Srsly, this chapter was wild. Really drove it in that both male leads are trash.
They both spoke about Yoon like he wasn’t even there. Bless Yoon for speaking up on how he’s not an object, and they’re talking about his like a piece of trash to pick up and throw at any given time. Really shows his development and self-esteem has come a long way.
I’m glad Kwon gave Taejoo a reality check, cause that was sorely needed. Super satisfying seeing that, but it was ruined the moment Kwon made it about himself. That last comment, on how not everyone is waiting around, that’s fucked up. That’s so fucked up to say. That was said purposefully, with the intention to hurt Yoon and fuck up with his feelings. You just guilted him , and gaslit him. Why can’t you wait for him? You know how his previous relationship went, why can’t you be the one to wait for him? What’s the problem with that? Better yet, why can’t you state your feelings for Yoon you piece of shit?!
Why does Yoon need to state his feelings first? Is it cause your pride doesn’t allow you to? Bc you set up the relationship with Yoon to have no emotional ties, and here you are falling for him, but you don’t want to be the one to lose face here and admit you messed up.
Fuck both guys. They both suck. Taejoo made this all about him by stating ‘you don’t know my pain’ stfu dude all you care about is your feelings and not Yoon’s. Fuck off both of you. I can give Yoon a better happy ending istg
Really just wanna see someone’s take on it other than ‘he’s fucked up’ like yea he is, but can we talk about his personality and motive?
Like I’m kinda confused about his character. He says he hates the uke, and wants to kill both him and Han Minwoo, but I don’t think it’s actual hate? Like I think he fell for the uke, bc the uke was always kind to him and giving him stuff (even tho we know that the uke seems to be helping him only bc he sees the seme as worthless and feels happy to help a dog). So when he saw the uke was having sex with Han Minwoo, it betrayed the seme’s pure feelings for the uke? That’s why he’s so obsessed with him and mad at him for that betrayal. That’s what I’m guessing at least.
Can I see some other opinions? I’d like to know what other ppl think about the seme’s motives and why he’s obsessed with the uke. I think it’s weird that the roommate seme seems to just suddenly turn into this yandere character, since in the flashbacks, it doesn’t seem like he’s a bad guy. Do you guys think he always knew the uke was insincere to him, but still fell for him? Does the seme even really like the uke?
My thought is basically the same but to add onto the idea, I think he wants the uke to suffer as much as he did cuz in one of the panels, the seme mentioned smtg along the lines of how the uke "doesn't understand real pain" so I'm guessing he's just hurting him becuz of the pain he felt (by pain, I mean the feeling of "betrayal" or "jealousy" and shit idk)
And for his motive, I think he's using both manipulation and confusion onto the uke to somewhat make him befuddled onto the thought of whether the seme is being genuine about anything he says or not and shittt :P
I think the seme's motives are purely to feel superior. I highly doubt he ever appreciated the uke's actions or thought they were sincere (shown by the washing detergent) and that's where his feelings come from - the enjoyment of blackmailing and dragging down someone rich who looks down on him - making him apologise, cry, beg etc. His feelings probably manifested from the sex video as like he says he likes seeing someone as pretty and clean like him reduced to a mess which purely feeds his feelings of control. The jealousy is probably more like a loss of ownership than sincere feelings. But the author makes it pretty ambigious when his feelings actually originated - he says he put the camera in for theft but that's most definitely a lie, so was he always that yandere stalker or was he always just planning to find blackmail without the feelings involved bc he felt looked down on??
I agree with you, definitely wants to see the uke struggle and be in pain prob as revenge for betraying his pure feelings? I also think think he gets off to the uke being under his control and suffering (since he had no problem sexually assaulting the uke while the uke was crying out and saying no) so maybe it’s also a superiority thing? Then again, he seems to care about the uke when he got sick and stuff, so idk this seme’s motives seem all over the place
THIS IS AN INTERESTING TAKE! Yea it’s really weird how he just had that camera, why did he put it there in the first place (assuming that he lied about the theft)? But I like this idea too, that he always just wanted to feel superior, and it aligns with his actions and behaviour thus far, with the exception being when he took care of the uke (while uke was sick/beat up). Perhaps that was also him feeling satisfaction? Like helping the uke made him feel good, cause the uke had to rely on the seme and was dependent on him, so that to makes the uke ‘under his control’ and thus the seme is still superior/dominant in the relationship. I also like how you connected this superiority to the sex video, I can definitely see the connection. Thanks for this insight!
Ginga and Kou clearly have a relationship going on where Ginga bottoms. I basically read this for the like crumbs of Kou x Ginga I find. Don’t get me wrong, I love the 3P, but it feels like Yuu likes Kou more? Idk, Ginga doesn’t get nearly enough screen time with Yuu like Kou does, and Kou and Yuu seem to be all over each other at any moment of the day. Whereas it’s different with Ginga. Makes me feel sad for him.
Apparently there’s a side story with Kou x Ginga so hopefully someone translates that to English.
I don't think they have sex now (just the two of them) but they definitely had a fling in the past. If they're having sex without Yuuzen knowledge it won't be nice, even if he accepts it I won't be able to like it... It's so hard to find a poly relationship story where everyone likes each other equally and are honest about it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Hmm I don’t really get what’s the problem here^^
It’s extremely rare to have two seme’s that are also intimate in a poly relationship with an Uke. Suddenly it’s concerning that they’re more intimate than normal other 2 seme+1 uke stories? In my opinion I don’t mind them liking each other and in fact welcome it. I get the whole “not wanting kou and ginga to be doing it alone without the knowledge of yuu” it makes sense. However I don’t see anything wrong with them being intimate with each other as well. I’m sick of all the stories where the uke is the center only receives their love, when it can be distributed evenly here.
