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I haven't really read the story so I'm not sure if his grandma is still alive and if she is then I said what I said.

If you haven’t read the story why are you talking about it

Also what’s your opinion???

right cs what..

I don’t think it’s possible to miss that Dan is in debt and needs money so he’s sticking with jaekyung… that’s the plot TT-TT

I read the story but stop till chaps where Jk and Doc Dan have a ring fight practice. So, I'm not sure whether his grandma die knowing her fragile health condition

My opinion is he can't just leave Jk just coz he's being mistreated unless he wants to die as well while risking delaying payment for his grandma's bill. It's weird how lots of people keeps telling to leave or run lmao

And? It doesn't mean that JK isn't an actual dickhead who's horrible to people for shits and giggles

Ur point is? Isn't Doc Dan agreed to all of that knowing Jk's attitude even the first time they meet

You just said that he can't just leave JK bc of money and Doc Dan agreed to everything - you contradicted yourself.

Yes, Dan agreed, but again it isn't really consensual because JK has financial advantage, and therefore Dan doesn't really have any power in the situation. You don't really have a choice when it comes down to: "Work for me, or your grandma dies"

No matter how shitty the person is, if someone who you care about has their life at stake and THEY can help, you're probs gonna stick with it.

You said you read up to the spar arc between Dan and JK so let me update you: People are loosing it because Dan has FALLEN IN LOVE with JK, and he has NOT changed his attitude ONE BIT nor had any form of tragic backstory. So, everyone is like "Dan...what...are you doing??? Why? LIke...what do you see in him? " PLUS a second male lead came into the mix who's just as rich and famous as JK, if not even MOREso, and he was also INTERESTED in Dan, BUT he was actually NICE (for the most part).

Honestly, his attitude towards things isn't too different from JK, he's just less of an asshole about it and treats people like human beings.

So basically...Dan had the option to leave JK at one point. There was another guy interested in him who could afford to pay for his grandma's treatment, and he was NICE. But he chose not to. Then fell in love with a total piece of work. So, readers are basically like "HELLOOOO? Dan are you delulu ? Wtf snap out of it"

Well said *clap clap*

If I’m not mistaken your opinion is that JK’s actions are justified due to the fact that, economically speaking, Dan and JK’s relationship is mutually beneficial (Dan receives money and safety from the debt collectors as well as money to pay for his grandmother’s healthcare and JK receives assistance with his jinx in the form of sexual favors), yeah you’re in the minority here.

What I just described is not a mutually beneficial relationship, it’s financial abuse. Dan has no fallback, no safety net apart from JK’s carrot/stick manipulation tactics. If Dan does not give his body to JK he will lose protection from the debt collectors, he will lose a residence or any place to sleep, and he will lose the money needed to sustain both himself and his grandmother. This is an abusive relationship.

And girl what are you doing saying such controversial bullshit with such an obscene lack of information??

What u mean obscene lack of information. You guys are delusional over the "pitiful" display that author created for Doc Dan. He may lack in financial but you can't just say he was manipulated or trick coz Jk didn't deliberately corner him. Even before he knows Jk he's already chased by those loan sharks and medical pays. It's funny how everyone calls it "financial abuse" when JK already stated he could do anything and Doc Dan have to do whatever he says. There's no financial abuse here if a person allowed it whether out of desperation. To be honest the only thing he gotta do is take it in his ass and do those physical therapy. Those gifts Jk gave to him he could have sold it, which he didn't since the "pitiful" over generous shit display will be gone if Dan did accept all those things and use his brain for once. Lmao

I don't know what u mean by contradicting myself but I don't remember doing that. Dan did have lack of money, he knows Jk is an a-hole yet still accepted the condition to follow what Jk wanted. I also remember there's already another person that told Dan about how Jk treat people yet still didn't leave early on or stop himself from falling for Jk. I did say he can't just leave knowing Jk gives a lot of money compare to what he earn before and knowing how expensive his grandma's meds

It's also quite annoying how people solely blame Jk for rejecting and throwing Dan's gift when Jk already told him to never do useless things other than serve him. Almost everyone are a fool when it comes to "pitiful" display. Truly, talks about "financial imbalance","financial abuse", "manipulation" when Jk didn't manipulate him he just gave him option it's up to him if does it or not coz Jk got lots of side bitches, etc Let's be real here, what happen to your life, no one is obligated to help you. Don't forget that Jk is rich now but one mistake on his career and everything goes down to hell or worst death. Both are struggling on their life. I don't like picking sides. Both are wrong and stupid especially the MC, tbh

Let me point out where you contradicted yourself in your statements, by copy and pasting exactly what you said:

"My opinion is he can't just leave Jk just coz he's being mistreated unless he wants to die as well while risking delaying payment for his grandma's bill." --> You're saying Dan doesn't have a choice.

