Like, I really like reading this and all, but I don't particularly like her interactions with any of the potential male leads except for Eliore...
Does anyone know who she ends up with or if she ends up with anyone at all? And if you do, can you please spoil me?
Legitimately thought this had been on hiatus for some reason lol, beginning of the year hitting me too hard rn, but when I saw that it updated I was so fuckin Happy, and that's a rare thing for me. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
n E way, Sensei eating the berries was so funny
I didn't know what to put as the caption, so I put tee hee...
Anyway, I know the likelihood of this getting updated on here is slim, but I just wanted to leave little marker here just in case. Overall, it's cute and I really like both the character designs, and I especially like her "Inner Yakuza"
Why are people pressed that she complains about the hand she's been dealt in life?
She's a child, with a neglectful Mother, and because of that neglect she has to manage school, a job, paying bills and rent, which is something her MOTHER should be doing. Shinra never complains, she thinks about it, sure, because that's her life but she's trying to move forward and survive for something better, she wants to make her life something more than it is right now for the future.
And when this rich brat is like "uR iNtErEsTiNg" bc he saw her eat food off the floor bc she was literally starving, do you expect her to just be okay with that? From her perspective, do you have any idea how insulting that is, for some rich rando to say that, when she's struggling to make ends meet and he's just all casual about it because she's poor and 'interesting' and he's just BORED. get bent. Her anger in that scene is and was totally justified.
Not to mention putting up with sexual harassment at work, again, things no one should ever have to go through in a work place. And it's awful because she's already thought about this before and what would happen if she were to report her manager. i.e. she quits leaving her with no paycheck that she needs for necessities. Which she explains, but Blondie still says that she should quit. And as much as I hate to say it, we all have things we don't like about our workplace, sometimes it is a handsy co-worker/manager, sometimes it's the pay, sometimes is just the working conditions, but we all make sacrifices, and I don't mean that "Oh we're martyrs or something for putting up with work bullshit" far from it, it shouldn't have to be that way, and it's so sad that she understands these things when she shouldn't have to, just like she shouldn't have to make those sacrifices at such a young age, but again. "I quit/don't work" = I don't eat or pay bills. This is her pov, and if being able to eat and pay bills means dealing with sexual harassment, she's already made her point very clear that she wouldn't quit in Ch 1.(which is not something I approve of, but given her circumstances and the criteria for jobs, i.e. one not requiring signature of parent/guardian, it is unfortunately understandable why she stays at her job, and explains as much)
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Now onto the point of her mother. Like I said, her mother is neglectful, there's no denying that. But in ch. 2, we see Shinra think "I probably want someone to be kind to me". Her whole life she's been fed kindness in scraps. How does this connect to her mother? Our first impression of the relationship between Shinra and her mother, is that she's constantly upset with her mother for not being there for her, which is valid, but because she's so starved for any kindness or affection, when we see the mother show up, despite Shinra lecturing her, we also see how happy she is that her mother is back home, and is so pleased that she won't be alone now. There was this study that a baby monkey, if it's been orphaned will cling to the nearest thing, I forgot the whole entirety of the study, but I remember that part at least. Shinra is literally clinging to these little bits of affections she has with her mom, she cherishes the time she can spend with her Mom. She even looks happy when she tells Rai, that her mom came back home. And the point I'm trying to make is not that her mom is a good person/parent or whatever, that's not it at all. What I'm trying to say is that her mother's way of disappearing without any word and then reappearing and being all affectionate and sweet, only to drop off the map, has set the standard for what Shinra bases her expectations for the way people treat her kindly. Which is the barest minimum. Look, not all parents deserve kids, but all children deserve (good)parents.
Her Mother literally gives the barest shits about her kid, always these empty promises and statements of how all she needs is Shinra after a break up, only to then leave again when a new man or an old ex shows up. Can you imagine growing up in such a contradictory environment? "You're all I need, I'm going to stop dating" "Oh wait, I gotta GO, I just got a new boyfriend" That's the type of "kindness/affection" she knows. there one moment, gone the next. Which is why she is so distrustful of the trio. First Rai makes it seem like she's just amusement to ease his boredom, the next he's trying to be helpful.
