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Ok soo I have read quick translation of the chapter and I'm still confused. Did NK said that he (himself) needs to sleep or he (seungho) needs to sleep idk I just don't know but for what I'm going to say next let's assume he said that about himself.
So firstly I REALLY do NOT think SH will do anything to NK this time. He was really worried about NK look at his dark circle he clearly didn't sleep or at least didn't sleep well during the days NK was inconscient.
Remember that the servant said that SH had sleeping issues but we all know that since NK arrived it seems that it calms down. SH face when NK was in inconscient in chapter 33 was really in shook. Furthermore, he HIMSELF brought him in his quarters(= he was concerned about NK) he didn't just tell the servant to do it.
Also since the doctor came we all noticed how strange SH was acting he didn't say anything and even in the orgy he wasn't feeling it his mind went all nakyum nakyum..
Back to the present when NK said that he needed to sleep it was like he assumed that in SH quarters he couldn't for many reasons, he doesn't trust him (obviously) and he's scared of him but when he said that SH went shook and he then faked to kiss him and said that he doesn't know what NK thought he was going to do (lol he's really asking that) . To me he seems really pissed like " I was not going to do anything why are you acting like that" I believe and then he tell him to go. So for me SH wanted NK to stay but got pissed bc NK can't trust his behavior (normal sjssj).
What may happens next,
Actually I commented something but it got deleted so I'll say it again, I think if the both MC would end up together after all it may happens because NK will realize that SH (in his way)pays more attention to him than IH. I think it's started bc he known that IH didn't look after him during 10 days (motherfucker). And slowly he'll just feel "important" with SH but not like in a loving way more like he would need him to feel alive(?) idk something like that.
Anyway it was a long post sorry ahah!! I'm so excited for the chapter 35 already (ps: SH proportion are really gold af dude can't be this perfect physically i mean) ヾ(☆▽☆)
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I’m going to say something controversial but can we really say that the chapter 31 was a rape?
Properly say it was but NK in the previous chapter told SH that he will do everything he wanted him to do. The difference with others times is that NK kinda allowed SH to do it. When NK is totally against something he can be really violent like remember SH scar. I think it’s more like a blackmail than a rape even if it wasn’t NK will he still accepted it.
Anyway that’s what I think ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Do you have raws? Pls share. I can't live a life without raws about this manhwa.
here r the raws https://toonkor.show/%EC%95%BC%ED%99%94%EC%B2%A9
It's rape. He does not truly want the sex and even said no and stop throughout the sex scene (I translated some dialogue), but even if he didn't /blackmail/ is one of the main ways victims get trapped with the rapist. He is only accepting his fate under duress. Kind of reminds me of how sometimes a victim will endure abuse for the sake of a loved one. That's what Nakyum is doing in his own mind. He looked like he was trying to hold in his misery and even when he was blushing and cumming he looked scared.
Accepting Seungho's advances under duress in NOT consent.
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I'm not interested in discussing the rape in the webtoon itself but I'd just like to point out that blackmailing someone into having sex is in many western countries defined as rape.
His life or the life of someone else would be in danger if he didn't agree to have sex which makes it rape from a legal point of view. Even if someone blackmails you with less (like losing your job) it's still rape.
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It's still rape even if Nakyun takes pleasure from that. In the story, he is in position of weakness. He doesn't have too much to say about it because he is will keep doing whatever necessary (in his mind) to keep his teacher safe.
He doesn't reject Seungho this time because there is a fear factor between them. He is scared of Seungho, he is unwilling about doing it but at the same time he discovers the pleasure of sex. I'm pretty sure he did feel it when he saw Seungho's eye in the mirror as he was always drawn by his eyes.
I didn't want to make an analysis this time (I did it though, lol), but we have to agree that at this point, Nakyum didn't consent.
He didn’t consent but he did enjoyed it. That’s clear.
I only read on lezhin sorry(￣∇￣")
Yeah that’s true
I agree
I get you and I agree thank you for responding
Thank you for your reply and yeah I agree
Yeah indeed
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Since chap 20-21 we were mostly from SH pov, at the beginning we weren't sure about he was "feeling" for NK but after these chapters till now I think we all agree that he's obsessed with NK as the person and not as the painter. Right now I'm not even talking about love or romance let's be clear, but it's a fact that SH feels something for him (possessiveness, jealousy, frustration, etc.)
Now what I want to know is NK pov even if he was disgusted and clearly scared about all that happened we don't REALLY know what's happening in his mind. So I think in the following chapters we will have it, maybe after knowing if he really ran away or not, if he did we will most see his pov I guess. I really want NK to evolved as a character, we saw him cried so much it would be really interesting to see the slow turn of his changement in the future because he has so much power but he didn't realize it yet.
I was thinking about pov of the red haired sir but I don't think we'll see him again that soon in the story. Also I thought about Inhun and if he's with NK it's pretty possible but we already know his goals so it would be useless to see his pov at this point, maybe later.
