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Nah, see, you say it's just fantasy, but you're not just enjoying it, you're defending it like it's beyond criticism. There's a difference between a dark story and one that excuses or romanticizes rape. And yeah, they're fake people, but real people write this, real people consume it, and real victims exist. Stop acting like folks being uncomfortable with glorified assault is the problem here.

Like there's nothing interesting or deep about this story. It's cliche and obviously made for people to get off to. Please stop acting like it's some original idea someone worked hard on. The art's ugly, characters ugly, plot's shitty, everything is just low-quality and bad.

I’ll say it again you cannot separate fantasy from reality. You’re trying to have a real world conversation on morality about a fictional drawn character who has no ability to feel pain hurt or even the drawn things happening to them. Do you think directors who direct movies about serial killers are serial killers? I doubt you do,these mangas are not for people who want to have a moral argument about negative things happening in the real world this is a fantasy manga that’s just for fun. It’s not as deep as you’re making it because again it’s fantasy not reality. The sooner you get that into your head, the the better. It’s not real and never will be no matter how many times you try to make it in your mind. Using words like romanticizing rape for drawn characters is crazy maybe log off take a deep breath and realize you’re on mangago and not a news article I really don’t care about your personal feelings because this manga isn’t personal And it’s clear it’s not for readers who don’t get that and this is why a lot of mangoes have a reader warning because there’s people out there who cannot separate fiction from reality those warnings are for you but people like you will still read them anyways and then get upset like that. Like that makes any sense..

Imagine seeing a manga cover with a woman’s leg spread with five guys surrounding her and then complaining that the manga isn’t very deep. You must be joking.

You keep saying "it's just fiction" like that's some magic shield from criticism, but you're missing the point so hard it's almost impressive. No one thinks the characters are real. We all know they're drawings. What people are calling out is you (a real person) sitting here passionately defending rape being turned into a kink, then acting shocked when others find that fucked up.

You're not passively reading it. You're not just scrolling and moving on. You're in the comments now trying to type essays trying to convince everyone that it's normal and fine to get off to stories where rape is framed as romantic or deserved. You're not separating fantasy from reality, you’re literally trying to erase the line altogether so you don't have to question why you're enjoying it.

And the serial killer movie comparison is so fucking weak. Seriously?? People watch those for horror or psychological tension, not to fantasize about being the killer's love interest while they're dragging a corpse across the floor. You're not watching for catharsis, you're fantasizing about abuse. There's a difference, and pretending there isn't just makes you look unhinged dude.

You say you "don't care about personal feelings," but you wrote a whole comment whining about people having them. If you really didn't care, you'd scroll past instead of throwing a tantrum every time someone points out how messed up the content is. It's not that people can't tell fiction from reality, it's that you're way too comfortable with fiction that glorifies shit that ruins real lives. And yeah, that says something.

Bro be for real... if the cover looks like a hentai ad, no one's out here expecting deep themes. But don't act surprised when people call it out for glorifying rape. Just admit it's trashy jerk-off material and move on instead of trying to defend it like it's misunderstood art. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Well tbh this kind of h3ntai make ppl normalized this sh1t (cornering girl then f*ck her, and also when she is drunk) . well yes it just fiction but the more u read manhwa like this the more it will affect ur mind unconsciously. It can be happen at real life too. So don't take things too lightly. So even though u enjoy the h3ntai u should still remind urself this is sh1t and moralless. Thats why i'm okay ppl say sh1t about this manhwa it means they still sane or maintain their sanity. So don't bother to hate them.

There actually is a whole Netflix series with five seasons called “you” romanticizing a serial killer because people realize it’s not reality, now what? lol. I don’t know if you’ve been living under a rock or not, but there are actual real world human actors with a whole show romanticizing killers, but continue to fight for your life under the comments of a manga like that makes any sense. The ones that are calling out this story don’t realize they’re in the minority because most people in general understand the difference between fantasy and reality. Maybe you should go protest outside of Netflix for them creating a show that romanticizes the serial killer at least those are real people acting out a fantasy not drawn, characters. And if whining to, you means replying to your asinine comment, then by all means

You can say glorifying grape 1000 times it doesn’t make that the reality. This isn’t real you complained it wasn’t deep and now you’re saying nobody expected deep things so you just complain for complaining sake stop reading smut manga if this is going to be the end result because you’re never gonna stop mangas from being created or stop people from reading them.

