Ispeaktomuch July 3, 2025 10:27 am

Mr alpha is fumbling. He’s got trauma from his past and he’s scared that he’s going to lose his most “important “ person. He’s always been aware that the beta likes him I think he’s just always bro zoned it. I think he noticed the beta as a man a lot sooner than he’s letting on and that’s why he avoided him so much during his ruts because he knew something would come off it. A little like when you’re drunk around your crush, you say dumb shi. So rn he’s not being very clear because he’s panicking. He thinks that by giving the beta what he wants he’ll stick around and I do think he’s doing it from a place of mutual feelings like he does love him but he’s gaslit himself for so long he’s struggling with that concept. But not only is he suddenly doing this he’s also changing his role in every aspect, he’s going from carer to boyfriend, from top to bottom. From the one in charge to the one completely vulnerable now.

    Koko July 3, 2025 4:48 pm

    Yea well I feel like he really didn't notice and even if he did he just ignored it, cause `mr Alpha` is he's literally care giver. He saw him as a family, and for me it looks like dude shat his pants when he realised beta has feelings for him. The whole relationship is a mess but at least alpha has decency to come to terms with it and find a way to figure things, and work it out. And yes it feels super forced tbh

Ispeaktomuch June 24, 2025 10:36 am

I don’t have this chapter actually. It was needed. Whilst MC was falling in love he was kinda deluding himself, I also thing the ml was doing the same. One was doing it for “love” and the other for his “love” so eventually it would have to end. I don’t think either one of them “enjoyed” that threesome even the twink (lol). ML is gonna use the “contract” as a way to keep the Mc away from the twink and I think it’s gonna come to a head once the twink finds out and I’m 100% certain the MC will arrange something for him to find out.

Ispeaktomuch June 5, 2025 12:20 am

This guy…poor kids going through it. Clearly suffering with some for, of psychosis and instead of helping him he’s just making it worse, I think that’s gonna be the point of this story though? It’s gonna get so much worse before it gets better

    Mgopjm June 7, 2025 9:26 pm

    Actually the ending isn’t bad, plus bro doesn’t need help, like he knows he’s as insane as rhe ML and he’s fine with it

    Ispeaktomuch June 8, 2025 1:59 am
    Actually the ending isn’t bad, plus bro doesn’t need help, like he knows he’s as insane as rhe ML and he’s fine with it Mgopjm

    Jesus Christ wdym he doesn’t need help?! He’s forgetting everything, in severe depression to the point he’s hallucinating and the ml is making it worse by triggering his triggers

    Mgopjm June 8, 2025 3:46 pm
    Jesus Christ wdym he doesn’t need help?! He’s forgetting everything, in severe depression to the point he’s hallucinating and the ml is making it worse by triggering his triggers Ispeaktomuch

    No like he ends up getting therapy but he tells the therapist that’s he’s going to keep acting a certain way to keep the ML tied to him. Like he’ll purposely do things that will piss the ML off just to keep him in check about not wanting to lose the MC, even the therapist was like wtf. Dude like he’s not as helpless as yall make out to be.

Ispeaktomuch June 3, 2025 1:51 am

I was always curious how an alpha wouldn’t know another man was an omega. Or even a beta due to the natural….juices? That happens but then this manga kinda gave me an insight- any man would instinctively use lube unless they were sure the body wouldn’t need it. Gay men and even some straight couples deffo need it so he just straight up lubed him up. Then ofc the author was also really good at covering the other loophole- taste. Author covered the texture part and so they were careful not to include the tongue lashing because I’m sorry….anyone would know the difference then between lube and natural. Even in fantasy so I’m glad this author actually showed that lol. Other mangas with similar tropes I just dropped because well…it’s dumb and you can’t mistake it for lube if it’s in a world without it anyway….thanks fofor reading my dumb af thoughts.

    naia June 3, 2025 4:44 am

    Gyuha was taking medications to suppress his omega trait and it affects his body functions that's why he's tall and buffed. But there was one time that he took the wrong medicine which makes omega trait stronger with high percentage of being fertile. Then he forgot to take his actual medicine and had sex with Chayoung in his rut. So I don't think Gyuha has that natural lube that you're talking about.

