FlyFly May 3, 2021 7:35 am

I've not finished reading this but so far its cute. I'm wondering the big "bro" is a trans woman right? I'm a little confused because the younger brother keeps saying big bro.

    en// May 6, 2021 12:04 pm

    yeah his older brother is trans I thought he called her sister later on?

    kageshini May 6, 2021 5:34 pm

    I think the younger brother needed to come to terms with his sister's transition for a bit, in the end he refers to her as 'sis'

FlyFly April 17, 2021 7:28 pm

I really like the design of his collar.
Just wanted say if someone is a Dom/ switch it doesn't mean they are sadistic. They can be but its not synonymous, a sub can be sadistic, as well as be a top, and the Dom can be a bottom.
When I say top and bottom here it doesn't have to be sexual it just means the top gives abd the bottom takes.

So you can have a sadistic sub that is a top and a masochistic Dom that is a bottom.

FlyFly March 4, 2021 2:42 am

I clicked on this because it's a top manga.
Tbh the only thing I liked about it is the art. The story is pretty bad. Idk what I was expecting, but I guess it wasn't this.

FlyFly February 26, 2021 11:58 pm

Taking this from fb... its weird seeing the censorship here.

FlyFly December 22, 2020 11:13 pm

Ngl I lost interest in this so I've only skimmed and I am so fucking lost its not even funny.

    FlyFly December 22, 2020 11:15 pm

    Also I wanted a 3some but nooooooooo

    fujoshi yoshi December 22, 2020 11:27 pm
    Also I wanted a 3some but nooooooooo FlyFly

    same i wanted a threesome but kiyohisa wouldn’t like haruto being in their relationship :<

FlyFly October 20, 2020 9:51 pm

I'm sure it won't go this way but I sort of want him to be asexual and for it to be ok. Like it would make for a great story.

Edit: I am adding this because of 2 comments. I dont want to have an asexual character because of truma. Its just reading something where a character could be asexual made me want to read a story like that.

    JackofSpade October 20, 2020 8:14 pm

    exactly my thoughts. it could be like "how to be a normal person" which is mxm but still with asexual partner

    Azusa October 20, 2020 8:16 pm

    It would definitely be interesting as there are not really stories of asexual people out there (idk is there even one asexual yaoi/bl manga?) also I feel like i am asexual too and I can relate to (Tamaki? The dark haired one) very much so it’d make me feel ok to be like i am if they just accepted one another ( ̄∇ ̄")

    Kat_05 October 20, 2020 8:20 pm
    It would definitely be interesting as there are not really stories of asexual people out there (idk is there even one asexual yaoi/bl manga?) also I feel like i am asexual too and I can relate to (Tamaki? The d... Azusa

    I know there’s ‘say it!’ Which is free on webtoon and tapas and one of the main characters is asexual— it’s super cute!! Even though the guy who likes him is super attracted to him and wants to touch him all the time he’s also respectful of his boundaries and stuff. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ But it’s also a super long and developed story and it’s not finished yet

    Azusa October 20, 2020 8:27 pm
    I know there’s ‘say it!’ Which is free on webtoon and tapas and one of the main characters is asexual— it’s super cute!! Even though the guy who likes him is super attracted to him and wants to touch ... Kat_05

    Ohhh that sounds really cool, I’m definitely gonna check it out ヾ(☆▽☆)

    itsmeimhere October 20, 2020 8:38 pm

    but he’s not asexual, he’s afraid to have sex because of trauma mother gave him him, being asexual in this situation would be pretty sad i think we deserve to best asexual bl where they are really asexual

    Milky October 20, 2020 9:07 pm
    but he’s not asexual, he’s afraid to have sex because of trauma mother gave him him, being asexual in this situation would be pretty sad i think we deserve to best asexual bl where they are really asexual itsmeimhere

