You know, thinking back, Shoto's been seriously abused. His father beat him during practices to toughen him up, his mother threw boiling water in his face, and just recently his eldest brother was in the process of burning him alive before being stopped. Yet strangely he hasn't become a mass murderer nor tried to kill Fuyumi and/or Natsuo.
The circumstances for both of them are very different. Shouto never looked up to Endeavor, there wasn't a time that he looked at his father with admiration or hope, Touya did and he suffered because of it. The way he wasted aside like he had no value, for a child that is extremely overbearing. Im not saying Shouto didn't suffer, he did very much so but that does not diminish Touya's pain or his truama.
see that's what im saying! i can't defend dabi for killing poeple. i understand that abuse and hatred led him to this point, but in the end your actions are your choice. in the end both touya and shoto were seriously abused and only one decided to mass murder.
Touya wasn't abused & willingly wanted to do the training.
He looked up to Endeavor & to be tossed aside like that must've really mentally hit him..
Even if they did it for his own sake he didn't really understand that way.
He is in the wrong, but at the same time he isn't ?
Shoto was mentally stronger than him, and he got the chance to meet Midoriya.
Touya killed himself and became crazy..
I don't know who "saved" him but that person still got a huge impact on him..
What's more is that Dabi seem weirdly similar to Shigaraki in certain way.
As if he was still a child trapped in an adult body, as for his caprice & the extreme he take just to piss off his dad..
You really are comparing the trauma of two people in very different circumstances
Yes exactly, they both despite being brothers had very different childhoods. Neglect is abuse as well. Just because he initially wanted the training you can't say he wasn't abused. Any five year old would look up to their dad with stars in their eyes and want to learn.
"What's more is that Dabi seem weirdly similar to Shigaraki in certain way.
As if he was still a child trapped in an adult body, as for his caprice & the extreme he take just to piss off his dad.. "
That's a good catch. I didn't even realized that similarity until you pointed it out.
Hmm . . . I'm not sure how Shoto, who carries a permanent scar on his face from the boiling water his mother threw on him, will be able to walk away from this fight without any scars from Touya's fire.
Touya's fire is burning his own body up and poor Hawks had his wings and back burned off. So Shoto should in theory be pretty scarred up.
This is going to be good. Stain wasn't against heroes he was just against those he deemed as fake heroes, and though he was labeled a villain I don't think he was one of your traditional villains who want to take over the world or kill and harm for sport. He even surpisingly saved Midoriya from a Nomu. So what is going to be his role going forward?
I can't wait to find out what happened to everyone else, even class B; I wonder how they faired in that brutal battle.
I don't know if this was already brought up but I'm going to do some speculating here.
You remember the warp gate villain Kurogiri is really a Nomu brought to life from the remains of Aizawa's friend right? So what if Dabi is actually a Nomu brought to life from the remains of Touya. That might explain why there was a jaw at the scene yet Dabi has both his jaws (you can see it when he smiles) and why Dabi has this kind of Frankenstein like appearance. Other body parts were swapped in to repair the damage from the fire. But since Dabi keeps using his power even those body parts are getting damaged. And that could explain the missing years between when he disappeared and when he reappeared.
I should probably stop harping on Dabi but his behavior just astounds me. He has spent more of his life away from Endeavour than actually with him and the beginning years of life don't even appear to be bad yet he's pretty cold blooded.
Natsuo is walking around feeling upset about his brother's death. Even after all these years the pain is still there. Meanwhile, Dabi sends a villain out that nearly kills Natsuo and his reaction to nearly losing Natsuo is basically like - I could care less if Natsuo died. Natsuo - the same brother that he played together with and the same brother that comforted him when he was upset. This is an interesting look at how each views the other.
Dabi said the past never forgets . . . But what about the past with his brothers and sister. The past certainly seems to have forgotten the love he received from them. I guess Dabi's past has selective amnesia when it's convenient .
When you are a child things always feel bigger than what they are.
I'm an adult and if someone started to yell at me saying I should kill myself well, I would feel scared and bad about it, but I have coping mecanisms I can rationalize it and say (and feel) "the problem is not me, the responsability lies in that person".
A child on the other hand doesn't have that, it takes that experience and makes it theirs, it gets processed differently, to my understanding Natsuo, just like Fuyumi, was neglected (a type of abuse too) while Touya was actively getting physically and mentally abused.
In Touya's case I think he broke from all the kind of attention he received, first he was the golden child, first born with a good quirk with his parents being proud of him, then he was defective, his quirk hurt him and he kept getting pushed, then he was set aside and replaced, his little brother had the perfect quirk, there's a reason parenting books always talk about discipline being consistent.
Though as I have always said, after you are 18 it's your own responsability to take charge of your own mental health but I understand depending on the case it could be very complicated I feel like we are still missing a lot information about Enji and Touya and wonder if we'll get it.
It's interesting how the author is juxtaposing Dabi's character with Hawk's character. They both grew up in abusive households but took vastly different paths. One's past lead him to become a villain the other's lead him to become a hero.
Why? - It was their choices.
I have to disagree. Dabi was abused by a hero and never received justice. While hawks was abused by a Villain and was served justice by his own hero, endeavour. The same person who abused Dabi and his family for years. It’s more than just choices that led them down there path.
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Mhm agreeee
You know, after reviewing chapter 266, I realized Dabi was going to burn an injured Twice alive in order to try and kill Hawks. His own comrade he was willing to kill. He didn't even hesitate; he just went in blazing even though he knew Twice (not a copy) was right there and could be hurt. The only reason Twice wasn't burned was because Hawks got him out of the way in time.
I'm even more convinced now that Dabi doesn't actually care about the League the way the others care about each other as a sort of make shift family. Dabi is straight up ruthless. He's just using the League to accomplish his goal of taking down his father and the hero society and if the League members die in the process? . . . Well, as he said . . . "it's fine."
Look at his thought process when Twice got away from Hawks but was still pretty badly injured (dude was barely keeping himself together). Dabi wasn't thinking "my god my friend is hurt let me help him" it was 'with you alone we can get rid of those heroes. Go wild."
In my view Dabi isn't really one of them (a League member) he's just pretending to be because it serves his purposes well.
Hmm...I think the senpai Bokugo is referring to is Neijire since probably the last time he saw her was when Dabi set her on fire. I'm wondering how she's doing as well. It's curious that we haven't seen any of the Big 3 nor Best Jeanist (who was spitting up blood the last time I saw him).
Kudou was just a child that needed help. But so many just couldn't be bothered to know him or help him. Thank god for Tetsuki and his family. Tetsuki really is a guy with an awesome heart.
(And may I say again the art work is awesome!)