Mimi420 January 10, 2021 10:57 pm

I don’t get how some of y’all are seeing what he did as Character Development. It isn’t. It’s still ridiculous that some of you think it is. He literally tied up Nakyum cause he didn’t want him saying shit and that triggered his PTSD. If he didn’t do that, he would have continued to r*pe him over and over.
I get that some of you want them to have a happy ending, and I am sorry but this story isn’t going to be one. Even if they do get together, it can’t replace what he’s done. Put yourself in Nakyum’s shoes. If you were him, would you honestly still wanna be with Seungho?

    Nishinoyasthunderstorm January 10, 2021 11:04 pm

    Uhm , ur reaching .... yes sungho was an ass and he did extremely inexcusable fucked up up things , but listen , he was already psycho to begin with , he isn't psychologically in a right place him falling in love with nakyum also messed with him and after letting his guard down around him and all only to find out he ran away of course a psychopath like him was gonna break , it's truly not his fault it's the people that made him like this , I'm not a seungho apologist cause his hot... no I'm just saying that for seungho this is extreme character development . The fact that immediately he saw how shaken and distraught nakyum was mumbling all this weird things and immediately drew him into a hug and then informed that he was kidnapped not that he ran away , I'm 100% sure his mind has gone through the loopiest roller coaster and that he knows that he fucked up . Please . Seungho deserves a happy ending so does nakyum thanks

    Mimi420 January 10, 2021 11:08 pm
    Uhm , ur reaching .... yes sungho was an ass and he did extremely inexcusable fucked up up things , but listen , he was already psycho to begin with , he isn't psychologically in a right place him falling in lo... Nishinoyasthunderstorm

    Okay. I’m gonna understand it from your POV but I also want you to realize that I know he’s a psycho. But from the beginning, he’s acted this way. He doesn’t think before he does something. He acts, then later regrets, like he’s doing now. Before he fell in love with him, he r*ped him. He took advantage of the fact that he was drunk. Yeah, society made him that way but he didn’t have to go ahead and project his anger towards Nakyum. He also blackmailed ad threatened him multiple times so, I’m sorry if I can’t seem to want Seungho to have a happy ending

    Croustichips January 10, 2021 11:28 pm
    Uhm , ur reaching .... yes sungho was an ass and he did extremely inexcusable fucked up up things , but listen , he was already psycho to begin with , he isn't psychologically in a right place him falling in lo... Nishinoyasthunderstorm

    So true ! Finally someone who understand

    Croustichips January 10, 2021 11:29 pm
    Uhm , ur reaching .... yes sungho was an ass and he did extremely inexcusable fucked up up things , but listen , he was already psycho to begin with , he isn't psychologically in a right place him falling in lo... Nishinoyasthunderstorm

    So true ! Finally someone who do understand

    Zarathustra January 11, 2021 12:50 am

    No, it's the shamers like you who need some talking to.

    Stop the bullshit. Stop shaming people for their fictional ship. Especially if it is you who choose to read a non normative ( in this case a non con) subgenera. You came here knowing what you were going to get and that the shipping would upset you and you (the shamers) want everyone else stop or explaining to you so you feel more comfortable.

    No one owns you nothing. Adults choosing to read a rape plot trope just to keep shaming chapter after chapter the other readers are the most childish, annoying thing in here.

    What it's ridiculous are the readers like you who choose to read a rape Yaoi rape plot and hang around chapter after chapter thinking you have the right to shame shippers.
    What I don't get is why choose to read a story that clearly is not something you enjoy reading or can tolerate. Is it because the pleasure is to post shaming posts demanding people to explain to you why they ship this and that?
    Is it because you think your standard of morality for adult fiction is the one that everybody should have otherwise they are morally inferior to you?
    This is a fictional story. As hard as it is for people like you to get through the thick head, some readers just don't need their fiction to follow the same rules and laws from real life. I can root for a murderous villain to get away in fiction and, despite of how hard you try to argue, that doesn't mean at all that I accept this in real life or my morals are lesser than yours.