. It’s funny because in the 80s and 90s they said video games made kids more violent and y’all unironically sound like that. Anyone reading a manga and attributing it to real life are mentally ill because you have to think about it if someone reads a manga and they decide they wanna go out and kill somebody or if somebody reads a manga and then they go out and decide they want to rape someone in real life That’s a mentally unstable person just like if somebody plays a video game and decides they’re gonna go out and shoot people they’re mentally unstable too. We’ve had books and illustrations for centuries now about all kinds of things. Y’all have a personal issue with separating fantasy from reality and like I said this is why these manga have to have a reader Discretion that it’s fiction nobody’s forcing you to read these let alone try to have a moral debate about real world events. I’ve never once read any of these mangoes and considered these to be anything close to reality.

You’re talking about rape happening in the real world like no one knows that that happens, but this isn’t the real world and most people understand that too. There’s a manga called killing in stocking and people loved that manga because they realize it’s not reality. Again, y’all are trying to have debates about real world things under fantasy mangas, if anyone is into rape, they were into it before they read this manga. Y’all are trying to say that this manga is going to turn people into rapist, which sounds crazy and is crazy.

Funny you brought up You because I just looked it up. Yeah, it's about a serial killer, but the show actually makes it clear the guy is messed up. He's not framed as some romantic hero. He narrates his delusions, sure, but the story constantly shows how dangerous and selfish he really is. He kills people, stalks women, ruins lives, and the audience is supposed to be disturbed by it. If people are out here thirsting and simping over him, that's on them, not the writing.

What we're calling out in this story is different. It's not just "bad things happening in fiction." It's how the story treats rape like it's hot or romantic. That's not really complex, that's just fetishization period. You can write dark shit without glorifying it or making it something to get off to.

"Go protest outside of Netflix then" Dude... Why does it bother you so much that people criticize content like this?... Nobody's holding you at gunpoint and forcing you to stop reading this. But if you're gonna enjoy something that turns rape into a kink, at least own it instead of pretending this is okay to normalize.

And since you wanna bring up real actors and Netflix, you do realize there's kids that literally killed people and blamed GTA, right? A video game. Fiction or not, people internalize things. Not everyone has that ability to fully separate fantasy from reality like y'all keep bragging about. That's exactly why people speak up about stories like this, because even if it's fake, the way you defend it? That's very real.

Nobody's trying to stop anyone from reading anything... You can read all the rape smut you want, I literally can't stop you. What I can do is call it what it is: glorified assault. I'mma say this again... just because it's drawn doesn't make it immune to criticism. You're acting like I could just walk into your room and slap the book out of your hands.

I said it's not deep because it's not. And people use that same excuse to brush off how messed up it is. You can't have it both ways, saying "it's just smut, don't take it seriously" while also flipping out when people take a second to actually look at what it's saying.

Nobody's complaining just to complain. Some of us just aren't gonna sit here and normalize rape being packaged as romance, even in fiction. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask yourself why, not deflect with "it's not real" like that automatically makes it okay.

I mean like you said it yourself, that this is trashy jerk off material.... People should be able to distinguish between reality and fantasy, like people who are reading this KNOW this is wrong and is an act that SHOULD NOT be recreated in REAL LIFE, if they can't even do that I don't think the manga is the problem I think the person is the problem. There ARE people who fantasize being taken by force, do they actually want to be? No, because that's a fantasy in their head and they probably was just horny (does that mean they want to be graped? Obvi not) and there is a consensual non-consensual kink so yeah. If people read this and then normalizes it I don't think the problem is them reading something with taboo topics, it's obviously them who's already fucked up, and if there are too young to comprehend that this is wrong? Why are they even on here. Honestly your point is right however I think everybody has enough brain cells to know that it is wrong but still enjoy it because it's not real . This is a smut, it's not that deep, so maybe if you don't like it just turn it off . I'm not even defending this because to me this story is straight ass, but this topic has come up so much that I just need address it, like we're on manga go, if you don't like it just scroll. Like you, said people enjoy horror for the thrill, some people enjoy THIS for the thrill AND the horniness, that's literally it. For your mental health I think whenever you see these things just move on, because you are on mangago, and if you use this website you're going to encounter something like this every damn Tuesday, heck I don't even like this type of content and I have to go out of my way to say this because apparently people don't have common sense nowadays .

lTalking to you is like talking to a fucking wall. You're not reading anything I said, you're just dead set on getting the last word like that somehow makes your point valid. I never said you couldn't read this shit. I said if you're gonna jerk off to something that romanticizes rape, at least stop acting like it's above criticism. (〜￣△￣)〜

Maybe actually watch the show versus just reading someone else’s opinion about it just like you’re reading this manga you hate so much to form your opinion about it because if you actually watch the show, it does romanticize the serial killer but that doesn’t fit your narrative right? Again, it’s not rape because this isn’t real. These are drawn characters. You can keep calling at that if you want, but I don’t accept your reality because I know it’s not reality.