    SleepyCat June 3, 2025 9:22 am

    1. Betas in this author’s universe do get wet.
    2. You can see in chapter 16 that the MC gets wet after the ML gives him a blowjob.
    3. Not sure if it’s mentioned in the manhwa, but the ML does notice that the MC tends to get wetter than other betas that he’s been with, but it doesn’t strike him as odd enough to make him think that he might be an omega.

    Ispeaktomuch June 3, 2025 10:58 am
    1. Betas in this author’s universe do get wet. 2. You can see in chapter 16 that the MC gets wet after the ML gives him a blowjob. 3. Not sure if it’s mentioned in the manhwa, but the ML does notice that t... SleepyCat

    I think he meant with lube, there’s literally no reason why a male beta would get wet

    SleepyCat June 3, 2025 11:27 am
    I think he meant with lube, there’s literally no reason why a male beta would get wet Ispeaktomuch

    No, that’s not what he meant. In this author’s universe, male betas get wet naturally. Not all omegaverses are the same. It’s up to the author to make the rules for their story.

    elghosto June 3, 2025 7:05 pm

    - Gyuha had a surgery that altered his pheromones and basically masked most of his omega traits except his gay attraction that he thought was because he's an omega (even though there are technically female alphas)
    - male betas in this universe canget wet but not as much as omega or chayoung is just a dumb alpha that wasn't socialized to know the details of other sexes, so chayoung took gyuha's words for granted when he pointed out gyuha got wet. Also they've been having a threesome with that twink beta so maybe male betas can get wet
    - chayoung had always used lube instead of going in dry so gyuha always had a reason to chalk his juice of as "I already prepped" or "my body is just that sensitive, so I get wet that much even for a beta(see second point)"

    Ispeaktomuch June 4, 2025 12:51 am
    - Gyuha had a surgery that altered his pheromones and basically masked most of his omega traits except his gay attraction that he thought was because he's an omega (even though there are technically female alph... elghosto

    I think the dumb alpha thing is more likely, I understand that every universe is different but betas have always been the same they’re the definition of “us” ie the “norm”. The author makes a point of male omegas still being with female alphas because two men still isn’t “normal “ so why would betas (male ones) naturally get wet. Doesn’t add up

    SleepyCat June 4, 2025 1:29 am
    - Gyuha had a surgery that altered his pheromones and basically masked most of his omega traits except his gay attraction that he thought was because he's an omega (even though there are technically female alph... elghosto

    “chayoung is just a dumb alpha that wasn't socialized to know the details of other sexes, so chayoung took gyuha's words for granted when he pointed out gyuha got wet.”

    Except this scenario never happened. Gyuha never “explained” his wetness to the ML because betas getting wet is something that is known inside the story’s universe, so he never questioned it. When he notices that Gyuha gets wetter than other betas that he’s been with, we get this information in his internal monologue, it’s not a discussion between them.

    SleepyCat June 4, 2025 1:36 am
    I think the dumb alpha thing is more likely, I understand that every universe is different but betas have always been the same they’re the definition of “us” ie the “norm”. The author makes a point of... Ispeaktomuch

    “I understand that every universe is different”

    Do you? Because I think you’re struggling to understand that this one is… I would suggest reading more omegaverse. Betas are not always strictly regular humans like irl. In some omegaverses, they can have alpha or omega traits. It just depends on the author. Like, this really isn’t that unique.

    elghosto June 4, 2025 3:20 am
    “chayoung is just a dumb alpha that wasn't socialized to know the details of other sexes, so chayoung took gyuha's words for granted when he pointed out gyuha got wet.” Except this scenario never happened. ... SleepyCat

    i was just theorizing

    elghosto June 4, 2025 3:36 am
    “chayoung is just a dumb alpha that wasn't socialized to know the details of other sexes, so chayoung took gyuha's words for granted when he pointed out gyuha got wet.” Except this scenario never happened. ... SleepyCat

    TBF intersex is a thing and I imagine it's way more common in omegaverse so there might be alpha-leaning betas, omega-leaning betas, and true betas but it was never mentioned in the manhwa (tho idk about the novel since some artists don't go strictly by the book)