    I agree with this statment, I feel like asexual stories most certainly have their place and I would personally like seeing more of them, but they have their place and this story isn't about asexuality its about tramua. Persons who experience conditioning to think that sex is bad like him (even though it wasent intenitional conditioning) tend to have a really hard time excepting the sexual part of themselves and no I don't agree with Shii's advances, but its clear to see that Tamaki had an issue beyond just that of having a problem being touched non-consensually like that. I've seen this trope in yaoi where they might say you're disgusting when they are actually talking about themselves and I think that's what is going on here, in that situation Shii represents the sexual part of Tamaki and is the only one who pries into it thus making Tamaki open up about how he has disgust for that part of himself. Once again I need to restate I would love to see more asexuality, but this just isn't what is occuring here.

    FlyFly October 20, 2020 9:38 pm
    but he’s not asexual, he’s afraid to have sex because of trauma mother gave him him, being asexual in this situation would be pretty sad i think we deserve to best asexual bl where they are really asexual itsmeimhere

    I know the way the story is going is about trauma and not asexuality. I should have been more clear. Its just you don't really see asexual characters and seeing someone that might be asexual made me want to read a story like that.

    FlyFly October 20, 2020 9:45 pm
    I agree with this statment, I feel like asexual stories most certainly have their place and I would personally like seeing more of them, but they have their place and this story isn't about asexuality its about... Milky

    Yes, I definitely agree with this, as I said in the comment above. It was seeing a character that might be asexual that made me want to see it.

    I wouldnt want a character to be asexual because of trauma, I would want them to be asexual because that's what they are. Like I hate yaoi where they are gay because they were raped by men and now crave the dick... fucking gross.

    Just me wanting something a little different, like also another story I was reading where it seems the character was trans but they just wanted to crossdress, nothing wrong with that, but the way it started made me hope they were trans.

    One that actually pissed me off where the character obviously was trans but the person they loved didn't like women so they were "cured"

    All in all its just me wanting something more, and different.

    Milky October 20, 2020 10:42 pm

    Edit: I am adding this because of 2 comments. I dont want to have an asexual character because of truma. Its just reading something where a character could be asexual made me want to read a story like that.

    I get that I was more so on the other comments about it. I'm the same way I like asexual character myself.

    Jay October 21, 2020 1:48 am
    Edit: I am adding this because of 2 comments. I dont want to have an asexual character because of truma. Its just reading something where a character could be asexual made me want to read a story like that.I ge... Milky

    For me personally, it feels wrong and dirty to imagine Tamaki having sex. The trauma and reluctance just doesn’t feel right... this is yaoi so asexuality won’t happen but if the author HAS to add smut, I hope it’ll be a slow burn, like right now with accepting romantic feelings.

    I’ll be disappointed if Tamaki is rushed into sex but the author is doing a great job with the slow burn at the moment so I feel a bit reassured.

    If there were more asexual characters in mangas, it’d be best to look under shounen/shoujo ai. Yaoi is just too tainted with normalizing rape to expect well-developed characters in LGBTQ+ themes (for the most part).

FlyFly August 20, 2020 9:14 pm

The placement of his tongue piercing bothers me lol
Like its too far in the front.

    Saphfire August 20, 2020 10:00 pm

    That's for the ladies lol. When my sister got hers the guy asked her if it was for men's pleasure (further back), women's pleasure (further forward), or just for looks (middle/normal).

FlyFly August 18, 2020 5:07 am

If you can read Spanish look up El tiempo entre un Perro y un lobo manhuwa. Its up to chapter 13

    nona September 2, 2020 8:02 pm

    omg yasssss
    thanks soo much

FlyFly July 30, 2020 2:24 am

I'm just going to pretend the threesome with the little brother didn't happen. Lol
Honestly i like it not too many stories where the couples switch.

FlyFly July 19, 2020 3:30 pm

Funny how the teacher is a creep but the dad is ok because he "loves" the kid and will treat him right.