Why does it bother you that most people don’t share your reality on this manga because again this isn’t rape because these aren’t real people, doesn’t even meet the legal definition for rape. This manga isn’t even reality. Nobody is forcing you to stay under this manga to complain 1000 times. You commented under my post, I didn’t comment under yours so you’re the one that’s actually bothered not me lol, a hit dog always hollers I guess..

The people who can’t separate fantasy from reality are literally mentally ill, which brings me back to my original comment that you clearly had a problem with which is why you commented in the first place, you’re not disagreeing with me that people have a problem separating fantasy from reality you’re just upset that I pointed that out as the actual root of the problem, not the manga itself. Most people do know how to separate fantasy from reality the ones that cannot or don’t know how to like I said, do not need to be reading this manga and they should heed the reader discretion warning not blame the manga for their own actions. You cannot blame a manga that has already warned you about the content choose to still read it and then complain that it exists And that’s the issue that I actually have with people like you you know that there are mangas out there like this and you choose to read it anyways ,because you specifically can’t separate fiction from reality that shouldn’t be everybody else’s problem but you make it everyone else else’s problem..

Alright, you know what? I'm done... You're not arguing, you're just spiraling in circles, trying to out-type me like that somehow makes your take stronger. You haven't responded to a single thing I've actually said, you just keep twisting it to fit whatever narrative makes you feel smarter in the moment. You are literally a wall bro.

You clearly didn't want a conversation, you just wanted someone to validate your weird obsession with calling rape fantasy "not that deep" while still bending over backwards to defend it. You say "it's not real" like that erases the way real people consume and normalize it, and I'm tired of watching you dodge that over and over like it's rocket science.

So yeah, you can keep talking to yourself if it makes you feel better, but I'm out. I've got better shit to do than argue with someone who hears nothing and thinks saying "it's just drawings" is a personality.

And it's a public comment section, I can respond to whoever the fuck I want. The block option is there for a reason. Feel free to put it to use. (︶︿︶)＝凸

Lol actually all who comment maybe already jerking or something. They just say it out maybe to reminding to not support this action (like rape stuff) and i don't think it is wrong, its a good thing tho if u find it annoying u also can skipped it. And what u expect on comment section? Ppl being horny ass and sluting? did u know why we comment this cuz some ppl start the war comment first -_-

It feels like you’re speaking to a brick wall because we don’t agree on the premise about fictional characters in Mangas being raped. These aren’t real people they’re not experiencing actual rape. They’re not even experiencing reality so I don’t consider this rape however you do because you can’t separate fiction from fantasy. You specifically see rape for some reason and I just see characters in a fantasy world acting out a scene drawn by someone So therefore, I don’t take this seriously or realistically. The entire plot is unrealistic even her level of wetness is unrealistic, and the characters don’t look realistic, so why would I assign realistic morality to it. Most people don’t take this as seriously as you are maybe you should ask why you struggle with this specificall. It sounds like you struggle to do that and I’m a woman so I don’t need to jerk off to anything Have you considered that women enjoy mangas like this? Maybe even a woman created this manga you seem obsessed with throwing the word riape around but maybe understand that these characters are not real and what happens in a fictional fantasy manga is not what people would want in real life just because someone enjoys content doesn’t mean that they would enjoy it in real life. I love vampires, but I wouldn’t wanna become one and I wouldn’t want to fall in love with a vampire in real life. .

I get what you're saying, and honestly, you're way more level-headed than most people in these comments. You're not wrong, people should be able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. And yeah, consensual non-consent is a valid kink when it's done safely and with boundaries. I'm not here to shame anyone for what they fantasize about.

