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like legit expected comments here to think Seme is a funny himbo, with over the top tropes but you guys take this shit sooo seriously for a comedy yaoi.. Every chapter had me giggling because they're so silly. I think you are all overthinking this a bit too much, what happened to turning your brain off and enjoying a silly over the top comedy manga once in a while? Hyper analyzing reactions done for the "lol funny" trope for what.. just chill (￣∇￣")

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Agree with everything you say. There's nothing inherently wrong with reading this story and enjoying it in some or other way, as long as we all understand it's fiction and ofc doesn't represent something we would condone irl. Like OFC.

And to add to that, people can discuss and analyze how jk is toxic and all his terrible behaviours (whether it's in the fictional setting or with real life standards), they can say the find the story too triggering for them, they can argue that it's boring or is poorly written. Being negative in these ways is all fine, just don't do it directly to the author unless it's done respectfully, considerately and it's about the canon events and they're not just compiling some all-encompassing problematic traits that the story isn't even about. Idk how some of them forget it but authors are people too, even constructive feedback has rules abt how it should be communicated.

What any of us DON'T get to do is dictate what others can or can't read and how we internally process it, when it's literally not harming anyone!

I understand where the hate is coming from honestly. Like, as someone whose been reading this outta sheer curiosity this goes beyond just toxic. It's just straightup abusive (and possessive). Like instead of responding to hate with backlash just accept that people have a valid reason to hate and move on.

Maybe take your own advice, if you hate reading those type of comments so much don’t read them. No matter how much you don’t want to see those comments they’re going to be there. Each chapter you read there’s ALWAYS going to be someone expressing their dislike of jaekyung, the story, and his actions. Just like you everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If people choose to hate reading shit, that’s their prerogative no matter how much you don’t understand why they would choose to do it.

or stop dickriding rapists in yaoi

No cause literally. Jaekyung was not made to be a likable character, I don’t know why ppl are surprised he’s super hated along with the story…it’s not a mystery. Plus it’s like that phenomenon where people just can’t look away from a train wreck no matter how much they believe it’s disturbing or bad.

You: Literally ridicule the people who enjoy reading the story (just re-read your comments, go on).
Also you: Why are you overreacting, I'm just commenting about how I dislike the story, no offense to anyone.
Being mean to others isn't the same as expressing your dislike. I'm guessing that doesn't really matter to you though, you're overcompensating for some insecurity or unmet need in your life.

HEAVY on this. Genuinely nothing I can say because you encapsulated my thoughts so perfectly.

I fear so many of you lack media literacy.

I am not "dickriding a rapist" or ever even said I like JK ???
Yes he is made to be unlikable, the story is written to be toxic and abusive.

I never said you cant criticize the character but yall post shit like "this story SUCKS!!!" and its just not true, it is well written, you just hate reading stories with evil villains.

"if you hate it dont comment on -" shut up you dont get to turn this shit around when you go around hate and be on a moral high ground for hating the whole story, pretending you're so much better bc you dont like fictional evil characters, you're embarrassing

Critiquing a character whos evil and not condoning his actions =/= shitting on the author and story or the ppl who do enjoy the story lmfao actual braindead.

Surprised surprise the story also sucks!! And I can also say that how much I want. You’re right you’re not dick riding jaekyung you’re dick riding the author! Well written is certainly…a way to describe a story with an overdone concept no originality with character design and remade bj Alex slop. that’s your opinion and I don’t care what you think I care about what I think. And I still think it’s shit what now?

"it is well written" bitch we havent learned anything abt the characters other than kim dan was poor and still is, and jk is an ass. romanticizing abuse and rape doesnt make it well written. ill shit on both the characters and author

Leave if you think its written like shit? Thats my whole ass point omg you're so annoying.

"Im so much better than you all for reading the same story but hating on it instead of just not reading what I hate! You are at fault for enjoying a story with abuse but not me! I am just reading to hate on it because I'm morally so much better than you all ^^ !" thats how you sound like stfu

you prove my point that you lack media literacy if thats all you got from the story so far lmao

again just piss off if you hate it???

You're all free to dislike a story.

You are also free to critique a story.

But if all you guys say "omg this chara whos meant to be an ass is an asshole and i hate him so much and the story is written like SHIT" thats not constructive critique and you're annoying if you constantly say the same shit under each new chapter.

You dont know that opinion=/= critique

Thank you !! You're the only one who gets it man.

I WISH I would see comments of ppl analyzing the characters and their dynamic etc, all I read in the comments every other update is however, how everyone "hates the story, its shit and jk is an asshole" like duh yes he is. But if they dont like the story then why are they still here omg. Dont even say why or where its badly written and dismiss anything like the environmental storytelling that is presented in the chapters, or misinterpret facial expressions, then say the characters are flat or you "didnt learn anything" about the characters like WHAT...

We learned SO MUCH about both of them, why they are the way they are, I could write a whole essay on both behaviours, and the story made me feel all sorts of emotions, which is a GOOD thing even if the emotions are sadness or anguish, because I feel empathy for Dan etc.