    "If you were him, would you honestly still wanna be with Seungho"?
    In real life? No.
    If I read and ship a forbidden incest pairing, does it mean I want to fuck my brother or sister in real life?
    No.
    If I root for my favorite Yaoi couple who are Yakuza members and live Yakuza life (all sort of crimes from human traffic, drugs, rapes, murder), does that mean that I would want a hot Yakuza boss to get away with his criminal life?
    No.

    Do I understand why some people have different levels of tolerance, taste, understand on fictional characters than myself?
    Yes. I may not understand people who read incest and I can't stomach but my level of conscience allows me to understand that what people find repulsive, impossible to understand, hard to ship does not mean in any way a translation of their values in real life. Nor is it for me to go start reading an incest story just to keep shaming, asking them to explain to me why are they shipping this or that.

    I mean, people who ship Seungho x Nakyum or any of these tropes with abusive relationship usually enjoy the redemption arch. Also these stories are most, if not all the time, clear to identify from the start.
    If you don't understand why people want to see a happy ending, it is not anyone else problem. You are the one who decided to read a rape trope plot, knowing very well the audience and the endgame.
    You chose to read this story knowing very well the formula.
    It is possible that the author is baiting readers with her explicit art of a happy couple? It is but very unlikely.
    No honest reader of POTN can tell they don't know that this is rape plot trope where Seungho and Nakyum are set to have a relationship.
    The author spends a lot of effort not even being subtle about it so between the shippers who are reading this for the happing ending and the misguided 'I don't like rape plot but let me hang around POTN just so I can feel superior lecturing those shippers', it's you who need the talking.

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 1:18 am
    No, it's the shamers like you who need some talking to. Stop the bullshit. Stop shaming people for their fictional ship. Especially if it is you who choose to read a non normative ( in this case a non con) sub... Zarathustra

    Lol. Firstly, I don’t know what makes you think I didn’t read the r*pe tags. Secondly, I didn’t say youshouldn’t ship who you wanna ship. What I said if you were smart enough to read what I wrote, was that people should stop seeing what he did as good. I am not trying to “be superior” cause if I was, I would straight up insult y’all, which I didn’t. If you read my reply to the person above me, I explained what I said.
    The same way you gave your opinion to me is the same way I can to you. I didn’t shame anyone did I? Did I say stop reading it? Did I say y’all are stupid for reading this disgusting thing? No. I gave them my opinion just like everyone on this website does. So go ahead and cry me a river and continue your merry day.

    mintcum January 11, 2021 2:01 am
    Lol. Firstly, I don’t know what makes you think I didn’t read the r*pe tags. Secondly, I didn’t say youshouldn’t ship who you wanna ship. What I said if you were smart enough to read what I wrote, was t... Mimi420

    I agree with you. Don't listen to the haters

    Zarathustra January 11, 2021 2:06 am
    Lol. Firstly, I don’t know what makes you think I didn’t read the r*pe tags. Secondly, I didn’t say youshouldn’t ship who you wanna ship. What I said if you were smart enough to read what I wrote, was t... Mimi420

    The best part of the shamers that they can't even understand their own posts.
    You post something trashing the people who ship Seungho x Nakyum then says you didn't.
    You are the one crying a river about a rape trope you choose to read thinking you need to talk people about how they should feel about it.
    Grow the fuck up.

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 2:13 am
    Okay. I’m gonna understand it from your POV but I also want you to realize that I know he’s a psycho. But from the beginning, he’s acted this way. He doesn’t think before he does something. He acts, the... Mimi420

    I am grown sweety. You’re the one who made a whole essay about what I commented

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 2:17 am

    Not the dumbass blocking me cause I don’t like her ship

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 2:18 am

    Making whole ass essays cause I don’t like the ship

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 2:21 am

    You’re making comments cause I disagree with you. Go touch some grass dumbass. I know you’re reading this cause you’re a little child whose mad I’m not agreeing with them.

