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Someoneyoudunno June 12, 2025 12:20 am

This story is called "Dysfunctional family therapy" for a reason, and so I guess it's living up to it's name.
Sentarou's life was sad because he lived as someone's shadows by becoming their ghostwriter, never gaining recognition for his own work and later ended up becoming unemployed and doing a job that he doesn't like.
Since his childhood, Touma never had anything he could call a happy family. His youth was wasted on his family's dirty dealings and later on, jail.
Also Meguru literally gets isolated by her pre-school friends. Isolation is a form of bullying. She also gets teased a lot for having no mother and father. Getting misunderstood by same age kids must be traumatic for her at such a young age, even though she hides it well in her expression.
Her mother was probably the most happy person in the whole world. Giving birth to a kid and never taking responsibility of her. Travelling the world before she dies while she left her child to the child's grandmother.
Meguru grew up not knowing what a mother's warmth and love feels like because her mother was so focused on herself. At her mother's own funeral, she had no expression, instead she was scared of being alone when she grabbed her grandma's hand. Her mother had the happiest life out of all of them. She was carefree, fickle, irresponsible, indecisive, remorse-less, she was so selfish she did whatever she wanted without even caring about her closed ones...I also didn't like Shouji (the child's actual father) that much.
Despite all of this, the three of them found a sense of belonging among each other. Because Sentarou and Touma have given up on their dreams or hope, they ended up finding comfort in an innocent child that was just as hurt as them. All of them hid their pain behind a mask of indifference.
So the title makes sense in a way I guess...

Someoneyoudunno May 22, 2025 7:42 pm

I don't know why, but I feel disappointed somehow. I think a more appropriate ending would've been better. It feels like nihilism for the sake of nihilism and It feels hopeless.
Also it's not realistic, It feels like it's trying to appear edgy. People die and there's no reaction from the outside world. MC and ML continue to live happily while committing mass murder by saying there will only be more rumors while leaving the house. They think no one will file a missing person report or report them even though ML used to live in that same house and MC knows the people that died? What gives them that confidence?
The story implies that no good people survives and the only happy people in this world are happy because they stole the happiness from others, which is not true for many people in this world! They're just making things up to make it appear hopeless!
The fact that many innocent people died for no reason also...(the cinema guy, the phone carrying stranger). Was that also because of MC and ML's malice? If that's so then they're not so weak and good, instead they're evil and psychopaths. Taejun (the mc) says that If it was (hyun-ju), his friend maybe she wouldn't be swallowed by her own self because she's not as weak as them and that made me think...that a lot of the explanations were skipped in this webtoon.
If black mirror is the inner self of people then why should hyun-ju's self be filled with malice? It could be that only MC and ML's black mirror are filled with malice because that's their true inner self!
Anyway It feels like a bad ending in a visual novel game.
It has all the traits of a bad ending - skipped explanation, doomed world/surroundings, acceptance of the unknown(bad outcome).
Also why did the mirror choose them? Why is their malice considered the strongest? Because they're special?
It says at the end that every people has their own black mirror...even if that's true then why can only they control the world with it, even killing people? It they wanted to give that explanation then their parents could've been chosen because of their malice too!
There could be more than two people who can control the black mirror because of that explanation but still only two of them can control the black mirror...and the story ends with them saying everyone has their own black mirror blahblah. Another thing that I don't understand is why are both MC and ML considered essentially the same being that are whole because of each other? Their body morph as one near the end...Are they even themselves? They don't look like human for sure, it's more probable for them to be the mirror version (fake) version of themselves. Also why did MC forget ML when he was a kid if they're so special to each other? Him forgetting ML just because he wanted to be liked by others doesn't make much sense. After he forgot ML, he even stopped listening to the whispers and seeing his own mirror self. That also doesn't make any sense. A person can't just forget such a huge part of his own life that easily...another thing I need to ask is why is the black mirror only in their black room? If every people can have their own black mirror then it could be in every home? The first case was seen in 18th century and that was not in the black room right? So why did ML always try to make MC go to the black room after he turned into an adult?
Anyway while it started good and scary, I ended up feeling unsatisfied with the ending...

