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Hey, to everyone checking it out, NOT a yaoi. It's been uploaded here twice.
This is the one that gets updated if you're interested: https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/don_t_pick_up_what_you_ve_thrown_away/

No clue as to why it was tagged yaoi or has yaoi in the title. It's a Rofan but also has made it's way in Otome Isekai circles.

I am left with way more questions than answers, what is happening

TL;DR – I hope Suchan realises that even though he wants to go back to human society, that's not what he needs and he actually needs a place where people will accept him for who he is. The first few chapters from Jungle Juice set up amazing potential for themes and ideas regarding social norms, conformity to society, hiding behind a facade of normalcy and eventually being accepting of differences. It's done subtly, but not so much so, that the action part is still enjoyable without a bunch of deep and profound shit being shoved in your face every now and then, and as well enhances Suchan's character. I hope the author is able to utilise this in the future.

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I wanna hope Suchan's mindset is gonna change from "I wanna go back to the human city and resume my life from before!!"; don't get me wrong, I think it definitely will, but it's been quite a while now and it still hasn't, nor has it been set up, so I'm just getting slightly worried.

See, other than its action, Jungle Juice has some REALLY good allegories and themes for fitting in, conformity, society, norms etc. which makes it quite an interesting read in comparison to a lot of other webtoons and manhwas. Most of them focus on a revenge plot and bettering oneself, and while, yes, they're fun to read, they don't really tackle ideas or send a message quite like JJ does, which separates it from the rest. That's what makes it so interesting and stands out from a lot of other webtoons, in my opinion.

I think the idea it's promoting is that not every place or everyone is going to except you for who you are, and that's okay. That there are always like-minded people, and there are always places for you, even if you're not "normal." That chasing normalcy and hiding yourself to fit in is unhealthy and draining, and not true happiness. You should embrace a place where you're truly accepted for being who you are. When Suchan is no longer wanted somewhere, he always finds a group of like-minded people that do want him, and accept him as is.

It's a GREAT theme, though not a particularly innovative. The allegory of NEST and Stray Dogs themselves, and the subtlety of this theme makes its message come off as fun and a good commentary, rather than preachy and in the reader's face. JJ seems to be gearing its direction towards this route, and also setting itself up to have themes of accepting differences in the future. However, Suchan has had an alarming lack of growth on his viewpoint.

I thought by now they would have planted the seeds of change in his mind, where he starts doubting himself and if returning to human society is what he really wants. However, I can see that maybe the author will let those conflicting thoughts occur when he's closer to getting Cinderella.

I'm still really enjoying JJ, but I hope Suchan is able to go from getting what he wants (back to human society) to getting what he actually needs in the end (acceptance from people who care about him). Otherwise, I'd feel like the story would be wasting its potential from the way they set everything up at the start.

Every time Jaecunt does some shit I'm like "okay you can't go lower than that" AND THEN HE DOES

ok but fr tho, why does MC kinda look like anime Cat Noir-

It’s— I’m—
30cm..a foot long...that’s a subway sandwich. Have you tried to fit a subway sandwich into your pants? Probably not, but this man has to. How-
How does it fit??? I’m not understanding- Where does it all...G O?

I know I did an entire theory about why Fan isn’t the killer but Fan sus.

Yes, slave dude is hella sus. Sus. He screams red flags. BUT, here’s my theory:
I THINK HE MIGHT JUST BE A RED HERRING. He IS suspicious, but there are some things that just don’t add up.

If I remember correctly, the slave is one of the first people Clea meets, and she interacted with him before the banquet with the Duke when she is reincarnated. This is important to note.
When Clea enters the banquet with the Duke, we have the famous line: “How is she not dead yet?”
Clea says that this is the presumed killer, so we’re going off that. The line itself implies the killer did not know Clea was alive, despite Clea appearing in high society twice after she reincarnated (that we know of).
1. When she asked the Duke to marry her in front of everyone but got rejected.
2. When she asked the Duke to talk about a marriage contract over some wine.

