
its so funny seeing the ppl already selling ihara off to the younger brother when all we've seen of him so far is a shady ass panel. Like what he do, maybe the next arc is abt how creepy the brother is, why r we wishing harm on Ihara like this

I had the same feeling too but it’s similar to what happened with Ihara, most people assumed he was bad then he ended up good but I also agree that Shirayukis younger brother might be weird or smth (esp cs he will know Shirayukis tendency and that would be the best way to get between their relationship) I think everyone just wants Ihara to be happy

catching up w this and feeling absolute intense soul searching anger for the fact this author dared make me have to sludge thru several chapters of the most genuinely unimpressing backstory of the least likeable character i have ever had the misfortune of encountering in fiction and i fucking watched redo of healer in this same life.
Actually cant believe like 100 chapters in and i had to experience ben even fucking more thanbi already had. I should receive compensation for this.
Lord have mercy on my soul and the sad fact that Argio's amazing storyline has to coexist with whatever sorry attempt at fiction Ben's whole existence is

novel reader here, hi, lets get some things straight
Anderheim (or andrim, whatever) IS evil. He's always been evil. If yall forgot, Anderheim didn't transmigrate INTO the villain he WAS ALWAYS THE VILLAIN. Anderheim IS the one that did all the horrible dirty back handed things before the events of the story, hes the same person. Hes alsp the one that cursed and subsequently had Maria drugged in the church, which ultimately led to her being executed. He's never limited himself to Nasha, hes already had history of being evil and vile to anyone related to Nasha. He will be evil to his family. He was never a good person, do not expect him to have morals with all the golf he hid in his house??
NOW I will say you should all actually be mad ad Jorga??? everyone is yelling about Anderheim but in my opinion Jorga is positively worse because he was MEANT to have morals?? And clearly he was complacent with beastiality just because the person causing this was hopping on his dick. Be forreal.
Ill tell you ahead, Jorga isnt a victim of Anderheim. Anderheim always knew Jorga would follow his twisted ways if he let him hit. Jorga will do similar if not worse things just for the sake of playing into Anderheim's cruelty (at least Anderheim has a reason for revenge)
If you want to be angry at anyone, be angry and Jorga. Be absolutely disgusted by Jorga, because he's fake, pretends to be righteous, and will stop at nothing just to get his dick a bit wet

i need to remind you the only reason Anderheim even tries to use sex on Jorga was because in the original game there was a route where Jorga did something similar with someone else.
The only reason Jorga hated Anderheim was because he took his girlfriend, he forgave him the second that got cleared
AND even then it doesnt excuse what Jorga goes on to do to Nasha considering he has no grudge of his own against her

uh, basically what happened to the sisters will happen to Nasha, as a result of Jorga purposely tipping her off on some stuff (which directly leads to the prince marrying his COUSIN also?)
And youre somewhat right? He's the leader of the knights, he's the one that hates anderheim the most to start off, he's part of the prince's entourage and the most adult one at that. Unlike Anderheim hes *supposed* to have a moral code.
But then he just doesnt. And its not even like hes just allowing it bc its Anderheim, he has the potential to do the same for some woman. He's not even just ignoring it or allowing it, hes an active participant.
He doesnt have to be a perfect victim, but he just doesnt feel like one at all, he's openly cruel for no purpose other than to get brownie points witb the person he just happens to have a relationship with in this timeline.
Fake bitchass

oh yes finally someone who understands and appreciate the evilness of our male lead. thank YOU
but also.... I think Jorga is supposed to be flawed and awful fromt he start, is he not. If he was as righteous and he claims to be, he would never alow andie to get away w it after he shows him his truye colours - and andie knew that, and counted on it to succeed
in the end, jorga is as flawed as andie, and andie USES that to achieve his goals (and gains a very resourceful attack in the process lol)
i dont hate jorga at all lol, i like how he falls and just... goes with it, why the fuck not (like father like son btw lmao)

i mean when i say "jorga was supposed to have morals" im talking about his presentation up until the diary reveal.
Sure, Anderheim knew already he's not moral because he was aware of the different story routes, but the reader wasn't. He's not flawed in the way Anderheim is, being avaricious and vengeful, even, his flaw is that his loyalty is shaky and can be practically bought with sex, his set of morals is nonexistent deapite putting on that facade early on in the series by being righteously hateful towards Anderheim. Plus like i said, he doesn't even just entertain Anderheim's plans, he does cruel things on his own without being instructed too, just to be a good dog. I just find him a bit pathetic and off putting

