SkitKat12 March 15, 2017 1:32 am

I never get shocked like this when it comes to who's top and bottom it's normally very obvious but I've only ever had one other manga do this and HOT DANG they were both smoking! I love it when the dominant one is well... dominated... I get why hide(?) was the uke because he technically has no experience? and his way of thinking is he needs to be like a woman to compete with the exes. Maybe? Also being the one entered also holds a lot of power in a way. You're giving all of the pleasure and it's especially important when being two men because the bottom always experiences some sort of pain and he just wanted him to feel pleasure not pain. Besidised his personality is a little like a girls aha. An extremely bitch girl but still a girl X'D

SkitKat12 February 13, 2017 2:17 am

after reading chapter 19 i feel like they are soul mates no joke.... this is so bloody messed up but i think i became detached after the first three chapters im just purely curious now. I feel like something might happen to the cop but soo(something) is to smart for that it would be bum who did something. I'm feeling a very harley quinn and joker vibe from this but we shall see XD.

    Me February 13, 2017 4:15 am

    I rather think it's Sangwoo working rather hard to make himself a soulmate. He didn't drive the knife this time, but he sure as heck spent time and efforst grooming Bum for that.
    ...Remember, Patty Hearst, anyone?

    MikaYuu February 13, 2017 4:22 am

    They are meant for each other after reading chapter 19 no doubt.

    Me February 13, 2017 4:32 am
    They are meant for each other after reading chapter 19 no doubt. MikaYuu

    ...Yeah.
    But... what if Sangwoo meets another serial killer? Would Bum then have a rival??
    J/k... sorry. I guess I've just stopped taking this seriously, as a way to keep my own sanity..
    O.o

    Anonymous February 13, 2017 6:07 am
    I rather think it's Sangwoo working rather hard to make himself a soulmate. He didn't drive the knife this time, but he sure as heck spent time and efforst grooming Bum for that....Remember, Patty Hearst, anyon... @Me

    I don't think Bum needed much grooming, more like a few shoves to make him into a psychotic killer. He was already crazy stalker dude who was mentally unstable. Grooming literary takes ages to do, Bum had it in him, he just didn't know it.

    Anonymous February 13, 2017 6:24 am
    I don't think Bum needed much grooming, more like a few shoves to make him into a psychotic killer. He was already crazy stalker dude who was mentally unstable. Grooming literary takes ages to do, Bum had it in... @Anonymous

    I agree!!!

    Me February 13, 2017 6:32 am
    I don't think Bum needed much grooming, more like a few shoves to make him into a psychotic killer. He was already crazy stalker dude who was mentally unstable. Grooming literary takes ages to do, Bum had it in... @Anonymous

    Somehow I think Sangwoo forced him into a crash course that would otherwise have taken years to happen, if at all...I mean, aren't there any petty stalkers who never evolve to sth worse, or even get better with treatment? (I honestly don't know). I even imagine he *could* have been given some timely treatment if Sangwoo had turned out to be a Psychiatry major, sane college student, rather than an active serial killer... I mean, seriously, what were the chances of that??

    MikaYuu February 13, 2017 7:44 am
    ...Yeah.But... what if Sangwoo meets another serial killer? Would Bum then have a rival??J/k... sorry. I guess I've just stopped taking this seriously, as a way to keep my own sanity..O.o @Me

    XD a rival, but it's quite obvious how Sangwoo loves and needs Bum. I love when Sangwoo was freaking out in chapter 13 because from then on I knew that he will not kill Bum. Still I would like to see a jealous Sangwoo. Just remember it's fiction so it's harmless and your sanity will be good :)

    Anonymous February 13, 2017 7:47 am
    Somehow I think Sangwoo forced him into a crash course that would otherwise have taken years to happen, if at all...I mean, aren't there any petty stalkers who never evolve to sth worse, or even get better with... @Me