For her, this is unknown territory, and she only see's it and trusts it as "the rich frolicking with the poor", that makes sense, and then when he show's up being all serious about wanting to be friends or for her to at least take advantage of the help the trio can giver her, she's still wary, bc seriously tf? It's a lot for a child who really has no healthy understanding of what "kindness" is. Which is terribly sad, no child should go through that. Which is why when she admits that she wanted someone to be kind to her, it's a big step in her recognizing that the scraps of affection from her mother were in fact not 'real kindness'. Which is why I really like Kanan Nakamura, he may be part of the trio, but his actions to me were more genuine. Though I can begrudgingly admit that it was Rai's intervention that led to that tearful eating food scene in Ch. 2, which also lead to Shinra deciding to use them as a means of survival.
and at the behest of Rai, when Nagisa comes or something, she accepts Nagisa's kindness, because like I said before and suspect, she doesn't know what real kindness is. She can't tell when someone is being deceptive. Which is some thing you'd think she'd know, since she has been taking care of herself for so long, but alas that is not the case.
Shinra wasn't deceived by her pervert manager, it was clear what he was doing, despite his weak attempt at gaslighting by saying "oh I don't see you as a girl don't worry" literally no one bought that, and neither did she. But Nagisa was sly, she made it seem like she was helping her out with the make-up first and that made Shinra happy, so when Nagisa brought the sugar-daddy thing up, even though Shinra was cautious about it bc of what she heard about it being not safe and such, Nagisa spun this entire thing of how she "had a lot of friends that also did it, it'll be fine, don't worry, here, I'll even help you" which, I mean, just sounds like another fellow student trying to help her out, even if Shinra wasn't too sure about the whole thing. She thought Nagisa was just being nice or "kind" because she doesn't know better.
She IS naive when it comes to affairs with other people, she doesn't really interact with people because she never felt the need to, but she's started to change in the name of survival, bc she realized that she can't do this alone, hence her entire thing of taking the trio's offer on them helping her.
So back to what I was trying to say at the beginning. I believe that Shinra has the right to fucking complain about her situation, so excuse her for actually finding people she can bitch about it to. She literally has never done it before, imagine how relieving it is for her to actually talk about it, even if she's frustrated with the Richies. And I find it fascinating to read comments complaining about the fact that she's self deprecating or something, bc I don't think she really is, or I don't see it as a bad thing, I say let it out y'know.
And to clarify, I'm not a psychologist or anything of the sort, I just know things from my own life experience, this is purely my opinion of what I think of Shinra's situation and story so far. And that aside, I really like this manga so far, I can't wait to see where things go from here.
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I feel like some of my points may not have been conveyed as clearly as I wanted them to be, and that some of them may be a reach in certain aspects, then again some may be correct, but yeah. Feel free to comment or give constructive criticism.
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Yup I agree. Reading this I was so mad at the mom fuvk can't even call her that. And because the Mc has never had anyone to protect her she of course always has her guard and the only thing she could try to protect was her own pride too.
love ur thoughts!!
I agree in why the MC is like that
JUST TELL HIM FLAT OUT "No, I don't want to date you. I thought that was a one night stand, and honestly that's all I want it to be. Please leave me alone." THERE, and if he doesn't listen, file a report with HR and if he doesn't stop, then go to the police, but nOO, I know it won't happen. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(I'm so glad to have comments back though)
Lol the reason why it didn’t go that way was because she actually was interested in him. So she wouldn’t want to do that. It was only her past relationship that held her back
Y'ever just feel that "WhAt DiD hE sAY??" video in your soul? because I do, what the [redacted] charlotte
I'm a bit wary of Dylan at the moment. We know that he's obsessed with Charlize, and not in the healthiest of ways, and that he'd most likely do anything to keep her by his side, right?