"Isn't Doc Dan agreed to all of that knowing Jk's attitude even the first time they meet" --> Then you said he made a choice here.

So which one is it? Is it "He has no choice but to stay" or "But he made the choice to stay"?

Yeah, JK's career can go down the drain in one move, but with an athletic career, everything's not gonna go to hell and he's not gonna loose all his riches lol. His career wouldn't even last long to begin with. Boxers usually retire in their late 30s and early 40s according to google, and peak at around 27 - 30 years old. JK is 27, so he's right in the middle of his career, and, as described in the manhwa, at his peak. Sure, it's an honour thing, but saying he's "rich now" insinuates he'll loose it all if he looses his career. He has enough money to keep him going WELL after he retires, even if it's early. Internationally top famous fighters (like JK) get paid MILLIONS for fights. I assure you, JK's gonna be fine even with that injury.

The difference between Dan and JK is Dan has higher stakes to worry about but JK wanna act like he's as or more important 90% of the time, when it's not.

Dan loosing money is: Shit, I'm gonna be homeless and my grandma's gonna die.

JK loosing money is: aw I have to move out of my penthouse and stop buying luxury brands at worst :(

They both have their struggles, but it doesn't take a genius to see that Dan is struggling the most between the two.

Also everyone's not solely blaming JK for throwing the keyring Dan gifted him. Everyone is more so like: "DAN, DO YOU SEE HOW THIS REAFFRIMS THE GUY YOU LIKE IS A DOUCHE??? WHY DO YOU HAVE A CRUSH ON HIM??"

But agreed: JK is wrong and a dickhead, and Dan is stupid for seeing something in such a dickhead. They're both infuriating, don't get me wrong but... JK is WAY more infuriating for one sole reason: Dan's actions are well-intentioned, but JK's actions are ill-intentioned.

People will like a character who gives flowers to someone they like, more than a character who receives flowers from someone who likes them and stomps on them because they didn't want any in the first place.

Nope that didn't contradict anything. He could have not accepted at the start and find something better knowing Jk have a nasty attitude. When I said "he can't just leave" I really mean he can't "just" leave, Dan accepted to put his grandma in a new procedure which costs him more so yeah he really can't just leave now if he wants her to live. If a treatment started,u can't just stop in the middle of it coz that mean more risks.

And it's not like I said Dan isn't allowed to leave he just can't do it out of whim. Which is easy for most to say "just leave him Dan" , "let him chase you" lol quite a delusional, if that happens irl Dan is dead by now if he stop.

"He has no choice but to stay" - coz obviously he have no choice he already started why would he leave now, unless hes much more stupid and let his pride win him
"But he made the choice to stay"? - he did choose to stay at the start way back before things gets serious especially his grandma's treatment and even after he was warned by Jk's prev partner , he still choose to stay.

Everything got consequences either you loss one or everything.


It's funny too how you're only focusing on Jk's money like dude Jk's career isn't easy. You think a simple injury can still make your money stay lmao Have you ever seen a boxer die or was heavily injured that he can't walk and talk properly. If he dies all those wealth is nothing if he did survive but heavily injured all those money will be gone. But, obviously u don't care about those things coz "financial imbalance" is much clearer to criticized.

Like I said Dan would suffer long but Jk still have his own risks.


If u really want Dan to have same status with Jk to have an "equal" status. Dan should start training and join sports like JK. You know to also remove "financial abuse" shit things lmao

Intention are intention. The day u accepted it, face it. Same with Jk tbh he accepted his fate well that's why he's desperate to keep doing those Jinx thing. Dan too, although he got delusional at some point and too stupid to not cross the line.

