I heard that the Wano arc is worse then the impel down's arc my heart it not ready!!!!! ╥﹏╥ I'm already crying!!!
Yes me too.
I feel he's doing this out of habit? He's had one sided love for so long that now that they're dating he doesn't feel jealousy and is forgetting he has the right to stop ppl from asking bf away.
same. it's frustrating but i still really like and enjoying the frustration?? hehe
i'm with kouta.
Wait, is Yuuki a virgin? I thought he and Jill use to got out? http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/devils_line/nbt/3b750ae04ce8e55d/Vol1_Ch3/8/
So what does the mom mean that Yuuki hasn't done it? Does she mean sex or with done it with a human or done it with tsukasa?
and Jill clearly said that she and yuuki had sex
And he said "Dont lie around here" so I think they were about but, they didn't
I thought that was to answer the question, "Wait, are you guys still dating?"
No....?
Well they are both vampires so its different. He didnt have sex with his current HUMAN girlfriend. I think thats what its about.
iN THE FIRST CHAPTER?? WHAT THE HELL?????????? DUDE!!! SO MANY FEELINGS OF OF!!!!!!! I DON'T EVEN KNOW!!! THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE
how much longer till they clear this misunderstanding? (￣∇￣")
Chapter 44-45.
kill me T_T
Thanks I'll come back after they clear this up I'm getting bored hahaha
thnks lol, gonna stop till cp 45 hahaha cuz i lov this story too much
damn ... that's ridiculous
After that, they kind of break up. Than 3 or 4 chapters of make up sex :D
wot 3-4 cp of sex ?
that the longest chapter of sex then ╮(￣▽￣)╭
They start at chapter 47 and finish at the beginning of chapter 50.
JUST TALK DAMN IT! just ask him about his wife and your best friend! GOD stop being so vague! and You Seme! tell him everything you just said in his face OMG! i like this manhwa but come on I was hoping this was the big TALK! agggghhh!
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Logan:"He has sex in weird places you know?!?!"
Hyung:"Hmm, yeah, I know"
Kyon: "He knows?!?!"
Logan: he took my alchol??"
(≧∀≦) I find this trio so funny!!
Somebody probably saw them on that balcony. .. God damn that scene was Hella hot.
I see your point of view. BUT hear me out. As someone who comes from a similar background as Ayu I want to point to a couple things.
ONE! Tomoe herself admits she's not mom material. She lacks the mindset to raise Ayu in an environment that could give Ayu the best.
TWO! could anyone tell me that Tomoe should have taken Ayu on any country she's in and the guys not demand for Ayu back? Even as a baby? Tomoe checks in and makes sure she's aware of what's going on with her kid. She calls and send pictures. Yes, she could be there for her kid and work a nine to five job but can we see her happy with this life? Can we see Ayu not blaming herself for taking her mom's dreams and opportunity? Which is more damaging growing up see all your mom achievements only to be gone when your born, or be raised by two loving individuals that teach you what good parents/ positive male role models should look like and have a strong female role model to look up to and know you'll be loved no matter what you chose to do?
THREE! what makes you people think that Tomoe isn't providing for her daughter? Is there anywhere in the manga that said Tomoe hasn't given anything to the couple? Aside from Ayu? Tomoe is clearly working with photography, so yes, you may have a point that she's not the most stable income. But I believe is more financial stable then most kids. She has THREE working parents. Yes, Kazuma has denied job offers for big projects but he has never been hinted to have financial problems. Being in a three income household means they can pick each other's slack and provide for whatever Ayu needs when Ayu needs in.
I have more points but this is getting long.
Yes!! And freelancer made a lot more than you'd expect!!
So I looked up what freelancers make and I'm sorry your probably right she's making a lot more than I give her credit for. But isn't she staying at her house that her parents brought? not at an apartment? That's why there's a landline that doesn't connect to a landline.
I think so too.. But I think she covers the expense regarding Ayu as well
No, yeah I'm agreeing with you she pays for Ayu. But I'm saying she's not in an apartment she at her house and since her house is old she doesn't connect to the landline.
Oh yeah.. I was meant to add that, not really disagreeing or anything.. Ah dang I shouldn't have used but..
1. Not being mom material does not give you the freedom or excuse to abandon your child. This is exactly what she did. Dumped a child on unsuspecting hands without even discussing it beforehand. She did so because she knew they weren't just going to throw out an innocent baby. Talk about dirty.
