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ngl i find everyone a little insufferable hae sung only goes with her whims, is superficial and self centered, jiwoon cant open his trap in regards of hae sung's or his own feelings and is just pointlessly jealous?? and the new instructor guy is weirdly pushy and seems superficial too djdiso. its not hae sung's job to clarify her and jiwoon's relationship status, but at the same time she could consider treating him as more than a sex toy considering they were friends?? like they must have some kind of affection for each other to have stayed friends for so long and youd think theyd know each other well and would try to be considerate of each other when it matters but ngl, writing wise they have virtually no chemistry jiwoon.... for one hes old enough to ask hae sung what the fuck is up and idk have some self respect?? its played of as a joke but obviously this is a point of conflict thats probably gonna make pointless angst later and make either of them cry. and idk getting jealous of instructor man when he didnt do anything (yet!) and going so far as to bump into him..... sir are you not embarassed. and if instructor man is really approaching hae sung just because he doesnt like jiwoon..... yall are 23+ please....... get a grip. ig what also doesnt help is that the characters have very little established good personality traits or much personality traits at all (in jiwoons case lmao) and we're always circling between the same locations and the same scenarios. i even dislike the groping aunties dbsjsi. maybe itll improve but so far hae sung is giving me gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, jiwoon is giving me folding chair and instructor man looks like hed call me a slur ngl

istg you got this man blushing at the sight of your tits and still feel the need to molest him in his sleep. just ask him to fuck smh

hes so ˢᵐᵃˡˡ

that homophobic bitch got a lot of confidence for walking around w a fucking triangle on his head. mf really said pythagorean theorem

after reading the raws im really looking forward to future chapters, but im kind of worried about soyoung fucking around with siwon's brother even after theyve started having sexual relations. i know he can fuck around all he wants as long as theyre not in a relationship but idk, siwon has been a good kid and approached him respectfully and without sexual ideas in mind in the first place and then confessed to him literally after their first time having sex so i hope soyoung manages to keep his feelings in mind as far as not hurting them... bc i feel like itd be unfair to siwon whos going along with his whims. its one thing if he fucks around with stranges but his brother?? idk man but theres too little to judge too quickly. i didnt understand everything in the raws but im also kinda worried about soyoung possibly having raped siwon’s brother?? idk he’s a homophobic little shit and obviously he comes back for more, but the whole thing seemed very….. dubious. soyoung’s tendency to just go ahead with his desires in general is a little…. huh. he’s an interesting character though, i really want to know about his backstory.
on another note its quite obvious that soyoung is a switch, the main focus for him regarding sex is being dominant and in control and in dom/sub dynamics and, by extension, bdsm, (while it can be turned into a central point) sexual positions dont have to relate to the dynamics. in the raws soyoung wants to finger siwon when they fuck the second time, but siwon doesnt like the idea because he isnt used to it and soyoung complies saying he got too excited by himself and will keep it vanilla for siwon. im pretty sure siwon will get /something/ up his ass at some point though lmaoo. but yea idk it’s not that big of a deal?? sexual relationships tend to be more than just top or bottom and i’d suggest not to dwindle every bl you read down to who’s ‘uke’ and ‘seme’. you can do what you want of course and i’m not judging, but hinging the likability of what you read on sexual positions can needlessly ruin a lot of stories that are actually pretty good, and to a point, speaks for objectifying characters in works where characters are not meant to be objectified. feel free to disagree though

sagawa is a literal five year old istg its pride month youre getting your gay card revoked smh

since everyone is so angry at yoonseul i reread the whole thing bc tbh i didn’t rly remember much, so here’s just a few things:

for one, yoonseul is really straightforward and analytical in his thinking, meaning, he has an idea of how something is supposed to go and acts accordingly to get to his goal.

secondly, he’s awfully impulsive, and i think he’s partly aware of that, since he’s going great lengths to appear pleasant to the people he wants to appeal to, but let’s out his shitty temper around his siblings and his freckle friend. he’s an all according to keikaku kinda guy, while joon in the other hand is straight forward with his emotions. that’s not necessarily a bad thing, a lot of people who‘re bad in social situations operate like that, esp nd people. i’m not saying that yoonseul is nd or anything like that, but i do relate to the way he goes about things.

another thing is, that he never meant to hurt joon or lead him on in the first place. he was trying to be his friend, since they didn’t have any sort of relationship before that and he wanted to apologize. the sincerity of his apology is debatable no doubt and i wish the author would’ve included his thought process on what he would do if joon wouldn’t want anything to do with him, but looking at his personality he would’ve just left him alone i think (sidenote: i do get the desperation behind wanting the dreams to stop though and the idea of going to the root of the problem, my sleep problems stem mostly from nightmares). i know its often said that intention doesn’t matter if someone gets hurt in the end, but i do think it’s a situational thing, i’d look at this very differently if yoonseul was following the ‘make him fall in love w me for fun’ trope.

as i said he’s impulsive, and that paired with 1) alcohol tearing down his otherwise solid inhibitions, 2) him being comfortable with being casual with joon and 3) with joon also being drunk, the kiss was also an accident, not a calculated try to lead him on. if you want other examples of him being impulsive: ofc his big shithead moment after the confession in ch. 9, him putting on the sweater in ch. 12, running out and leaving breakfast after the whole blind date thing in ch. 15 and him smiling and taking joon’s hands in ch. 16.