But here's the thing. A lot of this kind of smut doesn't just present dark stuff for the thrill, it frames it like the assault is sexy, like the victim ends up falling in love with the abuser and that somehow makes it okay. That's not just "exploring a dark theme," that's romanticizing abuse. And when people see that over and over, especially younger readers (aka minors) or people already dealing with trauma, it can absolutely influence how they think. Not everyone starts out fucked up. Sometimes media plays a role in shaping how people see things, even if it's just a little at a time.

And yeah, I know this is Mangago. I know it's full of smut, and most of it's garbage. I've seen worse. But saying "just scroll past it" isn't always enough when the conversation is about the kind of messaging that keeps showing up. People should be allowed to call it out without being told to shut up and move on every time.

Anyway, I respect that you're not being defensive about it at least.

I mean yeah, you're right, but most of the comments commenting about this aren't really reminding to not support these actions but more like shaming the manga and the readers, which is really rude and kills the mood (that rhymed), also yeah I should have just skip this comment but I see it so many times it makes my blood boil. Like yo it's not that deep, you don't need to be all butt hurt and piss off other people because of it.

Honestly yeah this point is valid, I also don't condone those abusive mangas and then they fall in love with the abuser too. Tho what I meant is for people to separate that while reading SMUT, and i mean smut specifically, like just straight porn yk. (Or porn with a bit of plot). Some people just have impulses sometimes and they just read weird stuff. HOWEVER, ROMANCE in particular, that romanticizes rape and abuse is NOT ok, I call it out too. Those types of stories actually romancesize it, specifically anything Colleen Hoover, like girl give me your writing license please (e-hem it ends with us e-hem, the book specifically). But I understand that some romance novels just use it for more "flavor" and "thrill" too, they just dabble in it a bit and don't use it ass whole theme, (which kind of sucks because you could have used literally anything else), I do hate it but I'll overlook it because even if I say anything it won't really change anything

Ar this point, it just feels like you’re throwing a tantrum because I don’t agree with you on the premise of rape in mangas and because we can’t even agree to that there’s nothing further to discuss as I said earlier. It’s not about having the last word or spiraling or anything like that, This is an a gotcha and I don’t know why that is even your focus. I just simply don’t agree that fictional characters experience, rape. Everything is unrealistic about mangas but for you, it’s clearly realistic, which takes me to my original point that people who can’t separate fiction from reality should forgo Mangas in general, especially ones that involve sexual content, its not for you.

I don’t need to feel better about anything because I don’t feel shame about anything or bad about anything because I’m not the one trying to create moral arguments around manga. I’m not having a moral dilemma or crashing out over whether my fictional manga is considered rape or not like you are. You are having the moral quandry and making it everybody else’s issue. Maybe you should sort out your feelings before reading mangas with questionable covers and then throwing the word rape around because people enjoy the same manga you chose to read lol. No one is OK with rape, the fact that you’re trying to insinuate that just because people like a manga that they like rape,is also why I think you’re mentally ill.

Maybe ask yourself why you chose To read this manga with this kind of cover reader warnings with one girl in four men on the cover. Take some fucking responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming a manga. Don’t like it don’t read it and please stop bitching about Your own choices to us.

Thanks for ur respect

It’s very obvious just from the homepage that mangago is not for minors so that’s a weak ass argument. Theirs sexual content warning labels on here for a reason, there’s readers discretion messages in the mangas for a reason. If people still choose to read it, that’s their own fault for ignoring every sign that was given to them, and every warning that was given to them, but people who like to down vote this kind of stuff even though you’ve been warned this part of the problem, you take no responsibility for your own actions and choices. Why is a parent allowing their kid on mangago. Why would a sexual assault victim read a manga that has one girl in four men with her leg spread as the cover image?
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You wanna blame everything else but the individual for putting themselves in an uncomfortable reading situation and the only person I’m seeing being defensive is you because you’re the one complaining about the manga when everybody else is just trying to enjoy it Without being compared to being a rape lover or apologist by people like you. nine times out of 10 if I don’t like a manga I drop it without making a big fuss about it but there’s constantly people like you in the comment section under every explicit manga crying about it being explicit Make that make sense. Under every manga that is obviously sexual, there’s always someone trying to say that if you enjoy the manga, you enjoy rape or you enjoy this stuff in real life and that’s so ridiculous. Get a grip stop trying to shame people because that’s exactly what you’re doing even though you say you aren’t your language is very much a shaming tactic.