    Also, sexual organs aren't just for procreation, some anatomy variations can work as population control since ruts and heats give higher chance of mass pregnancy

    Ispeaktomuch June 4, 2025 11:10 pm
    “I understand that every universe is different”Do you? Because I think you’re struggling to understand that this one is… I would suggest reading more omegaverse. Betas are not always strictly regular hu... SleepyCat

    Because the logic is dumb af if that’s the case here, why make it a taboo to have a male x male when all males are biologically created to accept other males? Like…if you’re going create a universe and be different I’m down for it but have some logic behind it. My original post wasn’t actually dissing this story either btw, I was stating how some mangas they don’t have betas who get wet and the alphas never realise the omega isn’t a beta so I was praising this one, However you’ve pointed out s flaw so now imma have to wait to see if this is just badly thought out and not as good as I originally thought.

    Ispeaktomuch June 4, 2025 11:13 pm
    “I understand that every universe is different”Do you? Because I think you’re struggling to understand that this one is… I would suggest reading more omegaverse. Betas are not always strictly regular hu... SleepyCat

    But also stop with the aggression, you’re trying to “fight” when people are just trying to have a discussion.

    Ispeaktomuch June 4, 2025 11:14 pm
    TBF intersex is a thing and I imagine it's way more common in omegaverse so there might be alpha-leaning betas, omega-leaning betas, and true betas but it was never mentioned in the manhwa (tho idk about the no... elghosto

    Lastly, I’ve read plentyyyyyy of omegaverse and this would be a first where betas get wet, you should drop some names because out of the hundreds I’ve read I’ve never come across that.

    elghosto June 6, 2025 3:21 pm
    Lastly, I’ve read plentyyyyyy of omegaverse and this would be a first where betas get wet, you should drop some names because out of the hundreds I’ve read I’ve never come across that. Ispeaktomuch

    I don't really read original story omegaverse unless I'm interested with the premise or the character design so I don't have any recs aside from ao3 fics

    If betas getting wet isn't your vibe you can choose to ignore it, it's not that relevant till the end of the story (and we've come this far so it's funny if you'd drop this just for that )

Ispeaktomuch May 3, 2025 2:11 am

No one’s susy about the kid? The lil boy just vanished. His dad’s refusing to let him see the kid and he’s not been mentioned for a while now. I’m worried yall…we gonna get the smex scene followed by drama? Dck before the storm and all that

    ❦ඩShashaඩ❦ May 3, 2025 2:15 am

    We don't care. All we have in our minds rn is dick cock and ass

    Ispeaktomuch May 3, 2025 2:30 am
    We don't care. All we have in our minds rn is dick cock and ass ❦ඩShashaඩ❦

    I’m the kind to enjoy story as well as. I’m sure the others who liked my post agree lol. Enjoy your smut cus I can send the plot thickening

    ❦ඩShashaඩ❦ May 3, 2025 4:15 am
    I’m the kind to enjoy story as well as. I’m sure the others who liked my post agree lol. Enjoy your smut cus I can send the plot thickening Ispeaktomuch

    Oh no I agree. I was js joking if U didn't realise

Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 1:23 am

Don’t ask me how but I’m feeling bad for the mc…. Like the twink said all that and then he pleasured him to keep him away from the ml. I don’t think they did it all the way? Probs just hands and mouth I think but that’s why he’s going so crazy rn. Like what he’s doing to the ml is NOT okay I want to make that clear but I think in the mcs head he’s doing it to Luke purge himself….i really don’t know. The look after the twink got me going down a conspiracy spiral cus why’s he look like a victim there’s so much more to the mc and the thinks “relationship”.

    ChoGM April 29, 2025 1:46 am

    They did it al the way :( Twink said it had been a while so he was feeling sore after..