    Well if this wasnt a psycho dude he fell in love with, and just some nice guy. It would have probably taken a few therapy lesson to make him normal, but i wouldn't say 100 normal more like functioning type of normal. Bum wasn't a petty stalker, he was an obsessive stalker who wasn't stable in the mind. His reaction in high school with the girl who was some what nice was way to creepy, crazy and just plain phycho-ish. Her reaction was mean yes, but i wouldn't blame her though she was just scared.
    But ill be honest, if he didn't have therapy and he had a lover who never lifted a finger to help his crazy/creepy personality, it would have turned to murder in the future. How? Imagine his lover decides that he/she had enough with him, wants to leave him. He of course would let that happen, he would keep on bothering them, over and over and over again. Untill one day he snaps and desides that if he cant have them, than no one else can. If you mix Love with a Unhealthy-Mind that equivalent of that would be murder or kidnapping. Cause love makes anyone crazy, even the most sane ones. I seen some crazy reactions because of love.
    But of course this is my guess.

    Me February 13, 2017 9:17 am
    XD a rival, but it's quite obvious how Sangwoo loves and needs Bum. I love when Sangwoo was freaking out in chapter 13 because from then on I knew that he will not kill Bum. Still I would like to see a jealous ... MikaYuu

    I'd rather think he was mostly freaking out about Bum escaping and getting around reporting him to the police... I mean, even though I want to think he was also freaking out about losing his new love interest, and that he somewhat loves him, my practical side keeps interfering, slapping me back into thinking things with cold logic every time, once I'm done fangirling... -_-

    Me February 13, 2017 9:54 am
    Well if this wasnt a psycho dude he fell in love with, and just some nice guy. It would have probably taken a few therapy lesson to make him normal, but i wouldn't say 100 normal more like functioning type of n... @Anonymous

    I mostly agree, in a way. Except that I think his reaction in high school wasn't that bad of we contemplate the possibility that many of the things he did (like telling everyone they were dating, and about her being raped) could have been out of anger at the way she was suddenly acting like he was dirt and giving him the cold shoulder. Even though I don't blame her cause I understand why she did it, I bet Bum himself didn't have a clue. Perhaps, if someone had tried to explain it to him why she was acting that way, he would have understood it and not gotten so angry about it. I think what he missed was the fact that she was acting like that because she was probably dealing with post stress disorder, still blaming herself for the rapes, and mistakenly thinking that by not associating with him any more she would aliviate her own feelings of being dirty and worthless. Of course, she was wrong, but victims of incestuous rape tend to think they're somehow tainted or damaged and to feel horribly ashamed of themselves.

    Anoni Grrl February 13, 2017 4:18 pm
    Well if this wasnt a psycho dude he fell in love with, and just some nice guy. It would have probably taken a few therapy lesson to make him normal, but i wouldn't say 100 normal more like functioning type of n... @Anonymous

    You have some great insights. I have thoughts on some of what you said. I don't think Bum's treatment outlook would be too hopeful either, unless they could get him into a supportive environment with a nurturing social structure that had people who cared about him like family should and participated in therapy and make sure he makes his meds (and I think there would be meds). Even then, you can only hope for him to be more functional or progress and not expect a total "cure". Even in countries where mental heath cares is available, the family often has to advocate for the client's care and support the client in day to day life--and that rarely happens unless the family gives a crap.

    I don't think anything would "cure" Sangwoo because he is not capable of empathy or seeing more than how he wants to play out his internal dramas--the most you can do is remove him from society so he cannot harm others. I do think Bum has a special role in Sangwoo's mind. I don't mean that he sees Bum as a person or cares about Bum more than himself--just that bum has been given a central role in his dramas, and he has evolved to include Bum. I don't think Sangwoo is cable of seeing others as being as important as himself or of developing feelings such as guilt or having a real sense of morality. It's just not even possible for him. This is different than Bum's prior mental illness.

    I think Bum's prior condition was more of a harm to himself than to anyone else. He was mentally ill and completely lacking in self-care and social skills, but before this, he was not a danger to others. The kind of problem that happened in high school happens a lot in high school, even for "normal' teens (snort--normal teens-hahaha), especially when people change friendships and negotiate who they want to date, and many lack skills to do this nicely. Both his and her reactions were understandable, because they both lack skills to process emotions well and negotiate social interactions effectively. Bum and the girl should probably both have had therapy, but the key is support from a family (or group that acts like family) that is understanding about mental illness and well, Bum's family isn't that--it's a cause of his problems so...