plus i wouldnt even say his son that's fucking the priest is even as bad as him
Malaki is a lot easier to empathise with than Anderheim to begin with, given everything that's happened to him
plus bro like tries to understand Malaki's reasons for what he does and pass them thru his own moral filter, unlike Jorga who will just do whatever. I don't find him as off putting bc I can rationalise his actions and understand that he's going to empathise with Malaki despite the conflicting morals.
Not that this book is particularly good, but I just dont think most characters are written as bad as Jorga

overall if anyone rlly gaf abt my opinion, I think it wouldve been more interesting if Jorga has a set of morals that would conflict with his actions. That he would feel regret at betraying the prince he swore his loyalty to ultimately in the name of love.
I dont need him to have a hero complex like Lytro (i remembered his name, r u proud of me), but i wish he'd at least be haunted by his choices as a character that was introduced to the story as a righteous moral knight. It wouldve made his fall more like juicy ok

Oh yes i totally get you, Jorga *is* despicable by having that moral exterior and being easily influenced by sex and his blind obsession to andie, i do get you i do trust me, im able to see all of that, but after the reveal i just thought jorga hated andrim not bc he was a nefariosu person but bc he stole the chick. Personally, i think Jorga was *taught*to act a certain way and it got way over his head, and by building that reputation he kinda.... got away with a lot of shit (that we dont know of lol)
But idk about you but (and MAJOR SPOILERS FOR PPL WHO HAVENT READ THE WHOLE THING) him being the other side of the coin - the real descendant of the """hero"""" who founded their country kinda.... it gives "this whole place is soiled from the start and i was openly evil but this family is as rotten as mine is"
and i dig that
but i agree w you 100% per cent, i just really like an evil bastard and his attack dog type of couple - just as much as i like traumatised bastard and his hero boyfriend (thats malaki and lytro. i think theyre a better couple too but i REALLY dig andrim and jorga)

omg yall, cakeverse is a spin on homoerotic cannibalism plotlines
the cakeverse dynamic is a stand in for homosexual attraction, the guilt and the yearning are staples of handling gay thoughts under internalised homophobia.
everyone is so stuck in comparing this to omegaverse bc of the "cakeverse" term that no one im seeing in these comments can read past the very obvious metaphor being constructed. Can all of you for once move past the fanfiction terms and really look at what youre reading for what it is? Can any of you care about the story the author is writing???
fuck your placeholders girl i thought i still had chapters to go thu n its js yo placeholders goddamn
Man I stg (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE ヽ(`Д´)ノ
shut the fuck up be glad ur even getting chapters,this is an illegal website a ph won't kill you
Yeah I wonder when illegal readers became this spoiled to have so many likes agreeing with them, we used to just be thankful for anything that could be translated on someone's day off.
Wow, aren't you an entitled cunt?!
Yo calm down. It ain’t that serious.
Yeah one won't but don't act all high and mighty like 6 placeholders don't annoy you either. I'm not entitled lol, just venting, it's not that deep bruv
It's ok for the uploads not to occur, but putting nothing but placeholders is just a pisstake
Then vent in your personal space not on an open forum where the person uploading can see (and it's fucking entitled to act like that condering you pay nothing while the uploader is taking the time out of their day to do this). If you are so impatient and want shitty translation, take your ass to Zin manga, they are up to date to ch82
Lol tf?? I can no longer concur with others when placeholders get frustrating? Aight
They’re scared the uploader will stop uploading the pirated official chapters and we’ll have to read fan translations like usual. So they bully others to defend their precious pirater lol. Not sure why they’re so scared of fan translation chapters when we’ve always had them? I get it’s a website for unofficial scanlations but not sure why they’re blocking fan translations for those of us who want to avoid the paid official ones? Absurd.
Yeah... Kinda agree there. Fan translations have always been a thing but back then placeholders were so rare, we would just wait. Which IS FINE. Like, fr. Tell me a good reason for posting 6 placeholders in a row??? Like might as well post one hiatus notice, or NOTHING AT ALL, and then upload once available/ possible. Again waiting is fine, egging the notifications for fake updates is a pisstake.
It doesn't annoy me at all?Its disgusting how people are complaining about place holders all of a sudden,it's an illegal site god damn it if it bother yall so much pay money for it on the official websites
i love you
idk why everyone decided to argue under my comment, im being petty not taking a moral stance. idc about you or steph who isnt even translating the stuff shes uploading
anyway, if anyone wants to actually get to read this manhwa, ch 81 fant tanslation is up on bato
idk why yall arguing under my comment like im making some grand statement and not just being petty. i dont care
but i do like the way the placeholders arent doing shit cz ch 81 fan translation still got uploaded
theyre just there to pmo, all 5000 of them