I agree and the people that try to shame others they never expect to be called out for that like some of the manga authors who have some more intense mangas are women. I’m a woman and I enjoyed this and I don’t understand where people come off of their high horse to tell everybody they should be ashamed of themselves for enjoying what they enjoy. It should be nothing but positive vibes on a site like this, but it feels more like YouTube comments under a video on CNN about budget cuts then it does a manga site where people can just escape into a fantasy world and every time I see comments like this it’s such a buzz kill And annoying as hell. Like it’s not real it’s a fantasy and it’s really not that deep as you said I don’t get why some people don’t get that and it makes me feel like there may be really young and they shouldn’t even be on the site because most adults reading this understand that this isn’t reality.

Thanks for the respect

You're doing the most over a conversation I already walked away from. I'm not here to babysit victims, parents, or whoever you think this is about. I made a comment about how the story romanticizes rape. That's it. You turned it into some full-blown meltdown like I kicked down your door and called you a predator.

Nobody said you can't read it. Nobody said you are a rapist. But if you see someone criticize a story and your first instinct is to spiral, start making wild assumptions, and throw around "mentally ill" like that's some kind of insult, that says a hell of a lot more about you than me.

And yeah, I brought up minors because warnings don't mean shit when people ignore them. Kids click past content warnings all the time. Acting like those little red labels somehow erase the issue is just lazy. The fact that you can't even grasp why that was mentioned shows you were more focused on being mad than actually understanding anything I said.

I called the content out because I felt like it. Period. You don't like it? Scroll. You say people "cry" under every manga, but here you are typing a full novel because I said something you didn't agree with. Be so for real.

Now for the sake of both our sanity, just stfu and stop replying. I'm muting this thread and moving on with my day. (︶︿︶)＝凸

And that's on period. Honestly by the end of this whole thread what I've learned is if you don't like a manga scroll past it, if you felt the need to call it out then that's totally valid too, and if someone else doesn't like your comment then they should just scroll past it too. Let's just all ignore each other and enjoy (or not) weird mangas on manga go together.
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You’ve been arguing with multiple posts under this manga so it’s ironic that you’re saying I’m having a full blown meltdown simply for correcting your ill informed opinions under my post.. Seems like you lack self-awareness in more ways than one. I never agreed with your stupid “romanticizing rape” argument because non of this is real for the thousandth time lol, do you get that?

Your second paragraph makes no sense because I never claimed what you’re arguing. Whether you felt I could read it or not is not something I’ve even cared about and I stand by the fact that if somebody cannot separate reality from fantasy, yes they are mentally ill and if using that word, hurts your feelings or feels like an insult to you maybe that’s why my comment triggered you in the first place because that’s literally a fact not an insult. It might feel insulting because you feel called out, but not being able to separate fantasy from reality is not a healthy mental state that somebody who is mentally unstable. What it says about me as I have a better grasp of separating fantasy from reality than you do, It’s like you want me to use Rosie words rather than seeing things for what it is.

I see this manga for what it is a fantasy not reality characters not humans scenes not real events, Can you say the same??

Imagine commenting under my post and saying that if I don’t like your response to me that I should just scroll you sound really dumb right now. Why don’t you live by example because you never had to reply to me in the first place, so actualize your own words. I guess we’re both crying by your definition because you’ve also written a novel because I’ve said something you didn’t agree with right?

You seem to put yourself in situations that make you uncomfortable just to complain like this situation you commented under my post and then you complain that I respond to you. I do agree with you on one thing that you should stfu and stop replying under my post.

Have the day you deserve.

What’s weird is they decided to reply under my post because they didn’t like what I had to say and they complained about this mango because they didn’t like the mango. They just seem like they like to argue with people and complain a lot. They’ve argued with multiple posts of people who like this manga so it’s not just me that they’ve argued with.

Telling others to not respond their reply is ironic lol. None of this would’ve happened if they had just scrolled past my post in the first place.

I agree with both of you in some intent but I'm confused, what were you expecting while clicking this comic after seeing the cover? (Genuinely curious cause I clicked bc how cringe the cover was wanted to have a laugh about the art, idk about the r*pe part cause I've read only the first half of chapter 1 and the last updated)

For real agree with you %

weakest shit EVERRRR obviously this person also doesnt like the idea of that, but how is that even relevant?? youre grasping for straws and your desperation is pitiful, sorry.

It’s relevant to comment I was specifically replying to in this thread. Not sure why you’re chiming in on an old ass reply when this convo has gone far beyond that. Move along from the peanut gallery.