    Hinata May 25, 2025 4:23 am

    I'm not reading all of that vro

    Someoneyoudunno May 25, 2025 7:37 am
    I'm not reading all of that vro Hinata

    You don't need to read it. :)
    It's just my personal opinion on a random webtoon that I've read

    Hinata May 25, 2025 1:32 pm

    I want to read it but it's Soo long like an entire Novel (╥﹏╥)

    Someoneyoudunno May 25, 2025 1:58 pm
    I want to read it but it's Soo long like an entire Novel (╥﹏╥) Hinata

    Understandable ദദ( ᵔ ᴗ ᵔ )

    Aie May 31, 2025 2:03 pm

    Oh, um… I think…

    So, first, the black room in their house is not THE Black Room. The “black room” is just a place where all the negativities are gathered - helplessness, weakness, anger, sadness, fear, and especially malice. It could be anywhere but for them, it was the room with the black door right across Yeon Woo’s parents’ bedroom. It was where they, as weak children who could not fight back against their abusers could only… um… I guess, “simmer” in their own negativities because they had no other outlet. That room, of course, isn’t the only “black room” and those mirrors aren’t the only “black mirrors”. For all we know, it might be only their supernatural powers that manifest through mirrors and others’ “malice” are through something else.
    That brings me to the second point. Joon saying everyone has their own black mirror does not go on to mean the two of them are the only ones who can control them. This fictional world is so large and, like the real world, pretty unfair. Of course, there could only be other people who were able to manifest and control their malice, otherwise it wouldn’t make much sense.
    Third, when Joon said Hyun Ju would have made a different choice, he probably meant that, if it was Hyun Ju in his situation, where he had already manifested his malice when he was a child and was able to somehow escape that, if it was Hyun Ju that night when he made the absolute choice of falling completely to the dark side, he thinks Hyun Ju might not have chosen to succumb as he did. Because he thinks Hyun Ju is a good and strong person. Joon believes that everyone, including good people like Hyun Ju, have black mirrors, but only weak ones like him and Yeon Woo will be swallowed up completely. Because strong people don’t need to rely on their black mirrors and can suppress the evil in them well enough.
    Fourth, Yeon Woo’s parents didn’t manifest their malice in the mirror world because they could completely release it in the real world, because they were adults who were evil and malicious and who had someone they could pick on and vent their malice on. That’s what made them different from Yeon Woo and Joon. The adults in their lives all had the strength to be able to vent their malice in the real world, abusing their kid, having an affair, cheating a child out of their inheritance, or like Joon’s friends, degrading others. Yeon Woo and Joon, when they were kids, could only helplessly accept the malice of the world and without being able to vent, could only keep it inside them. I guess, they were just unfortunate to be at the right time and place - when they weak, helpless children inside a small, closed place where they could do nothing but wish for salvation to anything that listened. Then it just grew and grew from there.

    You think this novel is edgy and sending out a hopeless message? I think this is like a dream come true for some. People like Joon and Yeon Woo, they have nothing behind them to lean on, always having to walk on eggshells and stay in line, so more often than not, they attract unwarranted and undeserved malice, almost as if malicious people have them in their radar and they become someone else’s punching bag. They could only wish for something and someone to do something they could not for them, to “avenge” them and make all the bad things and bad people disappear. This is the real black mirror: that thought inside your head, whispering in your own voice, wishing for other people’s misfortune, because your waking brain tells you, you can’t do it because you have to be “good”.

    Joon and Yeon Woo, they had no one so they could only be each other’s someone. Their malice isn’t strong enough to manifest by themselves, but when they’re together and nothing else matters, it’s a different story. I think that’s how they became one. Like how you wouldn’t do something bad on your own but you can do it as long as someone else does it with you. You think it’s not you, it’s their bad influence, while all along the other person is thinking the same.

    Hinata June 1, 2025 11:25 am
    Oh, um… I think…So, first, the black room in their house is not THE Black Room. The “black room” is just a place where all the negativities are gathered - helplessness, weakness, anger, sadness, fear, a... Aie

    U-uhh... That's an ENTIRE book in there ಡ  ʖ ಡ

    kiamwa June 7, 2025 3:03 am
    Oh, um… I think…So, first, the black room in their house is not THE Black Room. The “black room” is just a place where all the negativities are gathered - helplessness, weakness, anger, sadness, fear, a... Aie

    holy shit, this just completely changed my whole perspective on the story. are you a writer by any chance?

