After Min Hyuk came & saved Soo Young you swoop in & snatch him away when 5 minutes ago you were saying you hoped he gets hurt so he'll stay with you. And how is Tae Seung supposed to be better than the first guy Soo Young was with? They're both abusive just in different ways. In fact I'd argue that Tae Seung is worse. I kinda want Soo Young to end up with Min Hyuk but I know that won't happen so I want him to stop treating the guy who likes him like crap. Maybe they can start dating (=・ω・=)
I always like minhyuk for soo young but damn! We know that soo young always thinking of that dickhead so yeah ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Harsh truth but it needs to be said. The reason why some of y'all get so livid when people comment negatively about the rape/sexual assault in a manga is because while you may not think that rape in real life is ok, you have become extremely desensitized to it, especially if you read a lot of yaoi which most people on this site do. I've said numerous times that I read manga with rape all the time & I don't have a problem once it's seen as the horrible act it is. The truth is in way too many yaoi mangas (or ecchi/hentai mangas in general) there's a lack of consent & the offending person usually faces little to no consequences for their actions, in fact it often happens that they are rewarded with the person they raped returning their feelings despite the fact that that's a sick & twisted "love." Whether you want to admit it or not, the media you consume has a huge impact on your psyche. This has been proven time & time again. Proof of your desensitization is the fact that you're telling people (especially in regards to this particular story) to leave & stop reading it if they don't like it, instead of addressing the legitimate concerns they have.
With Rix Vanus, as we've been saying over & over, *everyone* reading this story knew there'd be rape. It was in the first fucking chapter! We're not simply addressing rape here, we're talking about the fact that it has become normalized in this story. Someone attempts to/actually rapes/sexually assaults Rix, Rix gets away somehow, Rix completely forgets/doesn't care about what just happened to him, the person faces no consequences for what they just did/attempted to do, it's swept under the rug & forgotten about like it never happened, lather, rinse, repeat. If you're telling people to shut up about this it's because you think rape is ok just because it's fiction & that is concerning. Because you've seen rape be treated as if it's not a big deal, you're starting to think that as long as it's not real it's ok.
Stop telling us to just drop the manga. Because I can tell you if you hate seeing people talking about the rape to stop going to the topics. We've been reading this story for months & have fallen in love with the characters & initial storyline. Some people need to vent their frustrations about a manga they thought looked promising & became invested in. It's illogical to think that people will just drop a story they've been invested in for months without saying a word.
SO WELL SAID. sometimes I have to stop and think a little more critically, I like with 100% perfect or sum, they apologized and then took time to heal and it’s just not happening here. Also, it defiantly has an affect on your brain so we should be more careful in what we as readers consume like and support. All in all tho this take was super good
I'm sad that I am desensitized by rape. I read so many yaoi manga to the point where I see it and I can continue reading it. The problem is the Authors of yaoi. So many of them go the rape route. To the point where you have to be desensitized to it, so you can continue reading the story plot.
ME!! I feel so bad about it to, but when they down play it a ton I also feel shorty for trying to convince myself that it’s fine. Or when they’re like ‘your saying no but your body blah blah blah’ is also so weird looking at it in a critical way. I wish that this story didn’t trely so heavily on raping Rix all the time cuz the style and main plot is so nice. But I need to personally work on trying to be more specific with what I read and enjoy.
Same hunny, same, like we got desensitized by it all. It is sad, but not a lot we can do. The Author typically goes the rape route even when we don't want them to. I just keep reading it for the plot. Nothing much we can do.
What I do to try & prevent this from happening, I drop a manga that has those kinds of disgusting lines every now & then. Most times I force myself to read through, but sometimes I stop myself because it's too much to handle
Thank you!
I totally agree, while we may voice that we dislike the rape and it makes us sad doesn't necessarily mean we don't want to continue with the book. I'm in love with this story however when it get to the point where you're sending threats to the author and shaming the creative process is another Matter entirely. Rape isn't okay. Sex without consent isn't okay, however this is up to the author. Now we can either keep reading, we can complain or we could drop the book entirely but really I hope we can have a little optimism and see a silver lining where the author finally let's Rix take control of his situation and we can see a happy ending for nuah and rice because jeez Rix is a beautiful man and it hurts seeing how he's taken advantage of but I really want to believe it'll get better. I love him and nuah soooo much.