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 2:23 am

    I am grown sweety. You’re the one who made a whole essay about what I commented

    Jojo January 11, 2021 3:15 am
    I am grown sweety. You’re the one who made a whole essay about what I commented Mimi420

    Why tf did i read the whole thing my brain hurts. (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸 ╥﹏╥

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 3:26 am
    Why tf did i read the whole thing my brain hurts. (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸 ╥﹏╥ Jojo

    Lol, I’m sorry for your pain it gave me a headache too

    mhny15 January 11, 2021 4:29 am
    Not the dumbass blocking me cause I don’t like her ship Mimi420

    LMAOOO

    Nishinoyasthunderstorm January 11, 2021 11:01 am
    Okay. I’m gonna understand it from your POV but I also want you to realize that I know he’s a psycho. But from the beginning, he’s acted this way. He doesn’t think before he does something. He acts, the... Mimi420

    Like I said the guy is freaking psycho , since before he met nakyum he was always a crazy mother fucker ,yes he toyed with nakyum but I can tell you that once more it's not his fault he was also treated the same way as younger his own parent , did u not read the chapter , it would have been a different case if he wasn't a victim instead ... once more u r reaching and at this point u done stretch that rope to far ... when he realized he loved nakyum he wanted to treat him good pamper him etc but when he taught nakyum abandoned him I bet he was scared and torn , if this were morden days he would be in a mental institution, wether u like it or not nakyum is good for seungho , he can change him , I feel like crying thinking about what seungho went through as a child , he needs all the love he can get , that doesn't mean he shouldn't own up to his actions he should he should beg nakyum till he cries blood , but it's up to nakyum to forgive him . Seungho is the exact by product of an evil family, he was a shining soul before but now he is drowning ne I bet it's nakyum love that can help him . He does deserve happiness

    Nishinoyasthunderstorm January 11, 2021 11:03 am
    No, it's the shamers like you who need some talking to. Stop the bullshit. Stop shaming people for their fictional ship. Especially if it is you who choose to read a non normative ( in this case a non con) sub... Zarathustra

    I swear I just fell in love with u exactly I say this all the time YES THE PLOT IS RAPE ITS FOR THE STORY ITS THE DRAMA IF U DONT LIKE IT BYE Y R U EVEN STILL HERE LIKE SINCE CHAPTER 1 boy bye

    Nishinoyasthunderstorm January 11, 2021 11:07 am
    Not the dumbass blocking me cause I don’t like her ship Mimi420

    I ain't coming for u or nothing but like y u even here if u don't like nakyum nd seungho like just wondering

    Croustichips January 11, 2021 11:08 am
    No, it's the shamers like you who need some talking to. Stop the bullshit. Stop shaming people for their fictional ship. Especially if it is you who choose to read a non normative ( in this case a non con) sub... Zarathustra

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 12:15 pm
    Like I said the guy is freaking psycho , since before he met nakyum he was always a crazy mother fucker ,yes he toyed with nakyum but I can tell you that once more it's not his fault he was also treated the sam... Nishinoyasthunderstorm

    Again, I’m reading this because I like the story. I do care about the fact that Seungho was abused, but it doesn’t make what he’s doing right. Have you read Killing Stalking? If you have, do you also excuse what Sangwoo did just because of his past? That’s like saying that it’s fine for everyone to do bad things because they were abused as children. Yoonbum was abused but he didn’t go around killing people. Im sorry but I’m not going to excuse his behavior just because he was abused.

    Nishinoyasthunderstorm January 11, 2021 1:13 pm
    Again, I’m reading this because I like the story. I do care about the fact that Seungho was abused, but it doesn’t make what he’s doing right. Have you read Killing Stalking? If you have, do you also excu... Mimi420

    It's obvious u have made up ur mind on how u want to interprete this story and that cool , I have mine to at the end of the day they gonna end up together and I'm gonna be happy about it . Thanks for the talk

    Mimi420 January 11, 2021 1:53 pm
    It's obvious u have made up ur mind on how u want to interprete this story and that cool , I have mine to at the end of the day they gonna end up together and I'm gonna be happy about it . Thanks for the talk Nishinoyasthunderstorm

    And that’s fine with me. You can be happy with how you want to interpret the story and I can do the same.