Nothing is wrong. The love feels unequal.
For some it feels like Ginga likes Kou more, some say
Kou likes Yuu more. I also don’t like it when the Uke gets all the love, this is refreshing. I still prefer love to be equal be it seme or Uke idc.
As you said it’s extremely rare to have two semes that are also intimate, I’m mainly concerned cause the love feels lopsided; lmao how should I describe it?
It feels like: Ginga likes Kou more, Kou likes Yuu more, Yuu likes Kou more
I said hopefully they weren’t flings because as you said, Yuu needs knowledge if they were. The two semes seem to have married mainly because of Yuu so it’s naturally Yuu gets more love I guess but even so, it feels unequal…
Ginga seems to be left out and I’m wondering if the story where it has Kou and Ginga is part of main story or just alternate universe.
Do you know if Kou and Ginga ever said I love you to each other? I can’t remember from the first story and I don’t feel like re reading it again, I do know Kou and Ginga kissed.
I read both and I found nothing suspicious at all. They might have some sort of relationship in the past way before they all started a relationship with all of them. But in that case I definitely saw it as two friends who know that they both like the same guy- however that guy seems to not have any chance of liking them back as he only sleeps around with girls and likes girls. So they may have comforted that sad feeling of having an unrequited love, with each other. I do believe they both truly love yuu the most, however they also like/care for each other as well.
I don’t think they’re doing things behind yuu’s back and knowledge since they started dating. I think that person probably is just paranoid cause they don’t like how close kou and ginga look together lmao. Anyways I hope all of them like each each other equally, and not just that type of relationship where only the uke gets loved by two guys. Yuu also already has known that the two guys are affectionate with each other since kou doesn’t hold back his flirting and gushing over BOTH his “wives.” Yuu also has suggested they do a sandwich position with ginga in the middle. We should be happy the two seme’s are affectionate with each other too rather than be extremely jealous and aggressive towards the other.
Lmao saw u in another comment.
And yes I agree. “
“They were BOTH fated pairs with Yuu. If I remember correctly, it was because Kou’s and Ginga’s cells were super compatibility after being frequently intimate with one another (enough exchange between their mucous membranes). That way they could form a 3-way bond“
This makes sense. This is fairly new to me, 3p where all actually love each other. Trying to get used to it cause usually Yaois be portraying 3p as where Uke gets all the love.
My honest thoughts:
I do think that the love is not exactly equal between all three of them. Since both Kou and Ginga have said before that they’ve always loved Yuu. They care/like for each other as friends and companions who know how each other feels for Yuu. I think I remember reading somewhere in the story where kou said to ginga, Yuu is the 1st person on who he loves the most and ginga is second, but ginga is first on his favorite “dog” list- which kinda is the way how kou sees them as little animal characters where ginga is a puppy and Yuu is a kitty. I think those feelings relate to how both of them feel: they love Yuu the most and always will, however they like each other second. So technically I don’t think they love each other on the same level as they do with Yuu but they are second to each other.
After reading both stories I feel like the order is this: ginga likes Yuu the most because he doesn’t really talk or think about kou that often. Kou likes Yuu the most, however he does adore both ginga and Yuu and gushes about how cute his “wives” are all the time. He rarely even looks to get jealous when ginga and Yuu are together and actually sees it as two cute animals being affectionate lmao. Yuu loves them both, but I CAN see how one might think he likes kou a bit more- just because they showed their past of how kou used to look like a really pretty girl. Which is how Yuu used to think and only liked girls so he leaned toward kouetsu back then.
However I think everyone is going too crazy with their complaints of “ginga doesn’t get as much screen time” “kou seems more loved” like no one is satisfied. I personally think such comments stem from the fact that their favorite character doesn’t show up as much as they want- which sucks for them I guess? But as a person who read both stories I think the screen time switches back and forth between them a fair good amount. In the first story ginga actually had plenty of scenes with Yuu by himself and in MOST of their threesomes where they all do it together, ginga is mostly the one who gets to put it in the behind lol.
Anyways people should be grateful with what they already got, they’re lucky this wasn’t a shitty love triangle or more people would’ve been angry. I’m grateful enough since no guy loses and everyone does eventually get their own affection
What the fuck was this manga supposed to be? What’s the fucking moral? Like why fucking create this, if you’re just perpetuating the toxic and rape tropes found in yaoi manga? MC was raped by his classmates, finds solace in a writer’s garden, and then after trusting this writer, gets raped by him too. And not only that, it feels like he was manipulated/went through some Stockholm syndrome or has some mental illness that made him stay with this fucking sensei. The worst part of this manga, is how they try to make us sympathize and feel bad for the writer rapist, just so we feel less bad about the MC ending up with his rapist. Absolute bullshit.
Fucking 8.6 rating my ass. This was trash. Art was beautiful, but ending sucked. Yea I was getting creepy feelings from the sensei early onwards, but I didn’t expect this shit. His reason for raping the MC was so trash. Essentially raped him bc ‘I started feeling stuff for you, but you’re gonna leave anyways so I might as well find a way to make you leave quicker’ and rape was the answer he came to.
The mirror is double sided? Like Oof, I can already imagine purple bro coming and seeing the scene that Hwan set up rip.
Hopefully that doesn’t happen but also I do want a 3p ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭
Same! I'm also anticipating a 3p.
Everyday we stray further away from God....