    Gungun April 29, 2025 1:55 am
    They did it al the way :( Twink said it had been a while so he was feeling sore after.. ChoGM

    It's just fingering bro

    Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 2:27 am
    They did it al the way :( Twink said it had been a while so he was feeling sore after.. ChoGM

    You can be sore after being poked

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 2:28 am
    You can be sore after being poked Ispeaktomuch

    “It had been a while” makes me think of penetrative sex. If it’s just finger, he can masterbate at him or dildos. So definitely full sex

    Kenny April 29, 2025 2:30 am
    “It had been a while” makes me think of penetrative sex. If it’s just finger, he can masterbate at him or dildos. So definitely full sex UUta0

    They definitely did it and I really hope not. I hope we're wrong

    MELI April 29, 2025 2:33 am
    “It had been a while” makes me think of penetrative sex. If it’s just finger, he can masterbate at him or dildos. So definitely full sex UUta0

    It was definitely full sex that's why Mokyeon looked bad afterwards idk why people think they didn't

    Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 2:36 am
    It was definitely full sex that's why Mokyeon looked bad afterwards idk why people think they didn't MELI

    The reason I’m doubting it is cus he was washing his hands, strange choice by the author if they did it fully. Usually they’d show a shower scene instead

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 2:39 am
    The reason I’m doubting it is cus he was washing his hands, strange choice by the author if they did it fully. Usually they’d show a shower scene instead Ispeaktomuch

    Unfortunately not everyone showers after sex…nasty ik. I think he washed his hands because his hands were touching inside of twink to prep him since it’s been a while for twink.

    Kenny April 29, 2025 2:42 am
    Unfortunately not everyone showers after sex…nasty ik. I think he washed his hands because his hands were touching inside of twink to prep him since it’s been a while for twink. UUta0

    Argh, if they definitely did it?! I'll be so fucking mad and he didn't even shower... that's disgusting

    Gungun April 29, 2025 2:43 am
    Unfortunately not everyone showers after sex…nasty ik. I think he washed his hands because his hands were touching inside of twink to prep him since it’s been a while for twink. UUta0

    No, the reaction afterwards would warrant a shower by recipient. He didn't like it.

    Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 2:57 am
    Argh, if they definitely did it?! I'll be so fucking mad and he didn't even shower... that's disgusting Kenny

    Nah like someone else said the way he reacted would have warranted a shower not just hands

    MELI April 29, 2025 3:02 am
    The reason I’m doubting it is cus he was washing his hands, strange choice by the author if they did it fully. Usually they’d show a shower scene instead Ispeaktomuch

    But you see he was in a rush to get to Nanjo

    Kenny April 29, 2025 3:02 am
    Nah like someone else said the way he reacted would have warranted a shower not just hands Ispeaktomuch

    Damn right

    MELI April 29, 2025 3:06 am
    Argh, if they definitely did it?! I'll be so fucking mad and he didn't even shower... that's disgusting Kenny

    The "that's disgusting" in your comment took me out I'm sorry I know you're serious I think that's disgusting too I've seen it happen in some other bl's

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 3:07 am
    No, the reaction afterwards would warrant a shower by recipient. He didn't like it. Gungun

    Could be true but honestly Nanjo is used to sleeping with the twink. And like another said, he’s in a rush to get to Nanjo, I doubt he’d just shower.

    While I do also hope he only fingered, it’s 50/50.

    Kenny April 29, 2025 3:13 am
    The "that's disgusting" in your comment took me out I'm sorry I know you're serious I think that's disgusting too I've seen it happen in some other bl's MELI

    HAHAHA LOL. It really disgust me by what can we do? I'm afraid that some STDs will transmit to Nanjo

    Kenny April 29, 2025 3:14 am
    Could be true but honestly Nanjo is used to sleeping with the twink. And like another said, he’s in a rush to get to Nanjo, I doubt he’d just shower.While I do also hope he only fingered, it’s 50/50. UUta0

    I doubt that Nanjo and the it also slept a barely but honestly I really hope that he just not penetrative say gex

    Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 3:19 am
    Could be true but honestly Nanjo is used to sleeping with the twink. And like another said, he’s in a rush to get to Nanjo, I doubt he’d just shower.While I do also hope he only fingered, it’s 50/50. UUta0

    And his whole sleeping with him is literally based off of him not sleeping with him. Why’d he risk being found out by not showering

    Kenny April 29, 2025 3:21 am
    And his whole sleeping with him is literally based off of him not sleeping with him. Why’d he risk being found out by not showering Ispeaktomuch

    Totally right!!