Same. I don't think I'll drop it either because I really like the story despite what's happening here. I just hope it doesn't continue & I don't think people should be attacking the author either. There's a difference between criticism & hate.
Exactly, nothing is wrong is you disagree with how things are going there are aspects you like and aspects you may hate but I draw the line at endangering a real person's life or just being really awful directly to the author. They have feelings too so i'm praying things get better for the book. This book literally can be solely on breaking Rix, that would break my heart. We have to keep our fingers cross for our boys. Rix and Nuah we're rooting for your happiness!
Lol i see so many errors. I meant it can't be solely to break him. Like Rix is so precious and Nuah is too.
It's ok I totally got what you meant & I agree
Thanks^_^
THANK YOU!! IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR MONTHS ON ITHER STORIES. AND I GET ATTACKED EVERYTINE I DO
I'm sorry to hear hun. People can be so awful.
People on this site can be a bit overbearing at times lol
I think, don't quote me on this, but I think a lot of people are desensitized and used to seeing rape in BL stories. So when they see someone complain about it, they automatically tell you to drop the story. They see you as someone who is complaining about the author work. So if you have a problem with it you can leave. It is unfavorable and harsh. But yeah people are desensitized by rape in fictional stories.
One day we'll talk about the erasure of black & brown Egyptians from media. Btw this isn't an attack on the webtoon or anything I'm just tired of seeing this
I agree strongly
Rix is in the forest looking for food while Nuah decided to wait for him at the inn. Suddenly, a group of forest animals start touching Rix in a perverted way!!! Will Rix be able to resist the lewd forest dwellers??? Or will his body give in to the pleasure??? Tune in next time to find out!!
Literally (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Stop saying because the manga has a rape tag we should expect rape. Rape isn't necessarily the issue here. All of us would've read in the beginning where that demon was raping Rix. And we still read on because the story had potential. What the demon was doing to Rix was seen as a horrible thing that he'd eventually pay for. Now later on in the story everyone & their grandpa is getting a piece of Rix with no future repercussions. Someone just assaulted Rix & he let them kiss him & touch his nipples after they assaulted him. Wtf! I don't think the author is going to stop this anytime soon. So we're allowed to complain about it because the rape arc of this story makes no sense. And this started off so good too. It's really sad.
umm...not to be rude but the tags are there to give you an idea of what the story is about so saying that is kinda stupid. and also this story started off rapey so if you didn’t like that your couldve just dropped it. no one told you to keep reading it so if you didn’t like wat you read you shouldve just left
i see ur point. just bc it has a rape tag in it doesnt mean rape has to always be in it throughout the entire story lol sure if the author thinks it's a staple part of the storyline's progression then go ahead. but if not, like the part with the incubus that almost just served as a filler and not an arc, then thats just,, yikes ?
did you... did you actually read their comment? Just because a manga has a rape tag doesn't mean there needs to be multiple acts of assault and rape???? It would've been fine if it was just used as a plot point at the beginning (which it was, and it was seen as bad), but now it just keeps happening for absolutely no reason?? Why is everyone's go-to line "just stop reading it!" and not "but is the rape/assault really crucial to the story?". I absolutely do not mind rape tropes if it's seen as the bad thing it is, and the plot cannot progress without it. Rix however just keeps getting assaulted for no damn reason. It really isn't crucial to the plot at all, and people are allowed to express their discomfort at this without people barking at them to shut up
we have the same sentiments like why are yalls asking us to stop reading it if we're legitimately here for the plot and we just dont see the rape making sense for the plo's progression further like whats not clicking
Once again, it's not the rape, it's the fact that it adds nothing to the story & makes absolutely no sense. I read manga with rape all the time with no problem. Rape in fiction is not triggering to me. And I'm allowed to give my opinion on the story. Positive comments aren't the only ones that matter. I'm continuing the story because I like how it started off & I hope it gets better soon.