The victim blaming and cognitive dissonance here is wild

Victim blame on what really? He accepted the job, he got the money he needed. U saying?

That's EXACTLY why it's victim blaming. You can't say "what vicitim blaming" then victim blame in the next sentence. Victim blaming is when you put fault on the VICTIM for the situation they are in, saying things like, (keywords), they CHOSE it and they ACCEPTED IT. Like "oh, well he put himself in that situation, so it's his fault and he got what he wanted in the end??" but the situation itself is BAD and HORRIBLE; that's why they're a victim. And why what you're saying classifies as victim blaming. You are telling the victim that they chose the situation.

And yes, a simple injury isn't gonna strip JK of his money, no matter how you say it so. It's not going anywhere and he's not gonna lose it. I'm not saying the injury can still make his money, yeah, his stream of income from BOXING is gone but, the previous money he made (which is probably in the millions)...stays in his bank account, they don't seize it. Rich people have assets yk lol, he probably does as well. Just because JK can't box anymore doesn't mean anything in his bank account is leaving lmao, nor does it mean he doesn't have other investments that make him even MORE money. That is what a normal rich person, billionaires and many famous athletes do. Wealthy people don't SOLELY make their income on their jobs, they invest in stocks and properties on the side etc. So if JK injures himself and is forced to retire from boxing, he will still have money AND income from other sources.

I'm not saying it's an easy job, I'm saying that his job has made him enough money that if he retired as is....he could live off that money for the rest of the life without getting another job.

Yes, JK has his own risks and struggles, I'm not denying that, BUT his struggles PALE in comparison to Dan's. Kinda like a kid whining about not getting a 90% on a test and only getting 83% when the kid next to them got a 30% and risks not being able to graduate. They're both real struggles but one of them has a more prominent consequence. Dan's struggles are just gonna have bigger consequences than JK's, that's a fact.

That's why people feel worse for Dan. Bc JK sounds like the kid who's bitching about not getting 90% next to someone who got 30%. JK is bitching about not being able to continue his winning streak when Dan is at the mercy of getting kicked out and becoming homeless if he pisses him off too much. One consequence is just OBJECTIVELY worse.

And no, Dan training to be a boxer or athlete like JK would NOT remove any financial imbalance at ALL. As I said, top internationally famous boxers, like JK, get paid millions for their matches, NOT regular boxers. Regular boxes make around 50k per year and barely scrape by. Plus, as I said before, boxers peak around 27 - 30 years of age and Dan is 29, so if he were to start, he would've passed his peak by the time his training is finished. It would be a short career seeing as he'd probably have to retire in 6 - 9 years at the earliest. He has no prior physical training to go back on as we've seen either, so it would just be a career of mediocrity in comparison to JK's success.

Even if Dan went into a different sport, boxing itself is actually very LATE in retirement age in comparison to the other sports out there. Most athletes in most sports retire by around 30 and...Dan is 29 + would just be starting out so there wouldn't be a regular team who would accept him. If we really wanna put him in a sport, golfing would be his best bet but PGA golfers make 32k a year on average, unless again, he becomes REALLY good and FAMOUS.

JK's talented in the aspect of boxing and sports, yes, and he does work for his money, but it doesn't change the fact that he's an asshole.

Babes, transactional relationships do not warrant physical abuse (as shown in the most recent chapters) nor do they warrant financial abuse. And before you claim their relationship isn’t an example of economical or financial abuse I implore you to first search up the definitions of financial and economical abuse. Dan not having a choice but to accept JK’s offer and then putting him into a situation where he’s dependent on him for safety, financial resources, and a home is abuse and is not justified because of the context as well as the circumstances of the situation at hand. Your contrarian sympathizer ideologies do not change that.

