Honestly I'm so used to this, sometimes I don't get what people are complaining about. Um cute story, great art, damn Yuzuru be looking mad fine and lil baby Yuzuru was adorable. How tf r people hating on Hisaki ? and calling him a slut ?? He's anything BUT a slut ! He's only had sex with Yuzuru and the rest was just for his job that he wasn't even into. Anyways where's the rest of it, I wanna see their married life ToT
WAIT, why are people debating the ML ? Is it not Jeffery ? To Charlotte, she only sees her disciples as kids so I honestly don't think she would consider Ivan as a romantic love interest. Also I just wanna point out when Charlotte was in the world Eldow created and she saw Jeffery's grave, there was a *throb* sfx after saying "No matter how fantastic it is, Jeffery's death. I've never even imagined it" meaning she's now aware of the chance he could actually die and is hurt over the thought.
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.Jeffrey will live on.... but ended up with someone else who is not Charlotte.... is what I heard..... But nothing confirmed....
And that Charlotte ended up with that white haired dude whose real identity is the demon king she defeated long ago...
That’s what I heard. No real evidences been provided yet.
Honestly that's fair enough. Despite my initial comment, I don't actually mind who becomes the ML but I started reading this story when it first came out and of course read the comments. As I was reading the earlier comments some spoilers were there and they all stated that Jefferey was the actual ML cause I also used to think that Ivan was the ML, so I started rooting for Jeffery once I knew he was end game. Now everyone is saying different things and I'm becoming confused... ?(  ̄□ ̄||)
You're right, charlotte sees them as children and her goal is to save them, we don't know what will happen because we are still in the eldow's arc, which is very, very long, nothing is safe in the manhwa and there is no spoiler because the manhwa is original, this has no novel, the only spoilers we can give you are only the current chapters (which are already 80) so far we have only seen charlotte and Jeffrey in the past of eldow, the author hasnt said nothing or mentioned with who she is going to end up with, you can go to see her official site to confirm it
https://m.blog.naver.com/PostList.nhn?blogId=dydyddl7¤tPage=4
I see that "spoiler" impossible, impossible that Jeffrey loves another woman and easily forgets charlotte, his love for her is not a joke, Evan have a happy ending after hurting innocent people? I dont think, it is possible that when everything passes he will serve his sentence in Marveil, he will have to receive the punishment for committing crimes, dk with a happy ending? That sound crazy, after harming so many people and continuing to torment her, the only thing that demon will have is a bad ending, I don't know how the ending will be, but the disciples must learn to stop depending on Charlotte and charlotte lives a life in peace.
Chapter 80 spoiler
Eldow put everyone in an illusion so that they will not harm Tenzel who wants to revive to Calamity and is being manipulated, which shows their traumas and desires, Dan experienced the illusion where people despise him for being half demon, the Jeffrey's illusion is about charlotte, her in couple's pajamas on a bed and him watching her, finally charlotte and her fight with Calamity (I suppose that fight left sequels on her, she will never forget when that demon destroyed everything 100 years ago and possibly I take her eye off (possible because I don't know if it was him or another demon) or when he threatened to devour her) so ... Get your theories out with that summary of chapter 80
a fake spoiler.
Eldow's illusion shows 2 things
1. the trauma of the person entering: Charlotte's is losing Jeffrey
2. What she most desires: That her disciples have happy lifes.
Jeffrey is the ML (there are more clues in addition to that illusion like more than 15), there is information that I know but I cannot reveal it, it is not about the ML but about something else
I haven't been on this story for a while cause I was waiting for chps to come out but please I love Asher and Aria so much !! I can't believe my boi confessed and Ari realised her feelings, I hope they can be able to freely be together soon and become the best power couple !! I wanna see them rule the kingdom and support and love each other 。:゚(。ノ︵\。)゚・
I have a lot to say about this story.
Okay so first of all, I read this story YEARS ago and re-read it for the second time today. Please tell me why the ending is completely different from my memories (and other people seems to have this problem too!) The start was the same but as I was reading the story my brain was getting confused and angry cause I remember Take and Mine ended up together and Hiroi left the 3p due to his jealousy and understood TxM love and Hiroi having character development contemplating his morals of sharing his things. Is this what people call the 'Mandela Effect' when different people have a shared false memory of a certain event?
Anyways I don't really know where to start but I literally spent like 10 hours of my day brooding over this manga and reading a majority of the comments and was shocked to see people thinking that this was a "healthy, perfect representation of a balanced poly relationship", Like mam' NO, please visit a therapist then a relationship expert or whatever they're called if you think this. People also say Hiroi is necessary and is like a glue for the relationship to work but I think that is COMPLETELY FALSE.