This whole comment!!!! Exactly what I'm saying!! Rape in manga isn't triggering to me, I can understand for some it's that way though. The main point is that Rix is just being raped for the sake of being raped.
The Incubus himself said Rix wasn't his type but proceeded to rape him in his dream. it's laughable at this point
right??????? like damn make up ur mind or something lmao
yea i get that but if youre reading for the plot and youre not liking the way its progressing then you should probably stop reading it. theres no point in reading something you dont like
ik that i was basically jus saying that this is the way the author wants the story to go. if a person dont enjoy it then they should probably drop it. if they keep coming back its not jus gonna magically change the story that they wrote already so theres no point in getting angry about it and complaints after every chapter is pointless
You can't just expect that people would just leave without saying a word. We've been invested in the story for months. It's ok that you have no problem with it, but other people are allowed to have different opinions & voice them. That's like saying if you like a story you can't talk about how good it is every chapter. Like I said, positive comments aren't the only ones that matter. It's not as if we hate the story, we just don't like how it is going now. I'm just hoping that this doesn't continue.
thats why i said wat i had said. theres nothing wrong with saying wat you dont like about something but after a while if you keep complaining about the exact same thing its jus dumb. its like going to a restaurant and seeing your favorite dish on it bit when you get it it’s disgusting and then later when go back instead of getting something else you order the same disgusting dish. you know its nasty there so why get it again and why not go somewhere else where you know its good. thats why i was saying theres no point in reading something you wont enjoy. the best bet would be jus to wait till its complete to read the entire plot or jus drop it al together. no ones forcing anyone to read something where they arent enjoying the story
But people ARE going to complain about it for a while because they've been reading the manga since July of last year. Using your analogy, it's like you frequently go to this restaurant & the food is really, really good, you become friends with the management & staff & everything (because people ARE in love with the characters & the plot) & all of a sudden your favourite dish at that restaurant starts tasting like garbage. It's not that all the food has gotten bad, it's just that item in particular. Would you simply stop going to the restaurant you've loved for so long? Or would you talk about it to the manager & hope they get it right again? Because it's not as if we all just hate the story now, we hate a particular aspect of the story that isn't necessary to the plot at all. We still love the characters & the original storyline. So why should we just drop it & pretend we didn't spend months invested in the story & falling in love with the characters?
i dont think youre understanding what im saying but im done trying to explain
Rix wakes up and remembers that the person in his room sexually assaulted him in his sleep. That's why he threw a dagger at him. But as soon as the person that raped you asks for a kiss you go along with it???? Rix goes along with it??? After being embarrassed that he kissed Nuah once?? As someone said we now have to ask who isn't going to get to fuck Rix at this point lmao. This is getting unbearable to read. I said before I wasn't gonna drop it but I'm considering doing that and only reading the first few of chapters again because this started off so good.
I personally don't have a huge problem with rape in fiction, as long as it's done right, meaning the rapist receives some kind of repercussions & the person who was raped can find some kind of closure. I am not one to complain every time I see a rape scene, & I think it's dumb to keep looking at a manga you know has rape scenes in it especially when you can see the tags. If it triggers you stay away from it as much as possible.
HOWEVER, this manga really is getting put of hand! Literally every few chapters Rix gets assaulted in some form. This latest scenario the Incubus wasn't even attracted to him!!! He's literally getting raped just because & I've only seen one person face repercussions for raping him, & it was only because that guy was a human trafficker so it was indirect. As many people already said, it's as if he author is just introducing more characters for them to/attempt to rape/assault Rix. Rix is just getting raped all the time & it's so hard to look at that. You have to turn off a piece of yourself to continue reading this (at least that's how it is for me) & detach yourself & once you're doing that what's the point of continuing this story??? I'm not gonna drop it but I understand why people want to. I just want to see Rix curse-free & happy. He doesn't need to be raped every 3 chapters. It doesn't aid in plot development at all.
P.S. I'm seeing this kind of stupid response everywhere so let me address it before someone replies, just because you personally have no problem with rape in manga (maybe you have a rape kink) doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have a negative reaction to it or criticise it when it makes no sense storywise. Atp I won't be surprised if Rix's horse tries to rape him.
