Cloverfr March 13, 2021 3:36 pm

When I started reading this, I honestly did not expect to be this good? I guess my expectations were pretty low, but it's very entertaining so far, not in an over the top way, and the pacing and character is nice.

I just hope Fl doesn't drag out the whole sex talk much longer, girl, you should know.

Cloverfr March 12, 2021 9:21 pm

I don't understand how she did not fall for this guy? I mean, she is not in looooooove~ with the Duke yet, but she's starting to feel things, yet nothing for this guy who stuck up
for her? GIRL.

I hope I don's sound like one of those nice guys, but I really don't get it, is not like you can't have male friends, but she is falling rather quickly for a guy she had to break her back for to impress, and while she was narrating her, oh so sad backstory, this guy didn't pop out even once, and we are at 35 chapters so far.

    kawazaki March 12, 2021 10:38 pm

    Because once you are in a bad relationship it is not easy to leave it. Especially in Daisy's case she was both emotionally abused to make her feel worthless without him and financially abused so she literally could not leave him to name a few. Besides just because you have a great male friend that is supportive doesn't mean you will develop romantic feelings for them.

    Cloverfr March 13, 2021 1:02 am
    Because once you are in a bad relationship it is not easy to leave it. Especially in Daisy's case she was both emotionally abused to make her feel worthless without him and financially abused so she literally c... kawazaki

    I just find it odd, to start with, how we JUST find out about this guy, at least for me, it seems bad writing in that aspect.

    I get her situation, that's why I did not say "why did she not elope with this guy?" both were in a terrible condition, I get it, I feel bad for both :(

    I just don't understand her feelings, why easily falling for the duke, who, until now I thought it was because he was the first person to treat her with respect, but now that is not the case anymore.

    I still like the story, don't get me wrong, I think is good enough, time will tell for sure, but for me, this guy seems to only come into the picture in order to fall for Daisy, and have a non-reciprocal love, AND to make the duke jealous, so he can realize his feelings.

    Nila March 13, 2021 3:04 am
    I just find it odd, to start with, how we JUST find out about this guy, at least for me, it seems bad writing in that aspect.I get her situation, that's why I did not say "why did she not elope with this guy?" ... Cloverfr

    She hasn't fallen for the Duke(yet), and I really hope the designer dosen't fall in love with her....that would just add drama to the plot and make it uselessly cliché
    If Daisy and Killian's relationship developed just because of jealousy, that would suck because jealousy alone isn't enough to push a character to overcome their part traumas, they should have to want to overcome it themselves
    Well I guess we'll see how the author writes it, and hopefully they write it with depth and not just "killian gets jealous, then realizes daisy is his one true love"

    Nila March 13, 2021 3:05 am
    I just find it odd, to start with, how we JUST find out about this guy, at least for me, it seems bad writing in that aspect.I get her situation, that's why I did not say "why did she not elope with this guy?" ... Cloverfr

    She hasn't fallen for the Duke(yet), and I really hope the designer dosen't fall in love with her....that would just add drama to the plot and make it uselessly cliché
    If Daisy and Killian's relationship developed just because of jealousy, that would suck because jealousy alone isn't enough to push a character to overcome their past traumas, they should have to want to overcome it themselves
    Well I guess we'll see how the author writes it, and hopefully they write it with depth and not just "killian gets jealous, then realizes daisy is his one true love"

    kawazaki March 13, 2021 3:41 am
    I just find it odd, to start with, how we JUST find out about this guy, at least for me, it seems bad writing in that aspect.I get her situation, that's why I did not say "why did she not elope with this guy?" ... Cloverfr

    Sorry, your initial message sounded a lot like victim blaming to me. My misunderstanding. Unfortunately, while Daisy is a good thinker, there is no other way for her. The writer will follow the cliché of poor girl with rich guy. However, she initially got together with the Duke so she could not marry within her life time. To be comfortable... set up her life with the Duke's resources during their contract time period and then be free and single! However, the story must include romance... soooo the rich and powerful guy is the only option as the ML (/TДT)/

Cloverfr March 11, 2021 3:08 am

I have already seen reverse harem before but never to this extent, she actively wants to build her own harem, wow.