Mimi420 January 10, 2021 10:53 am

So here’s the thing. I’m a fat person and I love the fact that we can see the FL try to reduce weight and actually exercise. Most Manhuas usually have the girl be sick for like 2 months and then they’re skinny. Would I have like it if they left her fat? Yeah, but at the same time, I can see that she’s doing it for the right reasons and not just she wants to be skinny’s.

    bumblebee January 10, 2021 11:17 am

    Also from a fat person.its nice to see that fl doesn't magically loose weight after a time skip and becomes pretty or smthing.

    Dantalion January 10, 2021 12:31 pm

    Yeah, I also love the detail at the start of the chapter, where they let you see how much she weighs trough her journey

    Achaca January 10, 2021 2:12 pm

    I am also thick, I can't agree more!

Mimi420 December 27, 2020 7:04 pm

Can someone please explain to the class as to whether or not this is incest???

    otakuness December 27, 2020 7:06 pm

    no its not. they're childhood friends but their parents got remarried to each other

Mimi420 December 26, 2020 9:19 pm

So I’m sure that I’m not the only one that thinks that this relationship is toxic.... like really tucking toxic.....

    Fujoshi December 26, 2020 10:02 pm

    Sorry but ur the only one ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    selena December 26, 2020 11:03 pm
    Sorry but ur the only one ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Fujoshi

    she's not lol i think so too and very manipulative

    Asakarei December 26, 2020 11:04 pm

    Don't listen to those rude people , yeah , IT IS TOXIC, no need to deny it

Mimi420 December 21, 2020 11:14 am

Found the raws cause most of these stuff are jumbled about
https://boylove.cc/home/book/capter/id/45808

Mimi420 December 11, 2020 7:18 am

Mans has the ugliest tattoo I’ve ever seen. I cackled for a good 2 minutes. Shit is mad ugly

    olivster December 11, 2020 7:20 am

    I FUCKING BUSTED OUT. It’s really hideous leopard ass cheek

Mimi420 November 27, 2020 10:33 am

How come no one’s updating this one??

    Rebeca November 27, 2020 1:48 pm

    I do not know either. ╥﹏╥

    im addicted:D November 27, 2020 5:16 pm
    I do not know either. ╥﹏╥ Rebeca

    I’ve reread this like 20371936283718468 times :00 I wonder what happened

Mimi420 November 24, 2020 6:49 pm

No offense but why did the translators change?? It was such a good story and the English was good, but now I can beastly understand the damn thing. This is so annoying

    urara November 27, 2020 4:10 pm

    Yes, exactly, although I appreciate the good intentions of the 2nd translators, they utterly spoiled the story. Not only the poor level of English but the real meaning of the statements and the names. So confusing.
    I volunteer as a proofreader!!

Mimi420 September 25, 2020 2:21 pm

If y’all still ship them, then you’ve probably never been in a toxic relationship or you glorify it. This whole thing is toxic and the fact that you’re still trying to see some light in him is disgusting

    Read stigma September 25, 2020 2:28 pm

    Well cant help but ship them cos this is their story. Lol the day i stop shipping them is the day i stop reading this manhwa. Are you still reading this?

    Min_Taki September 25, 2020 2:31 pm

    This is only a fictional story and since it is mainly about these two, let people ship them. It ain’t that deep

    irunirunio September 25, 2020 2:39 pm

    why are you still reading it of you don't like it so much? lol It's been 54 chapters...Stop comparing it to modern reality!!! Nobody approves of toxic relashionship it's just a different era with a master and a lowborn. thanks god most people here understood it by now...

