
I only read 2-3 chapters, but I can already tell i'm gonna fucking hate it. Idk why there are stories where one person completely destroys the others life, then they get together?????? WHY TF? and it's always "justified" with having trauma, it's really fucking gross. If you're sensitive to manipulation, blackmail, and rape, PLEASE do not ever even think about reading this shit

So shitty. Once again yaoi normalizes rape. Fucking disgusting

just look it up on google, tons of people have it, and some people roleplay rape with their partners, CONSENSUALLY. Not you shitting on people who have fetishes ....it's definitely okay to have a rape fetish when they have the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because you don't have that fetish doesn't mean other people can't, and shouldn't have them.

By bs do you mean like having a rape fetish? or how i said it’s fictional? but to clarify i meant that a rape fetish is normal and its okay because in fiction its ofc not real life, and is a just fantasy fulfilling these fetishes, which many people have, and is normal because many people have many different preferences. rape fetish=/= rape or rapist.

so about that... most people have the ability to separate fiction from reality. it's not like someone who has a rape fetish (of being raped or raping others) is going to read a yaoi manga and do that in real life. ofc, there are rapists, but they don't rape people because of these mangas. even if they do, it's a very small, immoral percentage. most mangas with rape either have a character show that rape is bad or there's a warning page which clearly states that it's only fiction and should never be nonconsensually acted out in real life.

key word in your own bullshit comment "most". You would be surprised on how many people dont have that basic ability. They can see rape in fiction, and think its ok because of how many people DONT CARE. Idk if you think its hot, just dont try to speak against me being mad at the fact that its normalized when its a literal fucking crime.

Do you realize that you're not even making any sense right now??? You said "most", right?? Then what about the other people who CANT seperate fiction from reality? What you see on the internet sometimes leads to you doing such wrong things you possibly can't even imagine, y'know. The fact you even think rape is okay in fiction is fucking disgusting. I had never imagined that there were people like this on earth until I found this site. "it's a very small, immoral percentage", you say? Are you just going to act like the victims who got sexually assaulted don't exist? Are you really not going to point out that even if there is a "small amount" of rapists who get influenced by the media, It is still DEFINITELY NOT OKAY AND THAT THERE ARE EVEN MORE VICTIMS WHO GO THROUGH THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY??? BUT HERE YALL ARE ROMANTICIZING IT. I HATE THAT I ACTUALLY LIVE IN A WORLD SAME AS THE PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE THIS. Also, if people especially KNOW that rape is wrong then why do they make works like these?

Okay, first of all, when did i even say that i don’t care about the victims? Of course rape is a really fucking awful, but my point is that people, these artists, are free to draw rape in their stories, because it’s called freedom of expression, and people who have fetishes have the freedom to read the stories. It’s not like they are justifying it. PEOPLE DONT HAVE TO STOP HAVING FETISHES OR STOP DRAWING WHAT THEY WANT JUST BECAUSE OF THESE RAPISTS WHO YOU CANT EVEN PROVE HOW MANY RAPISTS ARE ACTUALLY INFLUENCED BY THESE STORIES. I CANT WITH YOU MAKING ME OUT TO BE SOMEONE WHO DOESNT CARE ABOUT RAPE VICTIMS. As to why people like rape stories or have rape fantasies/fetishes, it’s just like BDSM, or any other fetish relating to dominance. It’s natural for people to be fantasize about certain things. Sheesh at least nasty_weeb seemed respectful.

People have the freedom to write and draw what they want, as long as they say that what and what should not be done in real life. Having a rape fetish isn’t even wrong, because having a rape fetish doesn’t mean it’s actually rape, it’s just a fantasy. Esp if people do roleplay its consensual. Once again you can’t prove how many or less people are motivated to rape because of these stories, and you also can’t prove how many people can separate fiction from reality.
But i see that you’re not going to change your mins anytime soon, so let’s agree to disagree.

That doesnt make it okay dipshit. Why would you go to such lengths to defend RAPE. The MC doesnt have a rape kink, it was just straight up rape. And having "a rape kink" doesnt even fucking excuse what happens in these mangas, yaoi or not. You/'re just looking for an excuse to defend a literal crime. You're probably the type of person to see a "hot" criminal and try to excuse his crime because "his looks make up for it". At this point just forget about defending your stupid rape fetish and go hang out with other assholes like yourself

First of all, i wasn't defending RAPE. I am defending the mangakas' RIGHT TO PUT RAPE IN THEIR STORY. THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BECAUSE IT IS FICTION. THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T SEPARATE FICTION FROM REALITY IS YOU. FICTION ISN'T REAL, AND WHILE IT MIGHT INFLUENCE RAPISTS YOU CAN'T PROVE IT HAPPENS. PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO READ. RAPE IS FUCKING AWFUL, IN REAL LIFE. You're literally accusing me of being a bad person when the people calling other people names is YOU. I at least tried to have a respectable discussion.
SINCE YOU'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME, I CAN SAY YOU'RE:
-definitely the type of person to judge people over a few things they said on the internet
-probably a person who doesn't know that people can have the freedom to do what they want.
-probably someone who doesn't understand that different people have different fetishes than you, which is as natural as being attracted to different sexes
-and because rape is bad and you don't think other people have the ability to separate fiction and reality,
-you're deliberately clicking into and reading a yaoi which has a RAPE TAG,
-and then shame people who like it and have a rape fetish, even though the manga has a very clear warning.
You're the dipshit here. Go hang out with the other people who responded to me, who are as disrespectful as you. You're just like those homophobic assholes who click into a shounen ai anime and then say 'ew gay', no matter how much you say you're a good person.

YOU HEAVILY IMPLIED IT. Even in this reply you’re literally saying that i don’t know what rape victims go through every day, which is not true because i know some of them personally. My point is that as warnings and tags exist, people with rape fetishes are free to read them, and the mangakas are free to draw them. As long as rape victims don’t read these mangas they won’t get affected at all, so why are you talking about rape victims? as i said again, you can avoid reading fiction with rape, just know that people have the freedom to read and draw these. it’s literally that simple.

Its the fact that you seem fine with people liking bdsm and not rape roleplay, both of which are consensual. people with rape fetishes may like reading manga with rape involved. also i do agree that the romanitization is not needed. in a lot of yaoi mangas the rapist is brought to justice in one way or another, and lots of them are just plain porn oneshots with no romance.
you guys and i have just been repeating our points, so let’s just please agree to disagree. you guys learn to read tags, and i avoid arguing with random strangers in the weird corner of the internet.
Congrats to the author for improving their art (●'◡'●)ノ it's so pleasing to the eyes