    Most people with mental illnesses are not dangerous to others, but they make others uncomfortable because they seem "weird" or "creepy". Being stalked by an ex has a much higher rate of harm. In fact, the worst situation is to be stalked by an abusive ex. They tend to kill people. So, in my mind the "normal" stalker is much worse than the socially inept obsessive delusional one.

    Me February 13, 2017 6:20 pm
    You have some great insights. I have thoughts on some of what you said. I don't think Bum's treatment outlook would be too hopeful either, unless they could get him into a supportive environment with a nurturin... Anoni Grrl

    You have an excellent point there. Cases of real ex-boyfriend stalkers are said to be more frequent.

    SkitKat12 February 14, 2017 2:26 am

    I actually agree with all of you, Bum probably could have been "cured" but if left to himself he would have probably killed someone and then perhaps himself. Where as soo(?) could never be cured.... I think he's an ego maniac who loves harming people. Bum is somewhat important to him. Like his mum was. Bum is someone who he can torment but also be worshiped by because Bum is after all a stalker and he "loves" him so much. He feeds off this and in a sense he's his child- Someone who worships him and someone he can groom. Someone who'll flinch when they do something but then slowly start to trust you when you don't and that's the best part. They trust you and then you shatter that trust and see their face crumble. The reality that you were able to cause that much EMOTIONAL pain is overwhelmingly good. Physical pain heals quickly emotional not so much. Bum is also someone who he can "impress" with his kills. After all isn't he a criminal like himself? I think he's the one who set up that rape situation in the army. I think he set it ALL up. He's been after Bum for a very long time. Weird how they were always in the same place. Sure Bums a stalker but not always to him. He's really been played. We've seen how intelligent he is. He's ruled by his mind not his emotions where as bum is the opposite. He feels and doesn't stop to think what it is he feels. He just thinks "LOVE" He knows what's being done to him isnt right somewhere in his mind but he's to ruled by his emotinos to think . Sure each oppertunity was risky but with the right amount of thinking he could have escaped. I know he has stockholm at the moment but it's much more than that. The psychopath will probably push bum to far one day though he is actually the most stupid of the two (When it comes to their relationship) he thinks Bum is his and he wouldn't dare betray him or lash out at him. After all why would he hurt his very reason to live? He'll think it's okay to carry on sleeping with other people while knowing full well how Bum feels- Obsessive. He'll think he's to loved though for Bum to do anything not realising what true emotions are like. He's never actually experienced them. He's ruled my logic. "You enjoy that Bum? Flirting with him" (Not his actual words but close). Here he's mearly observed. We all know how violent he can go when Bum does something he dislikes but he isn't all that upset here. Just mearly inquiring . Oh I'm sure he did feel jealously but he ignores emotions like that. His will forever be ruled by cold logic. The best way I can describe it is- His emotions are a small camp fire with a bucket of sand close by.
    Bums emotions are all consuming and they destroy everything in their path. They are his driving force. And soo (I dont know his last night fgs) is only fueling the flames. Soon he will push Bum to far. Heres what I think could happen-

    Bum actually finds someone else to love- The police officer maybe? Someone kind and loving and to punish Bum soo (Thats his new name lmao) will capture them and try to force Bum to kill them not realising the true extent to Bums emotinos and he'll end up the one dead.

    Next scenerio- He sleeps with people in front of Bum for a long period of time and each time he does he sees Bum snapping. He finds it funny watching Bum kill the people he's slept with until one day Bum turns the knife either on himself out of despaire of Soo. He'll either kill soo or soo will be enraged and kill him.

    Orrrr
    With Bum being ruled by emotion he makes a mistake and gives the detective the evidence he needs. Soo knowing they will both get sent to prison tells Bum to say he was a victim of his. Here the author would shock the readers because they'd show how soo had started everything because he'd been in love with Bum for YEARS. They'd make it sad and tragic. HE DOES HAVE EMOTION! kinda thing.

    Sorry for writing so much. This is just my opinion and speculation though.

