If there's any god out there in the world this manhwa will end with Jaekyung getting caught for cycling gear, shaving his head, going into the mountains to become a Shaolin monk, and far away from Dan so he can never unleash his HGH seme rage on him again.
Dude is there like a different version of the novel that I don’t know about, because the second side story on Bomtoon doesn’t have any dog stuff. It’s just about Jooyeon being like “I can’t believe you have psychological problems because of what *I* did to you!!!” And then giving him a big ass sybian sex machine so he doesn’t get separation anxiety. Is this some kind of Pokémon-style version exclusive like Yeokjisaji: Bestiality and Yeokjisaji: Fucking Machine?????
If there really are two versions, one hardcore and the other somewhat mellowed then I don’t understand that how a sex machine will help someone cope with loneliness and self harm. Like how the fuck? Where’s the damn logic? Did you read with google translate? Or is it legit?
I read it on the official site. Paid money for it and everything. Idk, it would probably sound more credible on my end if someone could corroborate it but the gist of the story is that Jiwook develops extreme separation anxiety and starts obsessively self-harming so that Jooyeon will worry about him. And he keeps having auditory hallucinations that can only be remedied with medication, but he keeps getting tempted to stop using it so that Jooyeon will get angry. So Jooyeon concludes the way to fix the problem is to calm him down with sex, and he buys a fucking machine (I know, the logic is not in the room with us rn) and after using it to overstimulate Jiwook until he passes out, Jooyeon concludes that they’ve found a solution that benefits both of them. I was like ok. sure. BL logic or whatever. It’s explained by saying Jiwook can no longer be satisfied with regular sex but it made me chuckle to think that severe mental illness can be fought with dildos.
OMG it corroborates so much with the dog storyline. In the other version, Jooyeon brings a dog for Jiwook to help him calm down. Then he watches the surveillance video of Jiwook using the dog to lick his hole while masturbating when he is alone at home and Jooyeon confronts him about it. In his inner monologue, he is not angry but rather he is happy that he’s found something that can satisfy both him and Jiwook. He makes jiwook understand through beastiality scene that his body now wants degrading sex and stimulation.
I believe that is why there are contradictory reviews, with people saying there is dog scene and some saying there is not. I think author might have changed it after the backlash or Boomtoon has a restriction for some certain topics so the author had to create two versions for this particular plot.
Geez how fucked up that they still opted to created a more fucked up version. And for whom? More deranged people? Disgusting.
So the whole plot is exactly the same, hallucinations, trying self harm and suicide attempts to see Jiwook shaken and worrying about him, the medicines, and then finally dog but in this version it’s a sex machine.
There's likely two versions and I'm inclined to believe that the original one is the one with the dog. The spoiler-filled review from 2023 talked about it, I tried to dig it up on Twitter and while there were no explicit mentions the two fans who actually kept up with the novel as it was being updated tweeted a dog GIF after the side story released and they also talked about a dog after. The raws someone posted here had it in side story 2, and in the free raws site, a user talked about a dog scene.
I'm assuming that the current or revised version is the one with the machine. The user in the free raws site ended up clarifying things with another user that "I just saw it, it was originally in the side story but it was edited" regarding the dog scene. I just had no idea what the hell replaced the dog because no one talked about it so this all checks out. I got no idea if the version sold on Ridi was edited but I guess this confirms that the one sold on Bomtoon was. There was a notice back then stating which chapters were edited but it didn't seem to have side story 2 in it which made me extremely wary but I guess it really was edited.
At the very least, readers probably won't witness that insanity in manhwa form since I'm assuming the adaptation will follow the revised version with the machine instead. Still gives me the ick despite the revision though if only because the original one is so fucked up.
This also makes me believe that the author just took a premise of sexual assault revenge to fulfil a torture porn plot for the culprit with various degrees of depravity and humiliation. I actually applaud the korean netizens who boycotted this work since it actually resembles the nth room case.
This novel had no depth portraying the trauma of victims rather it just served as a convenient tool to depict such disgusting acts that it is horrifying. I personally believe that psychological novels are not bad. They are just another type of media that has a certain audience. But this is not psychological. It’s something I wish never existed.
LMFAOOOOOOOOO honestly I doubt it was changed because of the controversy. Bomtoon is still hard endorsing the series and it's doing pretty well for a new release. I think the revision was made because someone on the adaptation team was like "woah, too much cringe, I can handle all the other fucked up stuff but not the dog stuff." which is also super funny. The standards for content is beyond my mortal imagination.
Honestly, I don't blame the adaptation team because the dog stuff was truly too much. I get them. Everything happening before that was all within the yaoi wheelhouse so no surprises or anything. Not being able to stomach all that after reading that summary and knowing about Sabeau BL is lmao. The surprise dog, however...
Violence is fine, that happens even in mainstream manga. Rape and gangrape are in every other yaoi comic so that's also whatever. Same goes for confinement, kidnapping and blackmail. Hell even gore can be passable. Bestiality though?? Uhh, insta drop I fear. The dog stuff is so unusual and too fucked up especially when you have pets so I get them. Something something I can excuse violence but I draw the line at animal cruelty something something.