I agree with you I was just really happy we’d gone past the rape thing and then boom....like seriously does it have to be rape....it’s not stable at all like how many times
This is like getting out of hand can Author-San stop for the fact that we readers are begging I know it’s fictional and all but it’ makes my skin crawl and I feel so bad for Rix but the story is so good however this rape thing should stop
And wasn't the incubus 10 years old as well?
Like.....seriously it’s a bit weird
I mean a 10 year old
Lol but yeah as people would say it’s fiction so....don’t blow your horn off
Ugh, I also hate that other excuse people useLike, just because something is fiction doesn't mean it's moral, good or ok. People are still allowed to criticise it within reason
I clicked off as soon as I saw that "Africans are savages" line. This is just completely racist. Idc how good you guys say the story is, I can't look past this.
Edit: I can't believe I have to say this but how the hell is "For example, how high school graduates are below university graduates, For example how Type B blood types are self-centered, For example how unmarried people are losers," in anyway on the same level as "For example how Africans are savages?!" Pray tell. There are any number of lines she could've used in place of that. Those 3 are just useless, harmless "stereotypes" that hurt NO ONE vs something that has gotten people of African descent killed for centuries!! And I'm not supposed to have a problem with it?! Read the fucking manga if you want, I never said you couldn't but don't tell me I'm being sensitive as if I'm putting a gun to your head to prevent you from reading this mangaka's work again. Please grow up people! Once again, thank you to the people with brains who can understand shit even if it doesn't affect them directly.
When I've read this, i thought that maybe it was ironical. It's such an offense that I m wondering how it could have been okay to publish this if it weren't the case. And except that, the story is excellent
I believe you guys, but could you show me where it says that. I mightve missed it. Its really sick.
First chapter on the 4th page probably. One of the first lines in the manga. Idc if she was trying to prove a point or something, that was racist
I read that chapter like 4 years ago so j didn't even remember something like that
Which chapter? Maybe the problem is with the translation and not the manga itself.
It's the second or third page of the first chapter
i have NO CLUE where they said that??? how did i miss that?? i know you're not kidding but seriously??
Even with or without context it's something shitty to say, but that's the thing, that all the things listed on the box was shit people say
The manga in itself has a great idea but I do understand that it made you uncomfortable and IT IS WRONG, that does not mean all the manga in itself develops in a line of racism
It is quite good and you can enjoy it
it's probably the bad translation. suddenly adding that to the story when it has no relation to the plot whatsoever just doesn't seem like author
i read it again and i agree with this^^ it wasn't meant to offend readers but rather it was a series of common offensive statements
Y'all so sensitive his saying it as a phrase so dumb HAHAHAHAHAHA Im not gonna be shock if you cancel someone for taking a shit y'all becoming karens now
if that's all you're here to comment about I don't get what you're aiming for. you seriously don't have to be rude about it.
I agree, its still a little confusing to me about the context of the manga, the story if I'm remembering correctly really had no link with the offensive phrase so like there was no need for it to be added. It might all be a miscommunication and bad translations. Everyone makes mistakes and its not really for us to say what the author was thinking or the translator. So eh
It is really quite easy for you all to say I'm being sensitive about it when you don't have to live with the effects of these kinds of stereotypes. Yes, I'm sensitive to racism because I have to live with the effects of it. To everyone who's not braindead & understands the problem, thank you.
I don't see how that could've been an error with the translation. I think that's what she meant to say.
Please shut the fuck up
Plz don't listen to them. They are being insensitive to the topic of the conversation so take what they are saying to the importance of a grain of salt. But it's easier to understand what they mean when you take into consideration what they are also saying. It might be a translation error or the translator being racist and other forms of mistakes. We just might never know.