SkitKat12 January 16, 2017 2:12 am

So the two guys do look very similar but i don't think they are the same people. The baker guy only seems off because he's well..... He's a very mellow and nice guy who has a huge sex drive which is a weird combo. (Calm personality makes us think calm sex ) so calm personality and wild sex is a WOAH!! thing when in reality he's a nice guy. The other guy..... He's the sleazy kind that I'm hoping mr baker hits or even the neko hits (Defo neko his eyes! -his eyes make him seem like a cat-) and well I don't think they're the same guy and I wanted to defend the baker guy aha I think he's just intense is all. Poor neko though ;_; I think the baker reminds him of the Ex? because he's very dominant and he obviously got dominated in the past and the obvious- Looks.

SkitKat12 December 15, 2016 2:52 am

poor tsmugi (Spelt the name wrong lol) i feel so damn bad on him he just wants love ....

SkitKat12 December 14, 2016 1:01 am

I've read some of the artists mangas and I feel like us not seeing the son grown up and his partner was maybe a sign that she's either working on his story or we've met his husband in another manga of hers.... Just a thought lol... Probably not X'D I think the dad might have ended up with the black haired guy ... It's something this author would do.. "I fell in love with my sons first love" kind of thing. Y'know?

SkitKat12 September 1, 2016 4:43 am

(just my opinion really). I really like this story. It's one that makes you think and question your self. (Me for instance. I'm all for commitment and only one partner but I found this manga was able to .. change my views. At least for this story). The main Characters were a Devil and his Bride who sadly died trying to create the perfect tea for him *sobs* but out of grief? The devil starts to make bargains with humans. You give me your life force and I'll grant you your greatest desire. And so his Bride could breathe and well exist. Heart and eyes were next and so forth. And for each time he made a deal you were shown WHY the human was giving away their soul to the devil. Now... For the angel and jya? WTF! He better be messing around and better not hurt that cute mofo. Seriously NO ONE hurts little Angel he's so cute and yet he's badass in his own way. Not many of the well feminine men said NO! I don't trust you! and stuck their tongues out haha. He's got guts and because of this I feel like they're being built up so that when they fall it'll be so sad... Okay back to the main characters... The devils bride can actually "grow up" and his personality is....bad. Different from his once innocent self however you can tell he truly loves his devil. Deeply. (Although the kiss between the angel and him was priceless haha).

    greenrain September 2, 2016 3:30 am

    Yup, I love this story. Normally I hate the girly boy yaoi but this is an exception. And I love it for all of the reasons you listed. Very well written story that make ppl really think. I'll definitely buy this.

    Little_Ladybug September 2, 2016 9:03 pm

    TL;DR

SkitKat12 July 15, 2016 1:16 am

I normally hate these type of stories because the seme normally makes it obvious that he's in love with the ukeand the ukes a slut so nothing comes off it accept a half assed story and heartache but in this story the seme just... Meh...shrugs it off/ Sure he gets jealous but the uke might just see that as someone getting angry that their thing is being taken away. The uke it making it obvious hes testing the seme... I don't think he actually likes any of those other guys I mean he flirted with them while the seme was with him.... He's just playing the jealousy game.

    Vibe2964 July 15, 2016 2:22 pm

    I think and hope that too.

SkitKat12 July 8, 2016 11:52 pm

Haru is probably the uke i mean Ren acted like a seme would in that situation. He just aint cut out for it. Als Haru has more of a... "I dont gaf" kind of attitude but time will tell... On things for sure- By time haru is fully grown hes going to be a babe.

    SkitKat12 July 8, 2016 11:52 pm

    When ren grows up... Lmao

    Hani July 9, 2016 2:10 am

    Yess ik lol i keep thinking that. I want haru to be the seme but if he keeps waiting ren will be a sexy seme.

    MEI July 9, 2016 3:43 am

    Ren got the fingers up his ass tho

    Anonymous July 9, 2016 4:00 am

    I bet its going to be a reversal.

    I think once Haru does Ren, Ren will probably want to do Haru.