Theres so much more but you get the point, thank you again

YOU lack media literacy if you actually think its good writing, trying to guilt trip readers into sympathizing with the ml abuser is pathetic. if we're free to critique the story and dislike it, dont be surprised people leave hate comments about it.

What are you on about? Nobody said you have to sympathize with a character or even LIKE this story. What most of us are saying is: STOP JUST TRASHING THE AUTHOR AND THE READERS WHO ENJOY READING THE STORY. You can express your dislike about the characters or the story by why the hell are you making it personal toward others just because it's something YOU don't like?
Do you really not know how to read?

im not making it personal lmfao. im saying its not good writing like they think it is and the author is guilt triping the readers into sympathizing with the abuser. I will trash on the author because she obviously romanticizes abuse. im not trashing on the people who enjoy READING the story, im trashing on the people who think its good writing and not about rape and abuse. stop watering down abusive relationships in yaoi to toxic yaoi, its fucking annoying and its real shit people go through.

As personally annoying I find to read the same people repeating "I hate jk and this story" comments without any further elaboration to at least make them somewhat interesting, not everyone has to be eloquent about an opinion or expressing their feelings so that's that, none of my business (unless one wants to start an honest convo with them).

What is NOT ok is what alot of these people are doing: being deliberately, extremely rude and offensive towards anyone who likes this story. To them it's "the author sucks, stop writing" and "ppl who have anything positive to say are dickriders, dumb, abusers themselves" etc, especially by the crowd who somehow have been led to believe that fiction=reality. I've even seen an artist (not small one, mind you) trash the author DIRECTLY (not the story, the author personally) because they don't like the way an abusive character is portrayed, on the basis that it's a successful webtoon and so they're deserving of "criticism". As if 1) a successful webtoon author is a millionaire far removed from the grind and not a person anymore 2) insulting someone is the same as criticizing their work.

It's frustrating that while many of us have pointed it out to them, they still seem to refuse to acknowledge that, even when the evidence is in their own writing. "I find the story has gaps and isn't written that well" vs "The author is toxic and the readers are stupid" don't they see a glaring difference between the two? Freedom of speech doesn't mean that we should spew whatever hateful opinion we have or perpetuate false ideas as truth. A simple way to differentiate between sharing opinions and forcing them onto others as gospel is to look for the intention behind it. One side wants to discuss and look for like-minded ppl or different perspectives to expand their views, while respecting everyone involved even if they have different thoughts in the end. The other side constantly tries to provoke and humiliate anyone who doesn't subscribe to their beliefs.

And one last thing I've noticed is that MANY of those in the latter category make extensive use of generative AI in their personal and professional lives, which directly infringes of original creators' rights and instead of being quiet about it, they boast. They can't even create anything through their own hard work but they are loud about trashing others while utilizing technology that was built on stealing from those they insult.

In any case, while it's not personally a favourite story, it has at least given me plenty to consider and dissect and I appreciate it for that. Like you say there are alot of emotions to process, many of them cause me discomfort and it's interesting to analyze why that is. If it was up to me I would give JK a redemption arc that would span like 10 years, but away from Dan. xD But hey, I'll work with what we have here.
And I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts, it is refreshing to read from people who aren't just out for each other's throats and have intriguing things to say.

I suggest you speak to a professional and have these discussions with them, becuase it seems you can't differentiate between what's can affect reality and what cannot. It'd be very helpful to explore why you think this way and if something's worth reconsidering so you can better protect yourself and stop being abusive to others (because that's what you're doing with these remarks).

I swear you people never fail to bring out the “you think you’re better than me” sentence and it’s so ridiculous cause no one said that. Idk if you didn’t fully understand what I said but I’ll say it again for you…slowly. I do not care…if you like…this shit….i care…what I think…and…I’m…going to keep saying it…no matter if you keep…crying…about…it. Keep finding whatever I say annoying cause guess what I don’t care. If you want me to stop, stop me.

Well…your wish is not going to come true I’m deeply sorry.

@Nana the only thing abusive here is this story. yes i know ur fucking weird for romanticizing abuse + rape, even if its fictional, just to water it down to toxic bl. i can differentiate what can affect reality and what cant, doesn't mean ur not weird for being a rape apologist, even if its fictional. okay armchair psychologist

u dumb asf never once did I say anything in defense of JK??? Cant even read my comments properly.

I said if you dont like the story piss off bc yall not give any constructive critique and just hate, once again you prove my point that you cant understand what anyone for that matter writes.

or you're delusional asf and creating scenarios bc where did I defend this dude, I even said he's evil and whatnot in all of my other comments.

if your take-away from the story is "the author wants us to sympathize with the abuser" you are dumber than I thought, cause never once were we lead to sympathize with him just because we see him struggle. You cannot cope with your own feelings of empathy and feel guilty for feeling empathy when that was the emotion the story evoked from you, and it doesnt align with what your brain wants to feel when reading his suffering.
I personally found it enjoyable to see JK suffer and never once was I feeling like this was romantiziced.

