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Were apples ever funny?

If you make alcohol with them, I can assure you they can be

Haha, nice conter!

Rotten apples make good apple cider which is good for your health.
So is the progress of the manhua.

You need to use fresh apples for cider... Not rotten ones. It's the juice that's fermenting.
and concerning this manhua, it's a question of tastes but I do think that is rushed with poorly written characters. Like the uke flew off but in two chapters, that's ok ? Where is the evolution of character ?

Did you search. I did thats why i wrote.

... I'm French and more than that, I came from Betrania. Apple cider is kinda an item here and we drink and produce a lot of it. I helped friends and family to do their godamn cider. And not just once. So that's true, I didn't search. Cause I don't need to.

Bruh what are you getting so offended with Chill man i just search and wrote. If its wrong sorry but dont unnecessary write in comment section, just think im stupid. Btw you read bl write keep doing I suggest you to read more of them try viewfinder or sign language. And great making apple cider never tasted it send some me. Have a good day. And if I offended ya sorry bruh. But i like the manhwa dont judge it too hard and dont judge my comment to. Okay? Sorry if i was wrong.

I'm far from offended... If anything, you made me laugh. Just, if you're making cider one day, don't use rotten apples, it would taste bad. (and maybe, be dangerous for your health ahah)
Funny but I already read all of your recommendations. I am just old enough to have a critic mind and just say it if I think it's not well written. And that manhua really disappointed me. It made promesses it didn't keep. Disappointing.

Cool.
I liked it im happy to make you laugh.
In marks voice “Enjoy your flight!”

That counter was funny and unexpectedヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

except he did? jowoon was an abuser, manipulator, had stalker like tendencies, was controlling, sexually assaulted him, etc. jowoon fucking sucked with haesoo.

amen, once again

Well he called him a bastard first... It's obviously a very sensitive matter for him

Yeah but he obviously doesn't know what hurts him... It was almost a way to talk, you know ? When he called him slut, he knew he was being really harsh and would hurt him.

Hes not a bastard though is he... I mean his parents are married

No? He's an illegitimate child.

Bastard is when your parents weren't married

What you are saying is the same as *video games gives killing tendencies*. I mean, maybe theres a little of truth in it, but it’s really not that much. I guess 13 years old girls who reads a lot of yaois and dont get a proper education, maybe they will get they will think its normal. But do you see any comment here saying *its ok rape is normal in a relationship* ? I never saw such thing. Some people think the rapey scenes are exciting, others will think its disgusting and others will just continue and dont give a shit.

Im not saying you are wrong, maybe some people were influenced by yaois but the % is probably extremely low.

And technically, you are probably supposed to be an adult to buy yaois, and an adult most likely already has a way of thinking that wont be changed by reading yaois.

... The same that saying that video games gives killing tendencies ? Seriously? We're talking about representations, here. Not tendencies. Nobody's going to go out one day, after reading that to rape people. That's far more complex than just that.
You want to draw rape? Well, do it but show it's rape and not acceptable. This kind of representations are one of the kind which confuses victims. Cause the main character, even if he calls it rape himself, is not touched by it, it's normal and it's shows like not a big deal.
Well, in real life, that's not it. And when rape is always showed like "not a big deal" and a way to convey the feelings of the rapist, consequences can be sawn in real life. Cause it just penalise victims to recognise a sexual agression or rape as it is. It will lead to a denial and a victim-blaming most of the time. (Which has a big incidence on the psyche of the victim, obviously)

The problem as it is isn't only in Yaois. You have plenty of this kind of glamorization of sexual violence in the mainstream medias. That's the problem. We have a culture where violence is seen as sexy and sexuality as violent. This Yaoi is a perfect representation of it, and it fuckin' tires me out.
I aint gonna give a free class, if you want to educate yourself, I'll leave some links for you to read.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture
https://www.marshall.edu/wcenter/sexual-assault/rape-culture/
https://oxfordre.com/criminology/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190264079.001.0001/acrefore-9780190264079-e-118?print

That s why yaoi is not something you read when you 're in your early 10 ... as an adult I'm able to enjoy the story as only a story... but when you 're like 12 and read such a thing ... girl ofc you 'll start thinking that assault and sexual harassment is normal and means love and romamce ... like your brain is so vergin for everything... this is why it is important to respect age restrictions... there is plently of shounen ai to read out there ....

Then get out from here

I'm 23 but thanks for the paternalism. That's not the point.
I'm just saying : This kind of representation arms people. Real people. Wake up.

Oh, so I can't say if I don't like something now? Enjoy or get the fuck out? Boy, we have a long way before...

This is funny you 're elder than me lol... well there are a lot of sweet shounen ai stories that'll let you enjoy how the romance goes smoothly without forcing any one ..... but i think it s different when it comes to yaoi ..yes , it s kinda disturbing sometimes how the plot
Can be kinda dark but I guess when it is yaoi nobody cares about the fact that the story is bad or about rape .... readers just enjoy the visuals and that s all ╮(￣▽￣)╭ ... personally I see yaoi only as a good visual material...and I enjoy the BL light novels for good story content

Yea...more than normalizing rape i see these yaois as the annoying clichés. Thats why before starting a manga, i often look at comments or just ask if stuff like *is there rape* because these shits are getting boring.