    But I have been wrong every time I say something, so anything can happen

    Hani July 10, 2016 7:55 am
    Ren got the fingers up his ass tho MEI

    I just have a feeling ren will be seme later on. But kinda want him to be uke cuz haru look so sexy.

    SkitKat12 July 12, 2016 11:52 pm
    Yess ik lol i keep thinking that. I want haru to be the seme but if he keeps waiting ren will be a sexy seme. Hani

    Yeah if Haru had just ugh...done him when he asked I think he would have been uke but I seriously think Ren will be Seme now. Also to the person who said he got a finger up his ass (Lol) So do some semes in mangas...you know where the uke tries to reverse things and the semes like... OUCH! Wth man! and then sweet stuff happens after X''D But in all seriousness though Rens more of a seme than HARU. I just thinl Haru has more experience so he comes across as the dominant one.

    Hani July 13, 2016 12:05 am
    Yeah if Haru had just ugh...done him when he asked I think he would have been uke but I seriously think Ren will be Seme now. Also to the person who said he got a finger up his ass (Lol) So do some semes in man... SkitKat12

    Ohhh cant wait to see haru get fucked by ren

    SkitKat12 July 13, 2016 12:36 am
    Ohhh cant wait to see haru get fucked by ren Hani

    I just cant wait to see a grown up Ren <3

    Hani July 17, 2016 3:24 am
    I just cant wait to see a grown up Ren <3 SkitKat12

    Yesss

SkitKat12 April 30, 2016 2:16 am

I thought bdsm wasn't so much about drawing blood but more... I dunno... clamps and leather whips.... Like... I know theres different kinds but I felt like some things were abuse. Like smacking him and causing him to bleed was a little cringe worthy for me. The foot was okay . And I'm sorry but did anyone else notice how he just flung the butt plug away X'D. I hope no kid or dog finds that lmao. In fact I hope no one finds that XDDDDD

    Tolly April 30, 2016 2:44 am

    That was the point, this relationship wasn't working bc he wanted to hurt him and the stuff he did weren't to cause pleasure. Why Tobita didn't say anything then? Bc he'd anything to please Masumi. And that's so sad.

    Mameiha April 30, 2016 9:59 pm
    That was the point, this relationship wasn't working bc he wanted to hurt him and the stuff he did weren't to cause pleasure. Why Tobita didn't say anything then? Bc he'd anything to please Masumi. And that's... Tolly

    You are utterly clueless about BDSM. Tobito enjoyed the pain. It wasn't working because Masumi wanted a "normal" relationship and "normal" sex is unfulfilling to a person who has severe masochistic tendencies. I speak from intimate experience. I can't have "sweet" or "normal" sex. There is no turn on. Tobito is the same. Even though Masumi was turned on by the "rough" play he wanted to deny it and be "normal". Tobito recognized this and gave Masumi an out. Most people assume that the "violence" in BDSM is devoid of love, but nothing could be further from the truth. If your lover likes a foot massage and you give them one to the best of your ability, that is showing your love. For am M, they like pain - giving them what they enjoy to the best of your ability is also showing your love. There is so much more trust in a BDSM relationship than a "normal" one. In normal sex your life is not left entirely in the hands of your lover. The bond is very different.

    Tolly May 2, 2016 2:29 am
    You are utterly clueless about BDSM. Tobito enjoyed the pain. It wasn't working because Masumi wanted a "normal" relationship and "normal" sex is unfulfilling to a person who has severe masochistic tendencies. ... Mameiha

    I didn't say that violence is devoid of love, I said that in this case their aim was different. as you said, Masumi wanted something different and Tobito could tell that he wanted to hurt him bc he didn't feel the same way and not bc he was interesting it. That's the point. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Tolly May 2, 2016 2:30 am
    I didn't say that violence is devoid of love, I said that in this case their aim was different. as you said, Masumi wanted something different and Tobito could tell that he wanted to hurt him bc he didn't feel ... Tolly

    Interested in it* bad cellphone

SkitKat12 February 26, 2016 3:39 am

I thought the blonde one was going to end up with the oldest brother because well he's the only one that's not related to him through blood.... I did enjoy the manga but I can't get into it as much because they're brothers... It's a good story though.

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