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 3:47 am
    And his whole sleeping with him is literally based off of him not sleeping with him. Why’d he risk being found out by not showering Ispeaktomuch

    Do you think he cares about Nanjo’s opinion? He’s never cared, at least not yet.

    Either ways, you could be right or I could. 50/50
    We’re just thinking of what might’ve happened, not that it did. But for sure, they definitely engaged in sexual activity regardless if penetrative.

    Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 3:59 am
    Do you think he cares about Nanjo’s opinion? He’s never cared, at least not yet.Either ways, you could be right or I could. 50/50We’re just thinking of what might’ve happened, not that it did. But for s... UUta0

    Have we been reading the same thing? Mans down bad. He knows the only way he’s getting with the ml Is by keeping his promise but he let his anxiety/jealousy get the better of him so caved to the twink. If they did the full deed I think he’d have showered 100%

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 4:08 am
    Have we been reading the same thing? Mans down bad. He knows the only way he’s getting with the ml Is by keeping his promise but he let his anxiety/jealousy get the better of him so caved to the twink. If the... Ispeaktomuch

    No I mean, he doesn’t care enough to stop when the MC said to, so what makes one think he’ll care at this moment? And yeah, he did cave into the twink.

    I genuinely believe he had sex with the twink.
    But I also have the other side where I believe he may have just fingered. All of these are just our thoughts, not that it happened. So we can leave this be.

    I hope he will genuinely be down bad enough to stop caving into that fugly twink.

    UUta0 April 29, 2025 4:15 am
    Have we been reading the same thing? Mans down bad. He knows the only way he’s getting with the ml Is by keeping his promise but he let his anxiety/jealousy get the better of him so caved to the twink. If the... Ispeaktomuch

    Whether they did the full deed or not, it’s icky that he went to Nanjo right after doing that shit..ugh. Hope Nanjo finds out lmao

Ispeaktomuch April 29, 2025 12:43 am

Like…the scene where he says he doesn’t even know if it’s cum from him is so obvious “I tried wiping myself it just kept coming out” it’s clearly arousal from himself. It’s why when they did it the first few seconds it happens. I’m surprised no one else is talking about it. I’m going to assume he’s recessive and that cus he’s around a dominant in his rut it triggered the awakening.

Ispeaktomuch April 26, 2025 12:06 am

Cus tell me why I’m shipping the brother and the body guard

    Ohmarwin April 26, 2025 12:14 am

    Eww no. The brother is an asshole

    luthienpon April 26, 2025 12:24 am

    Noo but i get itttt!! Omg!!

    Sami April 26, 2025 12:39 am

    I see ur vision girl don’t let them silence you… (annoying brother definitely the uke)

    Ohmarwin April 26, 2025 6:17 am
    I see ur vision girl don’t let them silence you… (annoying brother definitely the uke) Sami

    Hahaha but that's too cliche

    luthienpon April 26, 2025 10:40 am
    I see ur vision girl don’t let them silence you… (annoying brother definitely the uke) Sami

    I imagine him like a very vocal power bottom.

    Ispeaktomuch April 27, 2025 1:36 am
    Eww no. The brother is an asshole Ohmarwin

    Oh for sure! Me shipping isn’t me saying I like their personality

    Ispeaktomuch April 27, 2025 1:36 am
    I imagine him like a very vocal power bottom. luthienpon

    Yuppppp very twisted n bratty

    Sami April 27, 2025 3:51 am
    I imagine him like a very vocal power bottom. luthienpon

    Yes yes & yessssss

Ispeaktomuch April 20, 2025 2:15 am

I really really do think that the mc is the “bad guy” in this. I feel like he’s forgotten his past but his memory is trying to tell him something through his dreams. He saw lots of people blaming him who were bloody. I think he’s a scientist of some kind with a false memory and identity due to his accident. Do I think he knows the ml? I’m 50/50 on that. I’m kinda torn because I THINK that he could be a reason why the ml is the way he is and that’s why the ml throws up after they kiss but somethings telling me thtats not it.

Ispeaktomuch April 18, 2025 1:08 am

Or third person. I don’t think he’s the original guy who that face/head belongs to.

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