Funny how you misused those words. Search it up yourself u might shock urself. The only time it will be an abused is if the perpetrator did do something to manipulate or pull a trick to limit a victim from resources or financial needs. Which Jk didn't do coz Dan's already in that situation, he was only given an option. The only time u could say it's a financial abuse is if Jk use a bit of forced for Dan to accept it, he didn't though Dan was the one who look for him in the end to accept Jk's condition. You can't say not having a choice, ha have that at first he was given a time to think if he wanted. It's his situation that pushed him but not JK. It's like joining to sell druggie not everyone was forced, they just choose to do it. So who are u gonna blame if they were caught. If u still think that's victim blaming, u guys are very stupid at this point. Victim blaming happens if the victim who are solely innocent were accused of a crime he didn't want nor know that it's gonna happen. Same with druggie example, it will be a victim blaming if he was drugged before hand and was used multiple times without him knowing that by drinking or interacting with friends things will escalate. That's how victim blaming works. U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming knowing what's the consequences of his action. I hope ur not stupid enough to not know everything got consequences. It's not rocket science that what Dan experienced is bound to happen. Also he isn't really gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh. He knows he gonna be having sex with him then he should always prepare himself. I'm a prosti bitch I know how abused happen more than u think, I know that there are guys that are straight up abuser and there are guys that wants things to be done smoothly. Dan is too shy and isn't allowing his pride to prepare himself for that kind of things ,so obviously he's gonna be rough handed. This is why cuddled up bitches like u don't know things about this kind thing. U only think being pitiful is enough or to pitty someone is good. Like heck I'm sure you're one of those guys that are judgemental than me lol stop with ur misused words kinda stupid. U acting like ur a hero for saving thru words "it's abuse" lol to a person who's actually lucky enough if he just did his job

Bitch me victim blaming coz I said Dan accepted lolol u are as stupid as you sound. Now wonder you sound like the others here who are cuddled up by their parents. Lmao

Bfr lolol if I'm being honest to u I'm a prosti myself so I know how most people in this kind of industry works. Jk isn't as horrible as the others. I never said he isn't an asshole nor a person who got anger issues or low EQ. Considering how he interact to everyone and the difference when he talk with Dan's grandma.

Again it wasn't victim blaming. What I said is true, that's the consequences of his action. When Dan accepted those things while warned by others, it's not rocket science that those things is bound to happen. I, myself know that being in this job mistreatment is bound to happen, guys who's gonna do it with u then run away with ur money. Heck, I even make them pay sooner before we start the deed. Coz those things are the consequences of my decision. It's not victim blaming. The only time it'll be victim blaming is if Jk deliberately manipulate Dan's resources or try to cut him off from by blocking his way to be employed just so Dan could accept his condition. That's where victim blaming occur. Although that didn't happen since he was given time and it was Dan he look for him in the end without Jk doing anything to ensure he'll come back to him.


It's also funny how u easily talk about money. Let's just accept all those things u said, but what will happen if the result of Jk's fight is his death. Lolol

Late just leave those thought about being late, maybe if Dan thought about that way back he's younger then wouldn't he be a big shot by now if luck comes his way. Lol

Anyway things are getting long now, cuddled up bitches like u don't really know how world works. It's even east for u to say that being hurt by doing his career is ok because he got lots of money lmao do u have anything against with rich people. Getting millions of money isn't something to be proud of, investment? stocks? One wrong move and all those money will be gone. Real estate isn't gonna ensure money stability, only risk taker do that. There's a lot of things to pay when owning real estate who knows the person who's staying in ur place isn't actually a good payer or would wreck the place. The only time that there are lots of rich people who stay on top are either manipulating their taxes or doing some illegal stuff behind. Genuine rich people gonna have to work more, if ur disable ur money will be gone as same with people that works with you if you have nothing left.

fuck this reply is vile

“Also he isn’t gonna be abused if Dan just did his job tbh” “ U can't say I was victim blaming just coz I said he deserved it coming”

Hon, JK was aware of Dan’s situation and he took advantage of that to fulfill his desires. The fact that Dan did not have a reasonable choice but to accept JK’s offer then, and has no choice but to continue as JK’s sex partner now in order to maintain safety for both him and his grandmother makes their relationship an abusive one. It is Dan’s lack of power, of a choice other than to continue has JK’s partner in order to stay safe because of his lack of economic stability apart from JK that makes their relationship an abusive one. Your anecdotes as a sex partner do not change the fact that their relationship is an abusive one, and that is not on Dan.