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Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 3:46 pm

In terms of story, what is the best bl you've ever read?

    Eva May 19, 2025 3:51 pm

    Mo Dao Zu Shi (both manhua and novel) will always be the best in my heart. I don't think I have ever been that invested in any other story of any kind

    Elio May 19, 2025 3:52 pm

    Stranger
    Leo
    Heaven officials blessing

    Elio May 19, 2025 3:53 pm

    Painter behind the curtains

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 3:55 pm
    Mo Dao Zu Shi (both manhua and novel) will always be the best in my heart. I don't think I have ever been that invested in any other story of any kind Eva

    I tried reading that but I had time understanding many things so I have up

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 3:55 pm

    *hard time understanding so I gave up

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 3:57 pm
    Stranger Leo Heaven officials blessing Elio

    Never heard of Stranger and Leo. Seems interesting. I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!

    this vulnerable one loves yaoi May 19, 2025 3:59 pm

    little mushroom. It won an award for best sci-fi so that speaks for itself. but aside from that maybe its the genuine and raw portrayal of humanity from the lenses of a non human character. its not just a love story of a mushroom and a judge, but also a love letter to humanity at its core. thats the best feeling i can describe reading little mushroom.

    additionally, global examination. this novel was the reason i got into thriller/survival game genres in the first place. just the concept of your path being so intertwined with somebody else that u find yourself meeting with them in time… again and again and again— not despite but amidst everything (iykyk)

    Wanda May 19, 2025 3:59 pm
    Painter behind the curtains Elio

    I was gonna say the sameeee

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 4:02 pm
    Painter behind the curtains Elio

    I remember reading half of it a long time ago and then stopped (judging by the cover). Maybe I should pick it up and read it again.

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 4:05 pm
    little mushroom. It won an award for best sci-fi so that speaks for itself. but aside from that maybe its the genuine and raw portrayal of humanity from the lenses of a non human character. its not just a love ... this vulnerable one loves yaoi

    I loved global examination a lot. I loved everything about it. Little Mushroom was depressing to read but It was still a really good read. The art was absolutely beautiful and it was really unique so I understand what you mean

    PrettyMenSupremacy May 19, 2025 4:18 pm

    Rainbow city novel
    Little mushroom is good too but it’s more on the emotional side whereas rainbow city has to do with secret ploys in the government, and the corruption of every side of humanity

    WeeperReaper May 19, 2025 4:22 pm

    Lost in the Cloud.

    The portrayal of trauma and realism and finding a solace ... it was absolute balance. I love the imperfections and how it was handled.

    JUST BEING ME May 19, 2025 4:40 pm

    Love tractor (I don't have any grandiose reason, but I really just want someone like the uke in my life)

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 4:41 pm
    Rainbow city novelLittle mushroom is good too but it’s more on the emotional side whereas rainbow city has to do with secret ploys in the government, and the corruption of every side of humanity PrettyMenSupremacy

    Rainbow city seems really good. It's in my "want to read" section because I want to read it completed (I have read a little bit of it and I loved it!) The main characters also remind me of Dokja and Joonghyuk? Reading your comment solidified why it's one of the best so I understand what you mean

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 4:52 pm
    Lost in the Cloud.The portrayal of trauma and realism and finding a solace ... it was absolute balance. I love the imperfections and how it was handled. WeeperReaper

    It's one of the highly rated manhwa here, so I went to read it. Sadly I couldn't like cirrus. He felt annoying to me (because of the blackmailing). So I dropped it really early. I understand why everyone likes it tho. Maybe I should've read the whole thing just to see how it goes but reading it made me feel anxious.