what i find most interesting is that in this quest, yoonseul‘s goal really was friendship. he didn’t really waste a thought on joon being potentially gay and i also don’t think he’s homophobic or anything, even if he’s been going on about how two guys couldn’t do this or that, it’s always with him in context. he didn’t dislike joon for confessing to him but he disliked a guy confessing to him bc he thought of himself as straight. but when he dreamt of these false scenarios of actually being awful to joon and calling him disgusting or making him cry he denounced that. as i said, he has an idea of how things are supposed to go and that includes himself, and diversion makes his brain hurty. he’s shit at emotional intelligence, especially when it comes to himself and has narrowed it down to when he should be pleasantly smiling and when he can let his emotions roam. in that context, not being able to imagine kissing joon also makes sense.

another thing is the first confession; i don’t think you can equate the outcome from that to the outcome of the second one. they actually have a relationship now and they’re grown, they should be between 25 and 30. obviously yoonseul had even worse impulsivity when he was younger and from what i can tell, he’s mostly grown in terms of keeping that under wraps and being more calculating, while joon has grown a lot in terms of confidence and empathy. idk if he said that he’s already forgotten about it to be kind, but i do hope he actually has, bc i loathe the ‘ive been in love with you this whole time‘ bullshit and it would be wasteful after he had such a hard time after the first confession, and how his whole shiny image of yoonseul was probably shattered. a lot of shit we experience when we are younger seem like the end of the world when they happen and even weeks or months after, but at some point, it just kind of fades away. and simultaneously a lot of kids are impulsive and don’t think right in the moment. a lot of you probably hurt someone with something you thought of as trivial and may never find out about it. i don’t think yoonseul was actually aware of how much damage his little outburst caused, even though he did regret it right after and this quality of him recognizing when he actually steps out of line is something that comes up again and again. it’s nice i think, him being frustrated over himself and calling himself a piece of shit, even without really knowing how to fix it. all he knows to do is to apologize, but in ch. 19 his usually overconfident self doesn’t even have the confidence to do that.

as a last thing, i’d like for you to keep in mind that even though yoonseul is the mc, he’s kind of selfish and kind of a douche. i may seem like a yoonseul apologist, but really i just find him kind of interesting, i don’t think i like him that much, at least by himself. i also thought he was vain at first, but really i believe he thinks of his looks as something like a commodity that warrants confidence. and he’s obviously been pampered bc of his looks. maybe he’s got some kinda complex along the lines of good looks spoiled by a rotten personality going on but tbh i don’t know, though i would like to know whether he does have some kind of insecurity. but yea, his selfishness kind of comes with the way he thinks and i don’t actually think that’s bad, some people are just like that without actively trying to disregard or discredit others and joon is actually a good balance to that. the confidence in his looks and his looks themselves are also generally fine, but when he gets overconfident i.e. this whole idea of the fucking apology or how he relies on his looks in the beginning, just writes douche. i kinda hope joon calls him out on that.

if yoonseul had some emotional intelligence, i think he’d actually be good at manipulating people lmao.

yea that’s my Thoughts.
TL;DR: yoonseul is quite interesting to me and i don’t think he’s that bad, just a little to rigid in his thinking. for a manwha character he’s very human, and in that sense, i like him. i’d like to see him get humbled a little and maybe actually sincerely apologize, for whatever he and also joon deems deserving of one in the end. also i hope to god, if he gets nightmares again, that they aren’t about the confession again, bc that’d be redundant. i’d like him to think out of the box for once, at least as well as he can.
maybe i’ll write another essay after the next few chaps or maybe i’ll drop it if it runs in the wall lmaoo let’s see.

if you’ve made it through this useless piece of text, here, you deserve a cookie

for the people who don’t understand that the ending might be a red flag or seem “rapey” to some others, it’s the way geon yeong is just kinda bulldozing through everything without regarding wonwoo telling him to stop or to wait. just going into his flat, manhandling him, throwing him on the bed, climbing on top of him and ending it with saying that “he can’t run away now” all the while ignoring literally anything wonwoo is saying; it seems kind of off, esp with the way he’s so stone faced. even with the fact that wonwoo gave consent before it doesn’t mean geon yeong can just do whatever he wants, esp when he’s 1) the one who asked wonwoo to sleep w him and 2) in wonwoo’s home. they’ve never had sex before, it’s not like wonwoo is used to him being like that. it may not necessarily be framed negatively, but that doesn’t mean it can’t come off that way, esp to people who’ve been ragdolled like that before. wonwoo being flustered also doesn’t negate the way geon yeong is behaving.

if you didn’t think it came off that way it’s fine, everyone experiences things differently and no one is telling you you can’t enjoy the manhwa regardless, you’re free to disagree. i know it’s fiction, and that’s also not really interfering with the point i’m trying to make.

not him spitting ocean facts while fucking they’re cute tho good for them

spoilers! it’s rly interesting in itself, but honestly, soohyun brewing up this personal vendetta on his own and not growing up in what? five, ten years to continue his one sided power game is just..?? the reason eunsung forgot you is bc your inferiority complex is one sided and instead of using your energy for yourself, you made you whole life dependent on him, while he just lived like a normal person lmao. things happen, people forget. idk ofc it’s only the beginning and so far i like none of them bc soohyun rly went and weaponized eunsung being gay and in turn eunsung got turned into a straight up rapist. and who knows, maybe soohyun actually is in his own right to act the way he does. the basis for this story is just really shaky ig, i’ve read some of the raws but i don’t really know what’s going on so shrug. just food for thought ig