Anyways, let's start with our Uke Mine. Mine is literally in an abusive relationship right now, one of his partner is physically abusing him and the other partner is abusing him mentally and emotionally and is manipulating both of the characters but the story does not clearly show this. Mine does NOT have ANY power or say in the relationship AT ALL and all of the power is given to Hiroi. I do believe he should be with Take more as I feel he is the lesser evil of the two and we are not shown another character. Also the chemistry between him a Take... please it's OFF THE CHARTS. People don't realise this but sexual compatibility is actually kinda important in a relationship, it's just part of human nature. I really want to see Take leave the 3p and find someone else then see how long Hiroi and Mine last cause even Hiroi said it "You're still not satisfied, only I stuck it in" or something along the lines. We can also see that Mine and Take are more open with each other and see each other as equals, shown when Take hits Mine and Mine is able to hit him back.
Moving on to Take, My child here is fucked up that's for sure, but ever since he was young Hiroi shared everything with him so he grew up thinking it was normal. We were told that the little feelings he had towards his previous partners were gone as they start to only like him and others think it's the same with Mine too explaining why people think Hiroi is necessary, which is again false because this is the first time we actually see Take becoming possessive and wants something for himself hence marking Mine and was explained that he marked/bit the same spot multiple times to make sure the scar was permanent. The only reason he is mean towards Mine is because he cares about Hiroi and doesn't want a repeat of past relationships, if Take was actually nice, Hiroi would have to pack it up. (⌒▽⌒) Like if it was one or twice that their previous partners left Hiroi for Take it would be considered a coincidence, but if it was all the time.... it says a lot doesn't it.....
Finally Hiroi... FUCK YOU BITCH !! I hate your ass please pack it up, take a hike and jump off a cliff oh. my. GAWD (╯°'Д °)╯╧╧
He's a toxic and manipulating ass who is abusing the good feelings Mine and Take have towards him and forced Mine to have a relationship and sex with Take even though he didn't want to and gave him an ultimatum that if Mine didn't submit to his selfish request he would leave him. Let's also bring up the fact Hiroi tried forcefully shoving his miniscule dick in Mine when Take was already inside even tho Mine clearly said "NO" crying and how dare you want them to get along but then get jealous when they actually do get along and fucking placing a dogshit rule where they can only have a certain amount of sex without your ass, like please you said it yourself, your lousy ass and micro dick don't satisfy Mine anymore ( ՞ਊ ՞)☞ AND HIS ONLY REASON FOR LIKING MINE IS BECAUSE OF HIS DEPLORABLE INFERIORITY COMPLEX TOWARDS TAKE PFFT :)
Like, I love my fair share of fucked up and toxic shit in stories man, I really do but Hiori was NOT IT !! (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸
Yeh I agree with pretty much everything (minus the sexual compatibility being super important thing - I'm ace - though I do think it's important I also think relationships cod go completely without sex but that's just me (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜)
BUT ABOUT HIORI I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I think it was selfish of him to force other people into this relationship dynamic thing but I also think that it was super selfish of him do that to take too and I feel like if we were shown more background to the story of HIORI and takes friendship, it would most definitely be manipulative. If even take were to start hanging out with others I feel like he would have most definitely did something really shity that would end with him forcing take to stay in a relationship with him and he has this really weird amount of power of take as well. Like he seems to be able to control what relationships take has, with who, when and how he is around them.
IDK, maybe I'm just being paranoid but he just so shady to me istg.
Damn, I literally agree with you in this one. I honestly preferred Take over Hiroi and thought that the 3p's arrangement/sex is all messed up. I was actually waiting for some kind of realization to happen but, sadly it did not. Well, all ends that ends well is good so i just hope they're happy with the decisions they made. (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜
I agree with absolutely everything and I remember reading this along better go saying oh this is kind of weird but whatever and then me reading it the second time before now of course and then being like no and I made a claim just like yours a little bit more messy though because I can articulate some of my thoughts but I agree with the three comments in with you except the top one because I didn’t take the time to read it but yeah like the person said sex doesn’t have to be that important but the whole premise is that Take Legitimately is trying not to be nice not to be more pure and genuine forcibly so he won’t leave the other guy but the bottom he does this because he realizes when he doesn’t want to hurt the other guy but he thinks the other guy the bottom will leave him as well which for a bit maybe but I really do think he’d go back to him
Take I mean of course he go back to him at one point or another or they get together I feel like if they were left in that house by themselves with the other guy just gone for like a couple months they would legitimately develop a really genuine relationship they would feel guilty for time and even break up because of the other guys manipulation but I feel like when he saw him again they would realize shit he’s really manipulative
Because we’re actually interested in us and majority of the things were not taught is either not propaganda or water down bullshit there’s actually a lot of stuff in school that if they told you the full truth people would be way more into it so yeah we’re just not into it the same way and it’s easier to dissect but I am at least not in school anymore thank God I am 21
QuarterBreedSlumDogBillionaire really be mad about NTR and cheating when he has Incest, Rape, Furry & DORAEMON SMUT in his reading lists. Like...man's really cannot be talking right now..
cheating is where I draw the line ヽ(`Д´)ノ
Erm cheating is the worst sin so Erm :/
you cannot be talking about sins when you've just committed one by reading this in the first place
your reading list's is where i draw mines