    Becky07 July 29, 2020 6:25 pm

    Preach

    shinz August 7, 2020 10:44 pm

    Well, the teacher preyed on "underaged" kids ranging 16-19 while the dad "technically" made a move on a legal 20 years old adult. Ethically, it's questionable but legally there really isn't.

    FlyFly August 8, 2020 1:26 pm

    The legality of it isn't the issue, even though it seems like the thing with the teacher happened not too long before they met, but that might just be me not remembering well.

    The dad is going after a kid the same age as his son that still hasn't finished highschool, still depends on his grandmother and who the dad even thought was too young. He tries justifying it to himself as oh well i love him and I won't hurt him, even though he does, so its ok.

    Another thing the father is hypocritical when it comes to how he thinks about his son being gay and him liking the kid. He is an emotionally stunnted, immature man
    that plays childish games with a person half his age. It doesn't seem like he actually cares for him because he misses the cooking and the having someone there instead of thinking about what is best.

    All in all this story would have been so much better without the "romance" of the father and the kid. It would have been nice had the father told the kid he cares for him but not in a romantic way and that he would learn to accept his sons love as time went on, because even that wasn't exactly addressed it was more of well the person I like is a guy so I cant say anything even if I think you would have a better life being straight.

    Oh yeah and if i remember correctly the dad was pissed at the kid for trying to get with a man and even told the man it was illegal because the kids a minor.

    shinz August 9, 2020 5:47 pm
    The legality of it isn't the issue, even though it seems like the thing with the teacher happened not too long before they met, but that might just be me not remembering well. The dad is going after a kid the s... FlyFly

    Yeah, I agree with all of that and it honestly bothered me how he called his son his enemy. There's also a big chance that his i-wish-you-were-never-born attitude will comeback when a slightest bit of problem arise between him and his son again.

    As for romance with a partner with 16 years age gap is pretty fine with me as long as the other one is old enough. The younger one here is 20, seems pretty mature for his age and is going to a good university while maintaining his good grades and also I think he isn't neglecting his relationship with his grandma while being in a relationship, so it's fine with me but what bothered me is that their relationship seems shallow. The younger guy fell for the man because he's hot while the father just seems to like that he kinda has a wife figure in the house keeping the family together. All in all, as you said they should've just didn't include their story or in my opinion the author should've flesh out the story more and gave the characters much more complex personality to know why they truly fell for each otber but that would destroy the whole fluffy and adorable image the story wish to be.

    Akira September 8, 2020 7:07 am
    The legality of it isn't the issue, even though it seems like the thing with the teacher happened not too long before they met, but that might just be me not remembering well. The dad is going after a kid the s... FlyFly

    I liked your comment so much, It sums up exactly what I was thinking. ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

    Sandra03 November 25, 2020 5:47 pm

    I am literally screaming in my room right now because this is so true

    FlyFly November 25, 2020 10:04 pm
    Yeah, I agree with all of that and it honestly bothered me how he called his son his enemy. There's also a big chance that his i-wish-you-were-never-born attitude will comeback when a slightest bit of problem a... shinz

    In a story i honestly dont care if there is a 50 year age difference. Its fiction so whatever, but it does weird me out when ppl are like "omg age gaps its what I want".
    But irl I think that instead of age ppl should look at life experience. Because you can have someone that is 13 and someone that is just 5 years older is wrong. Its because a 13 year old hasn't had the same experiences as the 18 year old.
    Same goes for a 16 year age difference. Usually someone that is 20 still depends on their parents or is just starting to be independiente. Usually by the time someone is 36 they have been on their own, might have children, and have been in at least one long term relationship. It makes it easier for, even if its not intentional, the older one to take advantage of the younger one. It could make it so the younger one depends on the older one not only for money but emotionally.
    Someone that is 40 going with a 56 year old wouldn't seem strange at all.
    Of course this isn't going to apply to everyone, there will be times when someone might be independent and have more experience, but usually such big age gaps when ppl are 18-25 are not good. At least in my opinion.

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