I think that's all for now on, let's see. What do y'all think about it??
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Am I dreaming or some of you are blaming the Author because they draw NK pretty during abusing scenes.
Firstly the Author always drew the characters prettily even asshole like inhun. They also improved their skills through the story, NK was portrayed as young since the very beginning of the story so it doesn’t feel awkward if he looks younger now since the Author improved themselves. If people don’t feel sorry towards NK because he looks pretty when he’s abused don’t blame the Author but just the kinky readers because it’s so disrespectful. And NK always been pretty tho so I don’t understand this...
Anyway can yall just support the hard work of the Author w/o trying to find something problematic and ruin the joy of people who like it, thanks.
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I think y’all don’t understand how fucked up NK is if he really ran away. When you think about it just 2sec SH literally found him when he used a pseudonym and didn’t even paint anymore. Now that he is obsessed with NK and not just with his works he gonna do EVERYTHING to find him again and if he thinks that NK ran away with inhun he gonna FOR REAL kill them. So I can’t be so happy about it because NK is not safe he’s in big danger now more than ever.
don’t worry(づ￣ ³￣)づ
Nakyum didn’t hide when Seughoo found him. Now he knows how crazy and obsessed seughoo is for his paintings.
How exactly could he hide himself m? He has nothing no contacts no money. SH has many contacts and power you really think NK can hide himself in those conditions? It’s pretty not realistic
/! chapter 27 spoilers
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So I read the chapter hours ago and I’ve seen many vast opinions.
But firstly why there are so many people in surprise? I mean I guess we all had an idea of what was going to happen in that chapter (actually I was excepting worst coming from Seungho). Most of these people want Seungho to be gentle and sweet but I mean it’s not the case I’m 50% sure that he will MAYBE change but not that fast.
What I liked during the "begging scene" is that Nakyum hadn’t to say anything just in their look they understood each other (seungho really has a NK crying kink istg) and it wasn’t just him begging to Seungho to not kill the learned sir.
The flashback in his mind was a key for me, we had a little aspect of what happening in his head and as we assumed he’s clueless about this new obsession of Nakyum. So how can he change when he is still not aware about his own ""feelings "".
These few chapters were more like SH pov I would like to see more about NK feelings after all of that he cried a lot (my poor baby) I really anticipate his character development he didn’t realize yet the power he holds in his hands. Without even trying he already manipulates in some way SH so it would be very interesting to see where it could go.
I have some theories in my head about what could happens between the two but let’s see how the Authors-nim will make it !!
YES!!! THIS ONE!!!
So firstly I restarted the manhwa from the beginning to have a clearer mind. I saw a lot of people down there claiming that Nakyum NEVER felt anything towards Seungho and I’m here to say my thoughts about it.
We going back at the first time Nakyum painted for Seungho, tbh everyone could see the sexuel tension between them, it’s even bc of it that one of the sex partener of SH got mad at him for not being focus on him. NK got excited after that and dreamt about SH.
The second time was with the red haired boy the tension between NK and SH was really heavy for everyone there. NK couldn’t even paint anything at this moment he kept make eye contact with SH he kinda felt bad about it and thought about his learned teacher. And it’s after that SH masturbated him.
What NK feels towards SH is a mixt of fear and luxure but since the fear is more presents he didn’t even realize the chemistry between then but it’s different for SH he felt that too and he’s more aware about luxure and after the r4pe scene his obsession with NK grew deeper.
Anyway so what I’m pointing at is that NK wasn’t totally emotional less towards SH even if it wasn’t love it was some sexual attraction that nobody couldn’t not see. What do yall think about it? Let’s discuss ^^
I think most people got that point. But I also agree with them that Nakyum never felt anything. Sexual tension doesn’t count as feelings does it? Put it like this, 2 homosexual guys in their prime stuck in a small room with the smell of sex in the air and another third wheel (red haired guy) panting heavily, naked. It’s reasonable that Nakyum who’s still wet behind the ears to feel lust over such a dominating hot male. But the moment you splash cold water on the heat, he sobers. There’s no feelings. If a person had to have feelings involved each time they felt sexually attracted to another person then there would be no one- night stands.
I agree with their sexual tension in the earlier chapters but after the raws? I just can't see NK getting turned on by SH anymore without him experiencing emotional, mental and physical trauma. Imagine doing everything the master asked, against your will, but still being treated like literal shit? And SH acting like he 'cared' after hurting him?? I'd be pretty pissed if it was me
(but it isn't. and this is yaoi. one miraculous plot twist from the author and i'm all aboard this ship again dang.)
Yeah that’s true but I think being sexually attracted to someone is also a feeling but ofc not the same one as being in love idk if it’s clear. But I agree with you
I also agree with that that’s why I’m so excited to see what will happen next how all of this will develop, I really love how the story is going and I’m sure that Author-nim will not just make those Yaoi clichés, let’s see!