Cloverfr March 1, 2021 1:44 pm

So the person who saved her was a girl? I see no romance tag, so instead of a romance this become a girls helping girls thing? I would LOVE for that to be the case! I was honestly not expecting it, if it becomes a GL it would be even better, don't get ahead of yourself ME, let's wait.

    Anonymous March 2, 2021 7:17 pm

    It' called survive romance though

Cloverfr February 28, 2021 9:25 pm

So I came after the anime announcement, I honestly feel disappointed, there is so many good af, bl mangas out there, and they choose this one of all of them, what a miss.

It just keeps getting on my nerve how misogynistic the guys are, oh well :T

If some of you are really into smut gender-bender thing, but are not really into this like me, there is this manhwa http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/which_do_you_prefer/

    HappyPsycho March 2, 2021 12:23 am

    idk how its misogunistic, i just think most guys are straight and horny

    HappyPsycho March 2, 2021 12:24 am
    idk how its misogunistic, i just think most guys are straight and horny HappyPsycho

    misogynistic*

    Ya Chan March 2, 2021 1:15 am
    idk how its misogunistic, i just think most guys are straight and horny HappyPsycho

    When shion gets harassed as a girl he is blamed for it by ryo(?) and this is also heavily implied to be his fault for not dressing appropriately (I tell ya I got harassed so many times in my life and 99% of the time I was wearing dirty joggers on my way to the supermarket). Also, some weird shit that ryo(still not sure what was his name) said during sex. Essentially for me, it comes across as if the author believes in some gender essentialist takes (like biology is the main drive behind gendered behavior) and also has a very uncritical attitude against sexism and sexual harassment.

    HappyPsycho March 2, 2021 1:20 am
    When shion gets harassed as a girl he is blamed for it by ryo(?) and this is also heavily implied to be his fault for not dressing appropriately (I tell ya I got harassed so many times in my life and 99% of the... Ya Chan

    oh ur right thats messed up

    Cloverfr March 2, 2021 3:09 am
    oh ur right thats messed up HappyPsycho

    There is also the fact that he keeps calling women who sleep around with men whores, ironically he was someone who easily slept around with women, the fact that after "learning" that women are human and have feelings because of that classmate girl who help him realize his feelings, he still referred to women who easily sleep with men whores. like "I am not some WHORE you know!" sort of thing.

    I had to drop it, I read more than half and I still can't find myself to like any of them, at that point, I don't expect an actual growth from the two of them.
    Is okay if you like it, I am just trying to be critical of the things I consume.

    HappyPsycho March 2, 2021 3:21 am
    There is also the fact that he keeps calling women who sleep around with men whores, ironically he was someone who easily slept around with women, the fact that after "learning" that women are human and have fe... Cloverfr

    Yeah u right

    Cloverfr March 2, 2021 3:54 am
    Yeah u right HappyPsycho

    I am sorry if this happens to ruin your reading experience, it's nice to address this issues tho

    HappyPsycho March 2, 2021 5:18 am
    I am sorry if this happens to ruin your reading experience, it's nice to address this issues tho Cloverfr

    Nah it’s aight

Cloverfr February 24, 2021 2:57 am

Finally, a true villianess, a likeable on top of that!, is a little ironic the word "villianess" is not on the tittle when is one of the manhwas more befitting of that word.

Plus, I love how she is not the actual true villainess of the story, nor she refers herself like that, she was just another awful people in that family of evilness.

I have seen a lot of self label villainesses that were not even actual villains in the og story, but for some reason, they just refer themselves as that, they probably were a minor rival or a minor antagonist, but not more than that.

    Simp February 24, 2021 5:56 am

    THIS^^ THEY ALWAYS TURN GOOD AND NO ONE QUESTIONS IS.

Cloverfr February 23, 2021 3:28 am

I feel so dumb, I think my brain can't catch up with that is happening, I will have to read once again from the start.

However, there is one thing I don't get so far, MC talks as if she is the real princes, not a transmigrated, she even has memories she treats as her own, as the real owner of the body, So, she remembers her previous life in the other world AND she also remembers the future of her own life? I am a little bit confused since it wasn't properly explain, I get myself and idea, but I still have little doubts.