I recall bomtoon said they'll change a few stuff because of koreans hating it
guess my reaction after reading this whole conversation like what the fuck is this shit
Your 100% right. This author tends to write asshole-type characters then has the sadistic seme "put them in their place" by blackmailing and r*ping them. Like, that's their whole shtick
No fucking way he football tackled him like an NFL player dogpiling over a fumble. At this point Brett isn't even a power bottom anymore he's just the penis terminator.
Amazing use of words. Congrats
they should frame this and put it in a museum
You know that meme that goes “when I’m beating the shit out of him and catch a glimpse of my insane face card in his tears” ?
That’s basically the chapter in a nutsack.
helppp
I don’t go here but do you guys remember that time Mingwa blocked someone for editing Jaekyung to be bald? Very funny and I think we should all just imagine him bald when he’s being a diva.
Is this real lmfaoooaoso
Yeah, it was truly tragic. Silencing some of the greatest artists of our generation because you don’t like their bald Jaekyung edit? For shame. (I can’t find the specific one but if you look up Bald Jaekyung you can find so many edits)
These edits are the light in my day lmaaaoooshhahsfhhs
I feel kind of bad for the people who read the first few chapters when the story was only six chapters long and dropped it thinking it was just some cheap shovelware noncon plot. Obviously it's not a perfect relationship but I've never seen omegaverse yaoi done like these two quirked up white boys do it.
True its shame many dropped it thinking earlier chp were rape while it was plan of brett all along
Lol. True. I forgot all about the rape. Lol.
It was consensual, brett planned it and it's one sided thinking by Hayden that he raped brett so he approach him again even in that situation or any other Brett always has upper hand in physical strength to mind games. That also sometimes pissed off Hayden that he don't want to play to his rhythm and denied bread crumbs brett spread were plan and Hayden knew about it and do it on his own.
When Hayden attacked him the first time he dodn y'know it was "planned". In his mind he was a rapist.
*didn't know
Yah but later brett explained his plan on that drink scene and Hayden got pissed that not everything will go your way
This seems like a lot of effort for some situationship dick....hmmm....
Have you considered that its the perfect situationship dick /j /lh
NO BUT FR
Okay, so Reverse Thinking has been a hot topic on Korean bltwt because of some rumors that it’s based on the nth room crimes, that the story involves the sexual abuse of women, illegal filming, incest, and bestiality. People have been calling for a boycott and such. So I spoke with a Korean friend of mine who read the novel to verify how true these things are, and I want to share what I found out: So first of all, there is no violence against women. Or at least none shown onscreen. There is no incest or bestiality (the latter of which I’m not even sure is allowed on Bomtoon). There is however, significant violence and illegal filming perpetrated against the mc. It’s a very cut and dry blackmail/revenge story. Albeit an extremely hardcore one. There are two gang rape scenes and imprisonment. I also want to say it is COMPLETELY understandable to be weirded out or distressed by these themes and not want to touch the story, however I wanted to make this post because there’s a lot of misinformation surrounding it. At it’s core, this is just a story about violent things happening to dudes. The reason I believe it’s important to make this distinction is because while many Korean bl fans have a high tolerance for problematic themes such as abuse and rape, they aren’t fine with seeing it happen to women. The reason is because Korea is obviously a pretty misogynistic country, so Korean bl fans treat bl as a form of escapist fiction where women can’t be hurt. (Not saying I agree with this mentality) But anyways, I hope this post gives a little insight and encourages you to think about the story from other perspectives regardless of whether or not you want to read it.
Vague spoilers below for anyone interested:
For anyone who’s read Sono Kuchibiru ni Yoru no Tsuyu, the plot is very similar except with less public transit.
Would u mind spoiling on how the story ends? If u know? I typically can look past rape as long as the ending is good or person redeems themself in some way in stories. So I wanna know if this worth continuing..:
Do you know what is he taking the revenge for? What did the MC do before?
Correct me if im wrong but the kr side is saying that the manhwa had made modifications and cut out scenes that involved the similarities to the nth room scandal. The bottom would r word women by drugging them (cant consent if your drugged) and secretly film them. Even if the manhwa does not have it the novel originally used these topics.
Im not sure if this is misinformation as well. But this is what kr side has been telling
All not sure what to trust in the end everyone is saying different things so im just not gonna touch it
Hi! I'm not too sure about the manhwa "cutting out" scenes because it only has five chapters so far and those five chapters have been very faithful to what's in the novel according to my friend. There isn't any drugging or assaulting WOMEN in the story but plenty of fucked up stuff happens to men. Like I said, I think it's understandable for people to be put off by themes of blackmail and illegal filming (since those are things that are sadly very prevalent in Korea) but what puzzles me is that those aren't very uncommon tropes in BL. In my opinion the reason a lot of people are so angry about the story is that they believe that misogynistic crimes are happening to women when it's really more Jiwook using derogatory language towards Jooyeon because he looks feminine. But I totally get it if you don't want to read it. Shit's crazy and violent as fuck.
