plan in chapter 30 well a nicer version of it when she exposed the stalker in front of everyone at the party) in the first place and I also think that she doesn't fully believes in the duke's love for her, Also the FL doesn't believe in Etoile since the FL is trying to make her date someone (Wright). In chapter 27 or 28 you can tell that Etoile is not with the plan by the expression she makes at the FL when she hears the plan.To sum it all up I feel like you should kinda hate the FL too because she makes schemes without considering other people feelings. Time and time again not only her plan fails sometimes it hurts her and the people around her. I kinda understand Zeronis and high key I would've been petty if my significant other compared me to another person because I don't have that quality she/he have. I'm just mad at the FL because she everything like a game she still believes that the novel is the same when she changed it herself once the duke fell in love with her. The point I was trying make was that you can't just blame the duke it goes both ways.
While Ripley does make bad decisions, I think this was the dukes fault for insisting. She probably wouldn't have had him pretend to be Etoile's lover of he didn't insist. She probably would have just cane up with a new plan. Etoile would have been fine with the plan if it was actually Wright like planned. They definitely should have just exposed the dude and set him straight but I guess the story needs more drama (▰˘◡˘▰). I don't really like Ripley or Zeronis. He did rape her and then tried to force her into marriage and while I totally supported her trying to get out no matter what she is pretty selfish. Honestly, I think their relationship is toxic but the story is entertaining.
You summarized everything I wanted to say ヾ(☆▽☆)
I never said I liked the FL but I just don't like the ML more. The FL made some reckless decisions by comparing the duke to Wright however it's very childish how the Duke treated her while she visited his home. She called her a mere guest and pushed her out (oh how sweet must that have felt to have your lover push you out of the room because you were "a mere guest" and told you that he "spent too much time alone with you who isn't his lover") Oh how sweet must it have felt to have people gossip behind your back because your fiance decided to be an asshole and insisted on pretending to be Etoile's fake lover to prove he's "just as gentle as Wright." The FL is too stupid she can just say to the Duke that she doesn't like the idea, that she had a plan to get Wright and Etoile closer, and the whole thing would have just ended?
Tldr; I don't like the both of them but I dislike the Duke more.
*sigh* here we go again. People really should read the novel(despite not having stellar translation, and some chapters aren't being translated), because the webtoon skipped some of the parts: for example-- Where Etoire in the novel was the one who proposed to the duke, where Ripley also thought that the duke was a better choice(of course she was hesitant of using the duke because they're together). The duke refused twice. The only reason why he accepted because... yes, he's that petty and childish when Ripley unconsciously remark something favourable of Wright. The webtoon follows the novel 100%.
And yeah... The duke wasn't a really great ML. He will try to get Ripley in whatever means necessary. He did forced himself on her and knows about it, also knows that Ripley doesn't want the marriage at first but he doesn't care. The premise of his character in the novel that Ripley transmigrated into is that he's scarily obsessive, and cruel.
HOWEVER, there was also some differences being made between the duke in the novel and the duke that Ripley knows(hence why she sometimes compare the character/situation in the novel and the one she's facing now). When the plot progresses, the duke will have his own growth, and so does Ripley(kinda, because she still retains some of her airheaded-ness).
This story is mostly fluff/light hearted. Again, if anyone is expecting more drama(I've seen a lot of people expecting it lol) then cease those expectations immediately. There's drama yes, but not drawn out.
That's why I'm sticking around. I want to see the character development of both characters. I didn't read the novel and based all my opinions on the webtoon and the available chapters found here. Not everyone reads the novel ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ If in the novel Etoile was the one that suggested it and the duke refused the proposal twice, that would make a big difference and therefore my opinion would be different as well. You didn't have to go "*sigh* here we go again" I'm sorry I'm ignorant of how different the webtoon is from the novel
Wouldn't it make a difference though? The duke wouldn't be forcing himself in that scenario. That's if, we were reading the novel. However as I've stated, I base my opinions on what happened in the Webtoon. He's annoying in the webtoon for what he did. He hasn't gone through his character development yet.
I've been basing my opinion on what ive read and seen here. I don't see how it would make a difference tho since they said the mention follows the novel 100%. The duke still forced himself on Ripley and tried to force marriage onto her. And Ripley is still pretty insensitive at times.
The only thing that really changes is this scenario but not by a lot. Etoile asks the Duke which I think makes her a bad friend. Ripley suggests the Duke it because he would be the better choice. The duke does refuse but still does it out of pettiness. That's about it. Overall, rhis just says they all suck.
The webtoon unfortunately didn't really portray the novel well. Etoire was the one that asked but she's doing it for Ripley(because the duke asked and silence ensue, tbh it was pretty funny). The novel was being portrayed in a light-hearted fashion(mostly because the story is being narrated and viewed from Ripley's POV).
Anyways, I can understand that some people don't like the main characters. They're obviously really flawed, particularly Ripley since she's the MC and she doesn't really possessed the typical MC-buff(lol). But well since this is the typical rom-com genre, if this is your thing then I hope you'd stay for the ride. And if it wasn't, then hopefully you'll find other webtoon that can satisfy you.
? I dont really get what you're saying is the reason Etoile asked. Personally I think the Duke has more flaws than Ripley but both have become pretty unlikable. I never said I planned on dropping since the story feels like its basically over now. It's seems like its only shenanigans now but I never intended to drop it depsite my dislike of the characters.
Y'all arguing that traveller is a minor and justify that argument by saying that even tho he fell asleep for 500 years he still has a mind of a minor. Well who said the traveller was a minor before falling into deep slumber?? It's in the lore: the twins travelled through countless of worlds before reaching teyvat
Im sorry i meant to upvote ( T﹏T )
This - it's also the reason why they often have a sarcastic reaction whenever they get recommended non-alcoholic drinks xD