You clearly are not mentally equipped enough to read dark stories such as this and Id suggest you either go and find something more suitable for your age range as you seem too young to be on here, or find release through therapy if you cannot differentiate reality from fiction.

Jesus christ

Once again, I agree with you on this so much!
There are so many stories out there I personally started reading, enjoyed at first and later found myself disliking it, disappointed etc.

There are also plenty of story writings I would critique or mentioned that "this doesnt make much sense" etc - only to then later proven wrong because the gaps were filled in other chapters due to suspense, but what I would never do is just say "this fucking sucks" even less so insult others who do like said story I found to dislike as this is always a very subjective matter anyways.

I really also just dislike this puritan aspect of fandoms nowadays where people constantly feel the need to 'defend themselves' by saying stuff such as "oh I dont condone any of the evil characters actions though!" like yeah duh, I sure hope you dont translate that into real life? We are so hell-bent on consuming fiction 'the right way' and its just sooo performative. I can assure you half of the people who hate comment but keep reading deep down actually enjoy the story, and are just too afraid to openly admit to that so they try to take the moral high ground instead to show that they do read the story but of course hate it because they would never ever condone abuse irl!

Like... its so tiring. And of course while I personally love Jinx, I can admit that the writing is not perfect in all aspects? I also read BJ alex, and both Jinx and BJ alex made me feel joy, pain, anguish, frustration and excitement, its therefore to me a good story cause it made me feel emotions I usually dont have when reading 80% of the other yaoi stories out there who truly do lack plot (which ofc is also not necessarily a bad thing as each story out there has a different purpose, and many authors have a different level of writing experience etc)

Someone said the story is "shit because we dont know anything abt the characters other than Dan being poor and JK being an asshole" which??? Damn. Like did we read the same story? There's SO much I could say About Dan, we got his entire backstory, his motivation, we dealt with his pride and humiliation, with his feelings of love and abandonment, with his self destructive behaviour with his shame, there is SO much I could write about Dan and while we did not go AS in-depth with JK yet, there's still also so much to say about him, about his pride and insecurities, how he masks and lashes out because of it, how he puts on a front and has narcissistic tendencies and all that I COULD GO ON but you get the gist, there's so much to say about these characters already more than just "dan is poor and JK is an asshole" - it feels like these ppl read Jinx with their eyes closed or with their hands in their pants lmao


I also noticed the same with people who use AI for everything omg.. Cant think for themselves, have to rely on "tell not show" to get the point of a character, dont want any characters to have flaws because "flaws bad! what if flaws make ppl bad!!!" and quite frankly if you rely on media to tell you whats right and wrong, we're lost as a society cause what do you mean you have to be told explicitly that "this is bad" without being able to contextualize it out of the story, what do you mean you think everyone who likes seeing bad things portrayed in media is evil?!

The ONLY place I think we SHOULD be seeing and confronting dark things as such IS in fictional media because thats the ONLY place where it cannot possibly hurt real people.
Yes fiction can influence people, but if you are influenced by fiction to do bad things such as the bad person in the story, you have already been a bad person beforehand. Quite frankly.


I agree, I want to see JK grovel and suffer, and we're getting there, I love to see the cogs in his brain turn after the last chapter with Dan being so cold to him <3 Cant wait to see where this is going, and since I really enjoyed BJ alex I do trust the author to tell THEIR story, and only time will tell if I'll be satisfied with the ending, but for now I am satisfied with where we are in the journey and cant wait to see more.

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i found it enjoyable too lmfao. i never once said u defended him either. i said ur dickriding a rapist. bc ur expecting ppl not to leave hate comments on a "toxic bl". armchair psychologist ass last paragraph

nah all hope is lost with you lmao bye

Porn addicted bl readers when rage bait bl is successful in rage baiting

It's interesting to see more comments like this! It makes me happy to see more speak out about it.

I also do think some or most readers should be reading this because of their age.

Example A.

Dude there's pages of those comments. It's hard to read them, especially of you're carefully looking for comments you agree with.

The shut up part made me laugh.

Dude for real, I fear most of the ppl commenting this bs are minors who should go back to club penguin or some shit cause its SO frustrating to constantly read the same dumb hate comments that dont add anything to a discussion, just pure blatant hate.
I will never understand how ppl who supposedly hate a story, continue to read it, like do smth else with your time you actually enjoy?

My guess is its ppl who actually enjoy the story as well but have to put on a front for social media, pretending they dont actually like it to be morally correct and "Better than others who consume the same media" bc they "consume it the correct pure way" kinda bs lmao

deadass said "we know nothing abt the characters other than dan being poor" like HELLP? what have you been reading this whole time??? with your eyes closed or with your hands in your pants cause what the fuck kinda take is that?

but yeah got so tired of these dumb comments