Then you're saying like you gonna cancel the story for that's just words that didn't even have a meaning gljeez it doesn't even sound racist y'all cannot live in this world if your that sensitive... Stop reading this manga if you don't like the words here jeez you're just making a scene here....... Be realistic not everyone will adjust I really hate being oart of genz honestly full of sensitive kids who don't even know what real life is. Your not in some kind os fantasy word where everyone is kind to everyone accept that you will not survive life if you don't know how to be insensitive and strong sometimes arrgghhhhhh come to you're senses this is reality.
Ooops sorry for typos im just annoyed a little
that's not even the point anymore LMAO the topic was already settled but the problem now is questioning what right do you have to call it sensitive and dumb when you're not even in the receiving end? it proves just how far surface level thinking can take a person.
Look I tried to left this topic because I did understand what was the point of Megako-chan, the decision to keep or not reading its there, but IT HAS a sensitive topic that was brought to light, yes you don't have to cancel the manga or the author because you don't know if it was a bad translation but understand that is it wrong to use those kinds of sentences and it will be offensive. If you're on the receiving end of this you'll be the first one to jump into a fight
Meaning: everything you wrote.
Look I tried to left this topic because I did understand what was the point of Megako-chan, the decision to keep or not reading its there, but it has a sensitive topic that was brought to light, yes you don't have to cancel the manga or the author because you don't know if it was a bad translation or something else but understand that is it wrong to use those kinds of sentences
If you were on the receiving end you'll be the first to jump into a fight, meaning, everything you just did, who's the sensitive kid now?
Lol I even write it twice
If that person is a poc then you are a complete mf jerk. African savage line whether it was official trans or not is still RACIST and can trigger POC. You have NO PLACE to discuss whether it was funny or stupid,racist jokes aint funny and they will never be. Also if you are a poc talking that sht you are WORSE than whites brushing it off as a joke. Btw im a white person who hates whites we do exist by a big number
Hayyyssss ok I don't want to fight anymore tsk just don't read the manga if you hate "RACISM" you say okokok...
I haven't read all the comments in this thread, but I wanted to say, I'm a minority race myself & I believe within the context, it was meant to be ironic & point out the negative stereotype, i.e. other statements were unmarried people are losers, type b blood type are self centered. None of those things are true & the mangaka is making that point through irony.
That's the whole point.
can you like, just stop? we all get that the whole section here is a misunderstanding in the story but it's frustrating to see you still commenting on it as if you didn't just mock someone for finding this issue sensitive. thanks
You are a minority race, but are you black? Even if you are you must recognize that the line was completely unnecessary. Literally anything else would've been a good replacement for that line
Well look at you, you special little snowflake. You're calling me sensitive but you're the one annoyed by my comment pointing out racism, which I have to deal with. I haven't "cancelled the story" & I didn't tell anyone they can't read it because I don't want to. I gave MY fucking opinion on a shitty line that ruined the manga for me before I could finish reading it. You are naive & very childish if you think you can go around disrespecting people & they can't be offended by it. You think you're edgy & cool by being "insensitive & strong" but you need to grow tf up. The world doesn't work like that. You have no idea what "the real world" is.
I understand the context, I think that line was completely unnecessary & not on the same level as the rest of the things in the box. I'm not saying anyone else can't read & enjoy it. It's a problem for me.
you're totally valid. i also felt it was a weird and got uncomfortable as a afro-brazilian myself.
Yo, wtf just happened? Madoka was on the verge of stabbing &/or killing Koharu & just like that she's human agajn? "I hate that I can't have kids for the one I love & I also hate you, but CONGRATULATIONS!" That's not believable at all. IRL one day Madoka will just flip a switch & end up killing Koharu &/or her child. And they never explained why she hated Koharu so much, but not Yuzu. I get that Ryuu sees Koharu as "special" but Yuzu is also someone he loves & he had his 1st child with her. These people need help. The ones that need it the most are Ryuu & Madoka, Koharu is 3rd & Yuzu is just the average, poor-decision-making woman.
After forcing your child to start Judo when she didn't want to you're forcing her to quit by putting enormous pressure on her. What's up with the moms in this story? All of them except Eunyung's mom suck.
Wait wat do u mean haejoon's mom? Cause we haven't been introduced to eunyung's mom yet
Well yeah, I do mean out of the moms we've met