A sex worker* mb

Dude at this point your literally spouting misinformation. Anyway, I re-read the first 6 chaps. So, based on the story Dan was hired for physical therapy. Jk likes his massage so he have his coach call and asked for Dan's service. Note he never knew anything about Dan's situation other than he's in need of money. Long story short it was actually Dan who demanded for big amount of money, well he demanded right after Jk told him about his jinx and condition why he hired him to be his PT.

Also, on the first time Dan entered Jk's penthouse he saw how violent Jk to others when get irritated. I'm not sure how you got to the point of "lack of power to choose" when he's is one who accepted, consent and gave mutual demand on their relationship such as a big amount of money.

The first time they did it too, Jk told him if he don't want to do it he can just get the fuck out. That's another choice that was given to him.

If my reply is vile, ur reply is full of bullshit lmao. I advice re-read the story, coz your delusional mind is making up shit now.

But hey, u have one thing correct Jk is an asshole and violent, obviously, even on the training he's showing his way of fighting with lots of force.

Jk told him if he don't want to do it he can just get the fuck out.

This statement on its own represents how JK uses his assets, his wealth, and his overall economical control over Dan to gain control over him. This statement is not a choice given to Dan, it is a threat. If Dan doesn’t do as JK pleases the ver necessities he’s grown to require in order to ensure the wellbeing of himself and his grandmother will be stripped from him. What about that do you not understand?

Yeah like I said you're delusional. Giving too much meaning on a simple context.

If someone tells you to get the fuck out or not waste their time. It only means get the fuck out. Dan isn't a god or a special being that Jk will beg him to stay so he don't care much if he go.

Your way of thinking reminds me of people that even though you told them "no" they will keep harassing or talking with you just coz they put too much meaning. Lolol You're too stupid if u think like that

But that isn’t all it means. In order to come to the conclusion that you came to you’d need to disregard the extenuating circumstances behind Dan’s decision to ultimately agree and JK’s reasoning behind making that offer.

To clear things up first and foremost we have to disillusion you to the belief that Dan wanted to be JK’s sex partner. Dan hooked up with JK because he had no other source of income that could adequately fund both the expenses of living as well as his grandmother’s treatment, and even after they hooked up Dan’s disinterest with anything further was represented by him actively avoiding any confrontation with JK. Though Dan did end up returning to JK and taking him up on his offer, he only did so because he lacked a choice in the matter. Dan was already living in poverty and barely capable of supporting his grandmother and himself despite working multiple jobs, learning the cost for his grandmother’s treatments would only increase (despite the sum of money he received from hooking up with JK) put him in a position where his only opportunity to stay afloat would be to take JK up on his offer.

This situation on its own is not abusive. JK was admittedly unaware of Dan’s situation and thought he was just giving Dan (who he believed was already someone who slept around) a great offer. His objectification of Dan, however, is problematic and dehumanizing. He acknowledges Dan as nothing but a sex toy in later chapters which is a completely separate form of abuse, but that’s mostly irrelevant to the point I’m trying to make now.

The events that unfolded post the signing of the agreement made it clear to JK just how dire Dan’s situation was, with three key events coming to mind:

A) JK met Dan’s grandmother and realized why Dan might need money in the first place, with Dan being her sole provider all of the financial burdens of taking care of her would be on him
B) JK witnessed Dan’s loansharks beating and nearly raping Dan firsthand. He recognized Dan lacked safety and protection due to the financial decisions he was forced to make prior to meeting JK, as well as the fact that Dan could not defend himself physically to
C) Dan was homeless. Because of neighborhood renovations Dan’s home was temporarily seized. Dan did not have a place to stay where he could bring his family heirloom (the cabinet) nor the heart to give it up due to its cultural and personal significance as the one thing his grandmother did not give up in order to raise Dan.

These three factors led to JK being Dan’s sole beneficiary, his sole source of income, living arrangements, and protection from the multitude of trials actively holding him down. JK’s response to all of this? Objectification, abuse, rules that stripped Dan of any semblance of self respect or integrity. Rules that made Dan nothing more than something to be used, something Dan even up till these last chapters did not want to be. Dan did not want to be some toy to fulfill JK’s jinx, but his economical instability and codependency on JK forced him to remain as such. Dan has no power in this situation, and JK is aware of it, despite this he uses and abuses Dan often without any regard for how it might affect him. That. Is. Abuse.