Thing is : That's not supposed to be a dark plot. I read Killing Stalking and as it was depicted, I didn't have any problems with the abuse scenes. Cause they were identified as it was.
I'm. just rephrasing myself here but : This kind of representations hurts real people. Showing the rape as okay and taking it lightly hurts real people. Cause this is the common representation of it.

And as it is, I read a lot of Yaoi where nobody was forced and everybody enjoyed the D. On and off, I have a boyfriend, Bodysuit fetish, Oblivious love factor... I can go on and on. Thing is : You need a rape scene as a pivot of your plot ? You're a lazy ass author.

Just stop supporting mangas where the rape is taken lightly. That's all. Wake up.

I get what your point is .... well it s true that this kind of story line helps in enlarging the rape circle and getting more people to accept this shitty idea as the start of every romance and the worst of all is that the uke gives up and falls in love with his raper lol which is classified as some psychology syndrome or something like that but obviously the authors will prioritize money over a good story line... like if that s what the nation wants give it to them ... everyone's satisfied and case closed... it s kinda sad how we indeed enjoy the " rape " scenes lol and obviously this is what works well these days in the yaoi business so i don't think it s gonna cool down any time soon (〜￣△￣)〜

Now that you say it like that... true. He's not that great.

I think waht you said is quite stupid. You can be in love wirh someone without "looking up to them". I agree that seme isn't perfect but who is? Everything else is just stupid

Hmm, no. If you're not looking up to them, if you don't find anything else than "His face is intense and I can focus on something else than my job" to like about them, if you're always thinking that your lover sucks at his job, if you're always making fun of him and looking down on him (like : "I can't work for somebody who can't have an incapable superior around his finger" bitch, you're fuckin' talking about your lover. And that's not the first time you're fuckin' rude.), sorry but you're not in love.
I never said that the seme needs to be perfect. But that's far from the point. I can let go the rapey trope, as we see it in most of the yaois. But even without it:
We have a seme who would always test his lover to confirm his feelings (and that pretty exhausting), a seme who would find normal to think that his lover is cheating on him at the first occasion, a seme who's using sex as a punishment (at least at first.) and finally a seme who'll have a fuckin' blank expression when his lover ask why he loves him.
Sorry, I'm not in this kind of stories where the uke is dominated. That's rotten. The seme is asking for proofs of love when he doesn't give a shit to do the same. That's not an healthy relationship, at all. M T is completely dominated.

Agreed. I don't the "looking up" either.

I don't get the part either. Ah fuck my spelling （￣へ￣）

Hmm, no. If you're not looking up to them, if you don't find anything else than "His face is intense and I can focus on something else than my job" to like about them, if you're always thinking that your lover sucks at his job, if you're always making fun of him and looking down on him (like : "I can't work for somebody who can't have an incapable superior around his finger" bitch, you're fuckin' talking about your lover. And that's not the first time you're fuckin' rude.), sorry but you're not in love.
I never said that the seme needs to be perfect. But that's far from the point. I can let go the rapey trope, as we see it in most of the yaois. But even without it:
We have a seme who would always test his lover to confirm his feelings (and that pretty exhausting), a seme who would find normal to think that his lover is cheating on him at the first occasion, a seme who's using sex as a punishment (at least at first.) and finally a seme who'll have a fuckin' blank expression when his lover ask why he loves him.
Sorry, I'm not in this kind of stories where the uke is dominated. That's rotten. The seme is asking for proofs of love when he doesn't give a shit to do the same. That's not an healthy relationship, at all. M T is completely dominated.

Oh chill dude.. How can everyone be perfect in the relationship? Anyway, not looking up to someone, but likes them is normal. For me, if I look up to someone, I'd treat them like god (like Beyonce). I wouldnt wanna fuck them..

And considering he's a workaholic. People who LOVE to work. Being able to focus on sth that's not work means that sth is EQUALLY important or lovable. That means he really cares about the boss..

You know, not everyone has to act lovey dovey spilling sweet words. And you're not gonna know how to act properly all the fucking time, so it's fine. They have mutual feelings in the end..

So always trashing your boyfriend cause you don't need to respect them is okay? Wow, that's new.

Did he tho?

Honestly true. I ain’t here to commit to a 5 years relationship of the the same sex every fucking day i like my men like I like my food, diverse and delicious.

Exactly ! I'm in a serious relationship right now and I'm not gonna sleep around. But before that, I had tons of sex-friends and I would not allow anybody to call me a slut just cause I enjoy sex.
All I can say about it is that if you are in a sex-friendship, it means that you are first in a friendship. Wish means that you're not romantically involved with the person you're sleeping with. People really need to make a distinction between sex and love, jeez.

The manga is poorly written, seriously. Why does the uke care about the fact that the seme sleeps around ? I mean, that's just slut-shaming. He doesn't love him or whatever but is mad nonetheless ? Yeah sure.

Bless this comment. It sucks how ppl hate on this manga like it’s the only bl EVER that’s centered more on their intimacy than unnecessary drama...if yall so bothered go read some shounen ai, or at least keep in mind the genres this manga is tagged under

Exactly! It's realistic. I mean, if I had a manga drawing my every-day life with my lover, it would looks exactly the same. This manga is realistic. No need for dramas, this is just intimacy.

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I was literally about to comment and say something similar, someone said they stopped at the "second chapter" talking about there's no story, if they'd continue to read they would see a story smh