I think that what is clearly seen as attraction in both guys hides in fact deeper meanings (than simple carnal lust for the unknown). At least this is how some of us view them as we're here for romance.
Though as Seungho and Nakyum are so stubborn in each their own way and blinded by their respective considerations of things, they're for the moment CLUELESS about the feelings that (may) grow between them.
Seungho is clearly aware of this attraction being a person of lust, and he wants sex with NK as much as he can, while NK is completely in denial now about everything concerning Seungho after what happened.
If the Lord was more, more subtul; treated the little dude much kindly and with patience, he would have his way with him, but not like this.
Now the Lord knows that he really fucked things up between them.
I definitely agree! If you just take away the fact that SH did horrible things to NK for a second (because I just can't behind it for real), NK has a very conservative mindset towards what is 'good'. It's the same definition as InHun's beliefs-- the homophobic, "you musn't do this and that, otherwise you're bad" type of thinking. Whereas SH is easily branded as the 'devil' or the 'don't go near him' guy. But ironically, he's more woke about his era's errors than most of these characters. He's very self-aware of societies' prejudices and seem to have an opinion of his own.
Again, if the "questionable" scenes didnt happen (being vague so I don't spoil anything), I do think NK would eventually realize that 'goodness' isn't black and white. Goodness doesn't come from 'acting kind when everybody else is looking', like how InHun is. Goodness could come from the likes of Seungho, if you just hold your judgement about his nightly 'recreational' activities.
This manhwa could've taken that route of redemption for SH but I'm guessing it won't. I have a feeling it's going down the darker route, not allowing the readers to sympathize with SH. Which is also very, very interesting in my opinion. Either way, this manhwa has got me hooked!
it’s EXACTLY that!!
Seung Yoon is a bit of a narcissist...the proof is in how aroused he gets seeing himself in the erotic paintings and he fanboys over how Baek Nakym captures the moments. His and Baek's eyes connected many times while Yoon was sexing...Yoon looked at him as a modern day sex freak would stare at the mirrors around his bed and Baek, well I think Yoon called it--that Baek drew the scenes that aroused him the most. Sexual tension? Yes, but not necessarily due to sexual attraction for each other. Baek is 100% teaminhun and always has been. Yoon has misunderstood it all bc as a narcissist he thinks it is all about him--he made assumptions about the tension behind their eye contact, about Baek's sexual experience and about who Baek was really making love to (in his mind) the night he lost his virginity.
I get your point but tbh I don’t agree with all of this. Firstly yeah Seungho is a narcissist I think we all agree with that but saying that there wasn’t any attraction between them it’s not true for me.
When he took nakyum virginity when he looked at his face he truly felt that. I think he is really attracted to nakyum and not just his self idk how to put it?? During their first time he was "taking care" of nakyum it wasn’t just about his own self he wanted nakyum to enjoy as him, something that he didn’t care with the red haired man. We can see his "care" during the second r4pe scene when he noticed that nakyum wasn’t into to it we clearly see that he wasn’t satisfied so it’s not just about him and his pleasure.
Your original post focused on Baek's view/feelings toward Yoon that was what I was responding to in my post. The sexual attraction Yoon felt for Nakym is real, I agree. It started around the time he was playing poem keep-away for him. Yoon's narcissism couldn't accept Baek placed inhun on a higher level. Yoon then started to become infatuated with Baek at that point- wondering what this strange fellow was thinking. When Sihwa started taking an interest too it actually encouraged Yoon to be into Baek more. Yeah Yoon was gentle in how he took Baek and for that time together he played the role of a lover not a fkbuddy (as he was with sihwa). I don't think Yoon would have made the first move on him beyond jerking him off in that previous chapter BUT now after having tasted the emotional pleasure of making love with the physical pleasure off climax, Yoon wants to make the painter his.
For real guys I understand what yall meant by it but it’s so tiring to see every comments comparing the both works. It’s really so different it’s absolutely not the same narrative in both so just enjoy or dislike both if you want without feeling the need to compare. Thank you
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What I forgot to say in my earlier comment is that I don't think SH is feeling guilty about what he did to NK. I think if he is this messed up since NK passed out, it's bc what he felt at this moment, the way he couldn't sleep during the days NK was unconscious (10 days) and the worry, all that feelings bring him back to how he was before NK came. The way he couldn't sleep etc. due to his trauma.
Besides that he found a peaceful play around NK that's why he wants him to come in his room that's why he smiled at him this way (it was so cute but also so sad and desperate). At this very moment I don't think SH can do sexual stuff even with NK and that's for the better maybe we can expect some conversations between the two.. I hope so!
just realized my "earlier comment" wasn't got posted... I wanna K word myself haha (╬⌒▽⌒)凸
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