But, the slave does know Clea is alive. So that line simply makes no sense. Even if the slave was working for the real killer, than he would’ve reported it, but we still get that line.
With this, we can rule out the slave, he’s suspicious, but it just DOESN’T make sense.

I think the killer might be...Marquis Salami.
The perpetrator must not be that active in high society, since it took Clea appearing a MINIMUM of 3 times at social gatherings for the killer to know that she is not dead. Plus: Clea marrying the Duke would’ve been HUGE NEWS. Huge news that everyone would be talking about: yet the killer STILL didn’t know that Clea was alive? Well...
Marquis Salami is described as a mysterious character who rarely appears in high society, and keeps to himself. It would make sense for him not to know about Clea being alive, since he is pretty inactive when it comes to social circles.
Not only that, but he SUDDENLY invites Clea over using an invitation. Judging by the reaction of the maid, this isn’t common. Why would he send an invitation to...Clea? She’s really unpopular, described as a demon. The big problem here is: people don’t mask their hatred for Clea, going as far as to send hate mail.
If Clea DID know Marquis Salami on good terms, but can’t remember, people would have pretended to be nice to her, since Marquis Salami is very popular despite not showing up often. If Clea WAS friends with that Marquis Salami, a lot of people would want to get on her good side. They’d want to get close to Marquis Salami.
The spontaneous invite just doesn’t make sense.

But of course, you’re wondering: “But what about the line? ‘How is she not dead yet?’”
Of course, Marquis Salami was NOT at that banquet, otherwise there would’ve been a HUGE scene. A far-fetched claim is that it WAS Marquis Salami, he may disguised himself, as mentioned, he DOES need to do that due to how good-looking he is, and magic does exist, so there could be some form of illusion magic that can disguise his face.
But, a more believable claim is that it was a subordinate of Marquis Salami, or someone conspiring with him to kill Clea. Marquis Salami might send someone to social gatherings to keep him in touch with everything. So he doesn’t fall behind.

Clea was a Countess (during the murder) and was murdered in her own home, so, it makes sense. Marquis Salami definitely would have enough status and money to be able to cover-up a murder.

So, that’s my theory, Marquis Salami is the killer, the slave is a red herring, and is purposefully trying the throw us off.

Can some novel readers tell me where this is up to on the novel pretty please

I keep seeing comments saying, “Oh but I want the MC to be strong and murder everyone!” and “Why doesn’t she just kill them all? Why isn’t she cunning? She has a God!” and “Oh! Is she gonna forgive them or something??? But that would be annoying!”

Now, it’s actually really good to have a character that doesn’t simply brush off years of trauma and abuse. Now, I’m not gonna pretend I know everything, because I don’t.
What’s IMPORTANT to note is that: MOST ABUSE VICTIMS HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THEIR ABUSER.
A lot of abuse victims actually DON’T WANT TO DO ANYTHING BAD TO THEIR ABUSER, some may actually rather see their abusers get BETTER.
This is because abusers will use lots of manipulative tactics, and the victim being in vulnerable and emotional state they are in...it’s gonna work.
It’s also VERY IMPORTANT to remember: OUR FL HAS NEVER LEARNT OF THE CONCEPT OF “WANTING” SOMETHING.

Her father never gave her jackshit, she wasn’t ALLOWED to want anything, so she never did, the only thing she wanted was their love, but she chose to let that go. If some guy just goes “Ayo I can give you anything you want.”, when FL still hasn’t really figured out what she wants, she’s gonna be confused and anyone would be, because “anything” is too vague and there’s so many options to choose from.

“Oh! Make her become Empress and take over the Empire!!”
She was literally neglected and abused all her life, you think she got an EDUCATION??? She was abused, but she was nobility, which means her education would have to be provided by tutors which would be provided by her shitty father, and do you really think that jackass would do that? Sorry, but our FL may barely be able to read, let alone run an ENTIRE FUCKING EMPIRE. She would probably be a shit Empress, just saying.

She’s already doing so well for someone that was abused for that long. I’m proud of her.