2. Why would the guys demand a baby that is not theirs? If she had taken Ayu in the first place, they would advise her to settle down in one place, not to take her baby. What kind of person exchanges kids back and forth like they're objects? If Tomoe settled down and stopped traveling, she would probably be unhappy, but see as it is now Shes happy at the expense of her friends! She's taking advantage of their kindness. It wouldn't be damaging to Any in any way seeing her mother in a regular job. Why would it? Unless the mother was constantly blaming her for her failures, which is highly immature. If you're not ready to have a child, don't fucking have one. That's what it really comes down to. Ayu is Tomoes responsibility. She has no right to impose her on anyone else for her own happiness.
3. I admit I didn't even consider Tomoe sending them money. She could very well be. Good for her if she is, bit I doubt they have an arrangement made. She needs to provide not only for Ayus direct costs, but also compensation for the guys who are taking care of her child 24/7. Can she afford all they do for her? Highly doubt it. Kazuma didn't have financial troubles perhaps, but did you see the state he was in? Bags under eyes every day. No time to self ever. Sacrificing career growth while the mom travels the world. This isn't a three income household. Tomoe isn't part of the household. Is she married to them? No. If she depends on them financially then she's just an irresponsible leecher.
I could also go on but this subject has tired me out. Time to go buy my seven cats food and clean the pounds of shit they shed every day and give them all the love and care even a teenager can provide.
Yes, Not being ready to be a mom is no excuse to leave your child I admit. But have you ever held a child and been scary to drop them at any moment? Imagine feeling that way everyday since their birth, and fucking them up in someway. Imagine shaping another human being to be their model for the rest of they're life. It's fucking terrifying. Also if you can't be the best version of yourself be the best person you can be how can you be the best mom. Can you really say that an unhappy mom can take care of a child?
Maybe the guys wouldn't have demanded for Ayu, okay, but can you really imagine them telling Tomoe who is scared shitless already to settle down? She did for a whole year they must have seen how she was. Yes, Tomoe might have emotionally blackmailed them into keeping Ayu and that isn't right. No arguement there. She should have told them and made arrangement.
Okay so are you telling Tomoe to abort the child for the dead man you love? Can you do that? Just give up the legacy of a dead man you loved and be like that's that cause your not ready? I can't I would kill me and don't think Tomoe isn't aware of her selfishness she very aware never once has she said she didn't.
Another thing I'm not saying Tomoe would blame Ayu about giving up her career. I'm saying when Ayu sees those photos, achievements and meet people that talk to Tomoe before Ayu don't you think she'll know. Just the inkling, that my mom could have been someone great but because I was born she didn't. Tomoe would feel this and comfort Ayu I believe. But Ayu would know, my mom couldn't do what she loves because she loves me too and had to choose.
I don't think an arrangement had to be made and fine she's not part of there household.
but if the guys need something for Ayu and needed help they would just tell Tomoe and don't think Tomoe didn't send it. What I was trying to point out is that just cause Tomoe is not a present mother doesn't mean she's not a mother. Tomoe loves and Cares for Ayu is what I'm trying to say in my post. But Tomoe should be allowed be the best version of herself to be the mother Ayu looks up too. Tomoe is Ayu's female role model yes, she not always present but Ayu knows that when her mom is around she's the happiest she could be. Don't get me wrong maybe in the future Ayu might feel the way most people do bitter that their mom and dad aren't there. Maybe she'll see flaws in her being raised. But as she said, "I have a dad, dad, and a mom."
People are saying that Tomoe is a bad mother she isn't if she was she would have left Ayu alone or in a facility she didn't. People are saying that her leaving Ayu is selfish I don't think so. Not showing Ayu the best she could is like telling your child that I wanted to be a photographer but because the world said you had to be raised in a certain way we have to live this way I'm going to show you that their right and you shouldn't be the best for someone else.
Yes, raising a child is fucking scary. And yet everyone does it. Do you think good mothers are born knowing how to be good mothers? They learn. Tomoe is neither willing nor is she prepared for motherhood. I'm not saying she should have aborted Ayu. She could have, but there's always adoption. The correct way to go about it then would be to give up the custody of the child to Chiaki or/and Kazume via adoption. She could still be in the picture as the biological mother, but would have no legal rights or financial burdens over her. Problem solved. It is extremely selfish and unfair to expect anyone to take care of her kid for several years, then come back and take her. Not only would it be emotionally harmful for the guys, but Ayu would suffer as well. She would be hateful of her mother for taking her away from her home. So, better to keep her with Chiaki/Kazume legally and come by every once in a while.
Also, Tomoe took the easiest, most convenient route for her. She could have compromised to being a freelance photographer in Japan, or just take an office job for the first few years of Ayus childhood, then set off to travel again, child and all. Giving up your dreams for your children is honestly an excuse to stop chasing them. It gets harder, but it isn't impossible.
Tomoe is indeed not a bad mother, she's not a mother at all.
exactly
"Yes, raising a child is fucking scary. And yet everyone does it."
No offense, but are you retarded?