Also, I don't get what as the role of the previous princess, she was dumb and naive as hell they said, if so, then how did she help the prince to ascend the throne, she said "I helped you become emperor" but HOW? He couldn't stop saying how useless she was, to the point of almost killing her with poison, I get he took advantage of her using her as a tool for his means, but I don't see she actively helped him become the emperor.

    Jae February 23, 2021 5:02 am

    The MC had read the story in her previous life. So since she already knew the plot, she is good at scheming.
    In the beginning, it shows that the MC wakes up after the poison incident the MC gets the princess's memories and that's why she treats it as her own memories.

    Since she was dumb and naive she used to do all the dirty work. Her brother manipulates her and uses her to get the job done.
    And maybe he manipulated her in a such a way that she thought if she does some bad stuff then Raephal (?? The black hair ML) will love her.

    Mikasakura February 23, 2021 8:09 am

    I agree, im so confused. Why does the mc (current cayena) refers herself as the past cayena.

    For example, the maid who took cares of the past cayena 10 years ago. The current cayena said that she misses her but she only met her at the past cayena's memories.

    So does that mean that the mc is also the past cayena in the first life?

    Sorry for my bad english.

    Miko February 23, 2021 8:16 am
    I agree, im so confused. Why does the mc (current cayena) refers herself as the past cayena. For example, the maid who took cares of the past cayena 10 years ago. The current cayena said that she misses her but... Mikasakura

    From some other spoilers i read from they said that this is the mc's third life. She died as cayena in her past life and then reincarnated into the girl who read the story and died and reincarnated as cayena again.

    Mikasakura February 23, 2021 9:08 am
    From some other spoilers i read from they said that this is the mc's third life. She died as cayena in her past life and then reincarnated into the girl who read the story and died and reincarnated as cayena a... Miko

    Like WMMAP? But how did she knew that she's the cayena in the first life?

    Miko February 23, 2021 10:02 am
    Like WMMAP? But how did she knew that she's the cayena in the first life? Mikasakura

    Idk 2 i juz read it from some spoilers

    Cloverfr February 23, 2021 10:55 pm
    The MC had read the story in her previous life. So since she already knew the plot, she is good at scheming. In the beginning, it shows that the MC wakes up after the poison incident the MC gets the princess's... Jae

    But even if she has the memories of the og, treating it as her own experiences it is highly confusing, I have seen other MCs in her position, such as the one of 50 tea recipes, she remembers, but she does not treat those memories or feelings as her own.

    I get why she knows the plot since she read it, but she was trembling and remembering the pain after seeing her ex-husband, or the sweat and warm feelings of her nanny, she 100% sees herself as Cayena, not once I have seen her treating Cayena as another person but herself.

    I absolutely love the art, her personality, and the whole things that is boiling down even if I have yet to understand her true objective, such what is she planning to do to her brother, but aside that, I don't get where she is coming from, she is a transmigrated AND a reincarnated? There was so little we saw of the past Mc and of the og Cayena that I don't know who the current Mc is, where this mastermind scheming genius comes from?.

    I will put as an example Chloe from 50 recipes, we see where she is coming from, we know enough of her past self, and we also know enough of the og Chole to know who the current Chole is and why she decided to change.

    Thank you all of you for answering.

Cloverfr February 22, 2021 6:44 pm

It feels nice to not be alone, I want her to "die" soooo badly, just for the sake to feel pain myself.

Cloverfr February 21, 2021 3:59 am

The only thing I want from this is for his Majesty to fall in love of her first, I don't have the heart to see her fall first and suffer yet again because of those feelings.

Plus he wasn't the kind of asshole "You must never fall in love with me, don't expect love from he, you hear me?" it was more of a place of concern, "I don't think I can reciprocate your feelings, and I don't want my future wife to suffer because of that."

    Elme February 21, 2021 4:14 am

    How is he so hot and respectful

Cloverfr February 21, 2021 2:32 am

I am starting to see a pattern here, every time I see native indigenous people they are always kind of represented like that, I'm starting to process how to feel about it.

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