So what I think that he might be willing to turn her into the living sword to always keep her by his side. And I think this, because he put two and two together from what Char had explained about what happens when people eat the Ehrite(is that how it's spelled?), and how there was only one case of a person maintaining their ego, making the experiment a success, and that person was Char herself. So I can't help but think that when Char runs away that it might be in line with my theory, or that after she runs away Dylan obsesses even more over her and is willing to turn her into a sword just to keep her by his side.
'Course, he could just beat the emperor for even thinking of making Char into Kiera, but oh well, I'm looking forward to how it'll pan out.
No way, he isn't someone like that.
Yes, he will do something but not to Char.
He is helplessly in love with her , its borderline obsessive but not the kind you are painting it into. He wont do anything horrible like that to char.
He kinda is though.. he might not turn her into a sword but what he will do is worse which makes her run away. And I’m happy about it cause I don’t want her to tolerate his ass
Perhapsヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
It was just a theory, but I'm mainly looking forward to how everything will pan out in the end.
My theory banks on the fact that he steps from borderline to batshit crazy obsessive, I've seen a few manhwas, and just tropes in general, like that before. You can call what I came up with the imagination of an overactive mind or whatever.
Though yeah, I hope he isn't the kind that would do that to Char.
erm spoiler but i read somewhere that he does exactly that :)
Yeah ik what he will do but there is no way he will turn her into the sword lmao
WHAT?! He turns Charlize into a sword???!!
NO
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He will turn Emperor into the sword because if Emperor die there is no reason to alive for Char and that's why Dylan doesn't want that
Oh thank god. I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying
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You’re forgetting that in order to turn someone into a sword they would have to ingest eirhite repeatedly. Somehow i dont quite see anyone forcing Charlize to do something she doesnt want to do seeing as her abilities far outweighs everone in the kingdom right now
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He didn't turn the emperor into a sword. He just made him immortal by feeding him the Ehirite
oh i read the spoilers very long time ago so i didn't remember all the details, anyway emperor can't die in the end
after all this time, after seven years, I finally found this oneshot again. life is good again lol
Deadass, Idk how to feel.
Homeskillet couldn't have just... idk made her anything other than a concubine? A worker in his home would have been way. ESPECIALLY bc he's like "I BOUGHT you, your life belongs to me now" like????
Umm, sir? It's giving ˢˡᵃᵛᵉʳʸ (I'm so sorry, but that's lowkey how I feel)
BC she literally can't say "no" because that could be seen as "she's refusing to do her job" and she doesn't know what would happen to her if she refuses. In her head, she's probably like, 'if I refuse, will his kindness go away?'
And IDGAF if she says it's okay. No, nO girl. She's experiencing 'kindness'(i.e. basic human rights) for the first time after a long time and she's like is this love? NO GIRL, bro tells you that you can't leave him bc you 'belong to him' like every damn chapter. It's giving POSSESSION of an object-- NOT woman I love vibes.
BUT I'm a stupid fucker for these tropes, so I am still really curious to see where it'll go. Which is why idk how to feel. Thoughts anyone?
I mean look at the period of time.. it's not modern world maybe between 80s or I don't know old time world war 1. Of course slavery still exist that time (￣∇￣")
WW1 was four years, spanning from 1914 to 1918, and slavery would have 'ended' in most places(I put ended in quotations bc nah, some ppl back then were still doing it even if it had a 'different name').
But you are 100% right, in that this is a complete and different time period. I'd guess maybe mid to late 1800's to no farther than the when WW1 ended, only bc of the clothing-- when Japan started wearing western fashion, so early westernization(ish).
And I know I'm applying modern standards to a historical/fantasy romance, but at the same time idk... I suppose I just felt that I've seen this trope done better and more tastefully in other works.
Also, thank you so much for replying! Really took me down a notch bc I forgot about the time period lol ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Yeah i mean even slavery end but not entirely end ..even in modern still have.