    Mimi420 September 25, 2020 2:48 pm
    Well cant help but ship them cos this is their story. Lol the day i stop shipping them is the day i stop reading this manhwa. Are you still reading this? Read stigma

    I don’t read this anymore. My friend told me what had happened so I came back after a while.

    Mimi420 September 25, 2020 2:49 pm
    This is only a fictional story and since it is mainly about these two, let people ship them. It ain’t that deep Min_Taki

    It is deep when you literally see people wanting this kind of relationship. Do you know what kids read these? Do you know that people wish for this? And people have gone through this? So I’m sorry if I think it’s too deep

    Mimi420 September 25, 2020 2:50 pm
    why are you still reading it of you don't like it so much? lol It's been 54 chapters...Stop comparing it to modern reality!!! Nobody approves of toxic relashionship it's just a different era with a master and a... irunirunio

    If you read the comments, you’d realize that most of them are still shipping them and don’t realize the abuse. I don’t read it anymore but it doesn’t mean I cannot voice my opinion on something I think is wrong.

    Read stigma September 25, 2020 3:01 pm
    I don’t read this anymore. My friend told me what had happened so I came back after a while. Mimi420

    Oh okay then. Well uhm goodluck finding fluffy ones i guess. Youre really affected by this huh? So if this is a trigger for you then yeah you should stop reading for your mental health. I just wanna say that i (i cant vouch for other people) am not unsympathetic or belittling people who have been thru toxic rels. its just that im detached enough that i know this is 2d i guess? Well all i can say is people are affected by diff things. So dont say it like "people are so disgusting for liking this" cos it kinda rankles. As for kids reading this, i have always thought that 13yrs below or even 15 yrs old below shouldnt use this site yet. The things people see here! Omg lol

    Mimi420 September 25, 2020 3:49 pm
    Oh okay then. Well uhm goodluck finding fluffy ones i guess. Youre really affected by this huh? So if this is a trigger for you then yeah you should stop reading for your mental health. I just wanna say that i ... Read stigma

    Okay, I’ll admit that I was wrong in the way I worded it. I meant that the relationship between them was disgusting, I just didn’t say it well. I can handle stuff like this, and I also see the good in people, just not when people actually find a way to see beauty in stuff like this.

    Read stigma September 25, 2020 4:29 pm
    Okay, I’ll admit that I was wrong in the way I worded it. I meant that the relationship between them was disgusting, I just didn’t say it well. I can handle stuff like this, and I also see the good in peopl... Mimi420

    Yeah. I feel so sorry for nakyum too ╥﹏╥ all i can wish for now is seunghos character development. Soooon please. Like next chapter soon!

    And i just want to recommend lover boy to you. Since youre going to stop ready this. Its one of my faves. Hihi

    inkcollector September 25, 2020 4:40 pm
    Yeah. I feel so sorry for nakyum too ╥﹏╥ all i can wish for now is seunghos character development. Soooon please. Like next chapter soon! And i just want to recommend lover boy to you. Since youre going ... Read stigma

    Um excuse me but isn't lover boy also quite toxic?

    Read stigma September 25, 2020 4:49 pm
    Um excuse me but isn't lover boy also quite toxic? inkcollector

    Yeah. But not as much as POTN. Since mimi did say mimi can handle stuff like this. Lover boyll be cake walk compared to POTN. Haha

Mimi420 September 25, 2020 1:24 pm

Not y’all still defending SH after everything. Like what are y’all on?!?!!

    mhny15 September 25, 2020 1:26 pm

    idk if i can ever ship them...like ik in those old times abuse was normal but like i just don’t think i can bring myself or actually ship them in the future when or if things develop

    Mimi420 September 25, 2020 2:16 pm
    idk if i can ever ship them...like ik in those old times abuse was normal but like i just don’t think i can bring myself or actually ship them in the future when or if things develop mhny15

    Me too. I’ve never shipped them because of the rape thing so I understand. It just irks me when people still see reason to ship them when there’s so much toxic energy between them

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