From what I understand, in the novel, there are no women but uke will gonna suffer from hell.
Not sure but some people on the internet were saying that all the outrage was because they thought there were women involved. But they wouldn't have any problems if it was done to a man.
Hey instead of banding together and marching the capital lets trivilaise men being raped!
Men will never band with women to the extend that we want anyway
dang mangago ate up my reply. but funny you say that. President Yoon is a notorious misogynist who tried to axe MOGEF because he's delusional and thinks feminism is going to destroy the nation, so maybe writing insane noncon porn is like their way of rejecting the system. But who knows, they could also be storming the barricade while writing torture porn. #Feminism #Productivity
I think it’s darkly funny that Harada has shown to have the writing ability to delve more seriously into Reo’s abuse of Kuzuya, since she’s made absolute psychological bangers, but deliberately chooses to keep writing the world’s longest rape joke. Like yes there TECHNICALLY could be a dialogue about how violence reshapes the body and how Kuzuya internalizes it to the point where it’s implied he seeks Reo out for physical pleasure because he’s accustomed to it. But Harada is like “Anyways guys here’s an eldritch god thing granting wishes. Kuzuya’s dick is 36 inches long all of a sudden.”
But anyways I don’t think people should be reading this expecting the story to suddenly be serious about its dark topics. It was hammered in pretty effectively for me seeing Kasuya making Kuzuya apologize for being raped in chapter 4 and everyone watching idly as Reo kisses him as he sobs and struggles. Harada is a uniquely self-aware BL artist and I think she knows very well how constantly injecting levity into Kuzuya’s abuse in a way makes HKL darker than many of her other works.
What I love about how Harada handles the long running Leo/Kuzuya rape joke is that she doesn't minimize the rape. The rape itself is not the punchline. Just look how graphic and violent Kuzuya's class race story is, it makes the viewers wince just as hard as it makes Kasuya wince.
The punchline is the aburdity of how Kuzuya's rape is handled, the way it doesn't get caught or punished, how Leo is so delulu that he thinks it love the whole time, and how because of it Kuzuya ends up screwing the whole family and now works for his rapist
"Comedy is tragedy plus time" (Mark Twain). "Comedy is merely tragedy happening to somebody else" (W.C fields)
Well actually Kuzuya's rape not being punished or caught isn't the comedic part (she doesn't depict that aspect as being funny)... but yeah, Harada's the goat
I agree! The dichotomy between the violence of what’s happening to Kuzuya vs the way it’s been normalized to everyone in the story is a deliberate attempt at absurd comedy on Harada’s part. Personally it’s not very funny to me at all and makes me quite sad, but what is funny is Harada’s commitment to being unserious while delivering such bleak material.
I like how Harada uses Kuzuya's trauma with Reo/Leo as a mirror for Kasuya's shittiness. When Kasuya's laughing at Kuzuya's expense or being envious of his dicking down by Reo/Leo, we're meant to feel disgusted with Kasuya. And it's fantastic when Harada makes a joke out of Kasuya's hypocrisy (Kasuya wetting his pants when actually man handled by Reo/Leo, despite proclaiming to be envious of Kuzuya). It's like a nice rebuttal of all those who minimize SA (kind of like a, experience it yourself and see if you can still feel the same type situation).
As for the other characters that are aware of the situation, namely Reo/Leo's family (or hole-family as Kasuya would say), it's implied that they are apologetic about what Reo/Leo did, hence the willingness to hire a NEET like Kazuya. Obviously that's not enough but it also seems like Kazuya doesn't seem interested in getting the justice he deserves...
Well, I guess the Dad was willing to hire Kuzuya even before finding out but overall based on the reactions during that whole family schbang it looked like they were apologetic (but unwilling to prosecute flesh and blood lol)
Yeah but definitely right that overall weak reactions from other characters to Reo/Leo's behavior towards Kuzuya shows how SA is kind of normalized by the characters themselves. But I'd like to think that Harada doesn't let us, the viewers, forget, because she fully shows Kuzuya's terror and aspects of his trauma. Definitely agree that the juxtaposition makes the manga darker.
It’s so over man. Brett compartmentalizing his feelings after his assault is so in character but it’s making me fall over and shrivel up like a yaoi raisin. Like he just walked it off to show up to his date on time. I want him to get all the guys involved and attach them ballsack-first to a car battery but the tradfujo in me wants Hayden to find out so we can see the most diabolical crashout of all time.
There's no way Hayden doesn't find out.
wait, what happened?
tradfujo +1
You can find a more detailed summary if you scroll through the comments a bit!
But basically Brett is kidnapped and sexually assaulted by people that were presumably sent by Nathan’s dad after Alexander’s witness list was leaked.
Gotta remember my roots
oh noo that's horrible ... D: