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I likeed your nitpicking

Honestly, it's so fucking ridiculous to call dibs, not update then when someone else puts up their own translation, they're called thieves.


I'm just as angry with translators who hoard as much mangas as they can which just adds to their workload. Resulting in multiple dropped series when they get overwhelmened because of their shitty decision making. Other translators could've have picked those series up which would result in faster translations but nooo, translators have to fucking translate every single shit they fucking find, forgetting about other series they still have to work on.



God I'm sorry for the rant but I'm so angry about this.

i dont understand why people disliked the comment? she's right seme is down to trash level and the only reason why everyone likes him is his looks imo. i hope there's character development though

I disagree because the seme is unpredictable. What was his reason for holding the painter? What does he plan do to do next?! I’m just so excited!! ヾ(☆▽☆)

valid valid but i dont see it that way rip

We all see it differently

he didn't 'hold' him. he raped him

It wasn’t rape. When he was drunk there was consent.

are you really American?! if he was drunk and thinking it was sir inhun then it was even worse. I'm ashamed someone from the us doesn't understand that when someone is drunk, they don't have their full mind and therefore cant consent. youre either a 10yo too young to understand our laws or a blooming i3i3! it is rape even if nakyums body responds. it is rape even if nakyum cums.he didnt know who he was having sex with or that he was having sex and never consented, and was so black out drunk he doesn't even remember it happening.what part of any of that makes this a love story?????!!!!!

Imagine getting mad over a manga..? If you don’t like it move on! Like stop putting your negative feelings onto others bruh. We all have different views, so what’s the point of throwing a bitch fit over the internet just because someone doesn’t agree. Lmao like come on ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Also, he consented to having sex with sir jung not the lead who took advantage of the situation.

The person was just saying that the artist did not have the capacity to consent, seeing as he was blind drunk to the extent he though the lord was his tutor.

well youre bitching cause I bitched. and excuse me but here in the us were taught being drunk doesn't mean consent. so excuse me if I was shocked you didn't understand that

If you're talking about modern culture, yes, but this is accurate to history. Servants and slaves were considered sub-human to nobles. This is true in almost every country in the world -- the slaves of Egypt, the serfs of Europe, and so on.

Go back just a 150 years in Japan and a samurai could kill a peasant and no one would think twice unless that person belonged to a noble. Then it was just "property damage" not murder.

History is full of cruelty and injustice. Even other countries with caste systems and elites this still goes on. Wealthy people often get away with crimes that normal people can't.

I understand more when people complain that maybe rape shouldn't be glorified, but I'm very glad that the author is being very honest and factual to how it was for servants and slaves of that time period in Korea. That is not something that should be glossed over and rewritten.

If anything the author lessens it. It was actually a lot worse than even what this manwah depicts. Peasants were not seen as people at all by the nobles. They could be disposed of at a whim.

I didn’t bitch
All I said was I didn’t agree that’s all but what you’re doing here is bitching and not telling it go like a 10 year old like bruh move on fr :/
Seems you got nothing better to do then fight with a kid over the internet about a manga that gets so many different opinions everyday. I don’t know who is more of an adult right now

I know but what he or she meant to say doesn’t really matter since this person is obviously trying to start shit over a disagreement. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

actually I'm not. its not about the manga either,really.its more that as a fellow American I don't understand why you think someone on the receiving end of sex who is drunk can give consent.that goes against the fundamentals of what were taught.that isn't a matter of disagreement.its a date rape charge

Ummmmmm... this got interesting quickly.


I'm fine with dislikes. Any time you criticize a manga in the comments, you're going to get that. I'm more lamenting that the art is so beautiful and I desperately want to like this story, but I don't.

And about whether it's rape or not... 100% it is, but that's not really the point.

the art is crazy beautiful. and even though its following the usual rape trope, seungho is interesting. and the raws suggest a change in things to come. I really do wanna see an arc where he becomes a redeemable and respectful man who is aware he did wrong.but its so frustrating people don't think its rape. everyone to their own opinion, and it doesn't mean theyd feel that way in a real life situation. but as a woman, and as someone who has experienced things, I wanna scream when I know how were taught in America and people disregard it.

Then why do you continue? It’s my choice to like it or not :/

Facts!

IKR, people are coming at me, because I'm discussing how BJ Alex portrays crimes and a toxic relationship... "but he's hot, so he can't be a rapist" omfg.

did you read where I said its not about the manga anymore?? I don't know what morals you were taught, but I know what were taught in America, which is where it shows youre from. and we very implicitly are taught a drunken state doesn't give consent, especially when said party is hallucinating its someone else. I really don't care what you read so don't poor pity me, shes picking on me. that scene is very clearly sex without consent. even if seungho handled him carefully, or nakyum got an erection and came. I don't know if youre stubborn or don't understand what consent is. I don't know where other readers are from and what theyre taught. but I know what were taught as americans to fight against our country having a rape culture. and if you want to debate seunghos ability to understand consent, go on toonkor, find potn, and look at the imagery for the last chapter they uploaded. they are complex characters and I am sticking with it. for someone who can draw so beautifully, especially expressions, I'm really hoping, that somehow the artist pulls it all together so seungho becomes redeemable and understanding and poor nakyum gets a happy ending. even if its with seungho, so long as he knows better at the end.

yeah b alex is a world away from potn. but there is a big difference between alex (been a while so I cant remember real name), and seungho. I read yaoi knowing there very possibly could be a rape trope. unfortunately it probably occurs more in the yaoi genre than others because people still don't think a man can become as impacted from rape or assault as women.but by reading its not sanctioning rape or thinking its normal for a person to go off with their attacker. which unfortunately a lot of adult rships where theres physical assault theres also sexual abuse. we also don't know the ages, the morals theyre taught, or the laws of the country of the person were disagreeing with. idk. I don't really like webtoons. ive been reading yaoi for about 8 yrs so ive pretty much worked my way thru most that appeal to me. Im also a binge reader. read b alex after it was finished in 2 days. so the idea of waiting for a webtoon to take maybe 2 yrs to finish is frustrating, but its what theyre pushing. so I re read older ones or if the yaoi has been dark, I have several authors who write yaoi but do it very much tongue in cheek. what worries me is not what someone chooses to read or whether they liked it. its that looking at it from a human standpoint that they refuse to admit that theres blatant f@@@ery that has happened. makes me wonder if they have the same skewed view in real life. but yaoi is mostly dramatic. so unfortunately the toxicity and abuse levels can run high.

Agree. I think we all know that yaoi is often complicit in normalising sexual crimes, but as readers we should at least be able to discern that we are reading fictional portrayals of abuse, and how this has been portrayed awfully. There is a lot of double standards, people will forgive and forget (or not even recognise abuse) if the criminal is billed as the love interest, and yet if the "bad guy" character does the exact same, then he is slated.
Recently, there has been a discussion, over consent, when characters are basically black out drunk, saying that because the character expressed interest in the other mc previously, well it can't be rape! Maybe people would change their mind, if publishers like lezhin had a more representative method of disclaiming crimes, and actually show that not only webtoons billed as horror, psychological etc are fitting of a warning, meaning people can have informed consent as to weather they want to read a "romance" webtoon, that depicts such crimes.

Same here and I'm pretty sure I've seen a bunch