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 4:55 pm
    Love tractor (I don't have any grandiose reason, but I really just want someone like the uke in my life) JUST BEING ME

    He's one of the nicest, kindest and sweetest uke ever. So I agree with you. I also loved him

    Me_for_ president May 19, 2025 5:26 pm

    Sangyang:The Wanderer
    Little mushroom novel
    Here U Are
    Leo
    Until I meet my husband

    Elio May 19, 2025 5:42 pm
    Never heard of Stranger and Leo. Seems interesting. I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation! Someoneyoudunno

    You are gonna get hooked on both of them . They are best . Stranger recently completed too. You are welcome (▰˘◡˘▰)

    Elio May 19, 2025 5:44 pm
    I was gonna say the sameeee Wanda

    It's a Peak one among BL , especially historical. Always the best

    lebron's #1 pookie bear May 19, 2025 6:37 pm

    Stigmata. Its like if game of thrones was actually good (minus the dragons and incest). I love the intricacies of the plot and all of the characters. I also love the heavy religious symbolism and themes. Its so goated I want to see it animated someday.

    Murderer llewellyn's enchanting dinner invitation. It starts off unique and creepy but it reveals itself to be a very emotional love story. I think the ending and flashbacks are a bit rushed in the manhwa tbh, so I'd recommend reading the novel instead.

    MADK. I don't really consider this a bl tbh because it feels more just like a tale of obsession rather than lust/love. But anyways I love the worldbuilding, I love the demons' character designs, and I love the characters themselves. Its honestly pretty depressing and the middle dragged a bit but wow the ending was so beautiful and tied everything together.

    Aaand my all time favorite, Sangyang the wanderer. its a bit hard to explain the premise because its so intricate, but basically its about these rich clans, in which each clan heir has a guardian to protect them. I love how otherworldly it feels, despite taking place in our time. The characters and worldbuilding are super unique as well. It feels more like a shounen than a bl to me tbh, which is something I love. I don't want to get into spoilers, but all of the hints towards the twists are there from the beginning, so its super fun to reread it and see what the author was hinting at.

    All of these stories do something I love where they show the the past and how that impacts the characters and the trajectory of the story itself. It feels like these characters exist outside of the stories themselves ykwim? Like even after the story ends they'll continue to exist in their own worlds.

    Someoneyoudunno May 19, 2025 6:48 pm
    Stigmata. Its like if game of thrones was actually good (minus the dragons and incest). I love the intricacies of the plot and all of the characters. I also love the heavy religious symbolism and themes. Its so... lebron's #1 pookie bear

    I didn't know about Stigmata and madK. Interesting. The way you describe these stories makes me want to read them. Thanks for your recommendation! Also I agree with your other recommendations as well

Someoneyoudunno March 22, 2025 11:56 pm

Damn, I just counted and I've 230 tabs in my phone, all about mangas/manhwas/novels that I've left after reading them halfway because I was distracted and wanted to read a new manga/manhwa/novel...I wish I could delete these tabs but I'll lose my progress and may forget about these stories

    Doll ^^ March 22, 2025 11:54 pm

    Bookmark em and close the tabs girly!!

    friedwontons March 23, 2025 12:01 am

    not to jinx you or anything but I recently lost all my tabs on my phone without realizing so I couldn't even "open recently closed tabs". I think you should make sure to bookmark or something. I mean if we're being realistic here, bookmarking them would be the same but better than keeping those tabs open, they are both things that you are not likely to revist anytime soon

    Pusheenfox March 23, 2025 12:24 am
    not to jinx you or anything but I recently lost all my tabs on my phone without realizing so I couldn't even "open recently closed tabs". I think you should make sure to bookmark or something. I mean if we're b... friedwontons

    This.
    This is a TRAGEDY.

    Someoneyoudunno March 23, 2025 12:26 am
    not to jinx you or anything but I recently lost all my tabs on my phone without realizing so I couldn't even "open recently closed tabs". I think you should make sure to bookmark or something. I mean if we're b... friedwontons

    Damn that's scary to witness. Sorry that happened to you. Yeah It seems I've to bookmark them as soon as possible. The annoying thing is that some of them aren't even any mangas/manhwas. They're list of mangas/manhwas/novel. Some tabs are about people recommending specific stories to other people (that I want to read but haven't read yet). I reallyyy have to organize them to save my phone *sigh*

    ✨L£vi's dADDęy✨ March 23, 2025 1:30 am

    Girl I recently cleared and deleted all my tabs of the past 2 years.
    Honestly they aren't worth keeping.
    You'll never go back to them and you'll likely stumble upon them again anyway.

    If there's one you rly want to read create a reading list and add it there and just scroll thru it when Ur searching for something new to read.

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