PuhLEASE just read the story, I’m sorry but telling me you “reread to chap6” and, as you initially stated, hadn’t actually read most of Jinx, just completely discredits anything you say and it shows in your opinions.

PuhLEASE whether I don't read the entire story what happen to Dan is still the result of his action. And...

You just like to make things worst coz newsflash to u. You have this weird obsession anger towards rich people. Even if Jk was aware of it, u got angry coz he didn't give Dan a money without fulfilling his job. U know like "donating". Based on the story itself there wasn't anything that changes on Jk. You just expect him to be kind and give lots of money to Dan to pay his debt, medical fees and to get a new house. That's why you're interpreting it too much. What do you think a sex work should be, aren't they a sex toy for people that wants to let out some steam. Lmao

Don't try to justify "sex worker should not be used as sex toy or objectify as sex toy" coz that's their job. I can guarantee you as a prosti your job is to be a sex toy and fulfill sexual needs of your customer.
Anyway, I already said what I said, your still the cuddled up bitch that I know so you expect that if you're in pitiful situation. People should be obligated to help you lmao Yet you're not helping anyone yourself, you just pity them and throw some stupid shit word to be "heroic"

I stand to what I say what happen to Dan is part of his decision, he was pushed by his situation not JK. Jk didn't care about anyone including Dan so your argument that he's manipulating or doing some shit to make Dan's life hard isn't even true. He never did physically hurt him unless it was when Dan CHOOSE not to prepare himself before having sex or he was angered. Jk is a violent asshole but he's not at fault why Dan choose to stay with him. AND again it's not Jk's fault that Dan is suffering due to poverty.

You are also a delusional stuck up cuddled up bitch that never think about the bigger side and always pick poor=victim lmao stupid bitches
I ain't gonna reply to u anymore knowing how delusional, like to misinformed and obsessed over rich people. You are a walking stupid weird bitch that likes to spout unrealistic things. If you want justice make sure you know how to spot who are wrong here. Don't side on "he's much more pitiful", that's not how justice works. Only stupid people think like you do. Lolol

But this is what I mean. You have no idea what’s been happening so far so you’re basically spouting misinformation. JK has grown physically violent towards Dan and he has been taking advantage of Dan in a multitude of ways ranging from having sex with Dan in front of Dan’s friends to literally forcing Dan at his place of work. You know so little about this story, yet you claim because Dan was in no position to refuse all that happens to him is consensual and morally right. That is victim blaming. This is abuse. You are beyond fucked up.

Dan had a whole cliche crying in the shower scene and everything. Wanting to have sex and having to have sex are two different things, and Dan lies on the latter end of the consent spectrum.

omg yall need to stfu yall been going at it for two damn days and I been getting notifs I should've never commented . got me thinking sum updated

Ff

I'm not sure but I think its "Cultivator x Contract Spirit"

It is, thank u

It's called "Little Mushroom"

Ironic how I didn't think about that title despite mc being one lmao, thanks

The thing is whenever people search up any manhwas especially yaois name google searh engine shows mangago on top rather than legal sites . Thts shzg stressin Authors the most .

I know that I'm what I'm trying to say I hope there's a way that this site could be private and unsearchable where only people with links or approved by admin will be able to access it.

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Gah, why is my computer browser suddenly acting weird, randomly deleting what I typed... but anyways, there are ways to make the site unsearchable I'm sure. But I wonder if mangago would want to go that route, since less visitors means less revenue, and they keep running the site to generate revenue so... by that logic they may have quite a bit of conundrum...

Is there a way to contact the administrator or creator of this site?

I'm not sure, they used to have the report option on the flag button by the side of the page, but ever since they revamped the site, I don't know where things are anymore. This site has gotten to be too large for its own good honestly. If they want to think about long term survival, they need to start rethinking about access & searchability. I get that they may feel they are untouchable since they operate in some place out of reach of legal consequences, but how long do they think they can remain safe?

True , maybe soon even mangas will be forced to be deleted be the authors if it reached them. Twitter is one of the most used social media around the world ,that means sooner or later other authors will start complaining soon.

https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangalist/610679/

dear benjamin

I have that on my list