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MC did study for them though. She learnt more about mathematics and all when studying under Karin iirc. She didn't know everything from the start.

agree with you, I would die in my math class without a calculator

Because the author isn’t that good I guess

Funny how you read it from the start yet seems to forget to read those chapters where the princess was taught? And what's wrong with her filing an objection for "injustice"? So if you met a person with a sad back story, and fought him/her fair and square, you also got perfect and the first one to passed the exam paper, and you got 2nd place? You will just gonna keep quite about it?



Young toddler, you must think before you blab nonsensical things about that. No matter what place you got, if you do your best and you think you have rights to object, DO IT. No matter who you will gonna face, DO IT. Because in this world, no one will fight for your rights but you, ONLY YOU. You are not a princess, not a royal blood, you might don't have the saddest background, you mught not sickly, you might not rich nor the poorest, but if you know someone is trying to violate your rights, FIGHT FOR IT. What happened with toddlers now adays? All talk no bite?

Hello there d_ck.simp, a funny name for someone trying to sermon someone possibly younger than them. 



Anyways, I know she was taught by her mentor but I was pointing out how these stories never bother discussing or mentioning any difference they have with our world regarding curriculum. The protagonists just excel at almost everything and they usually solve complex problems without using calculators. Even my engineering friends always have a calculator or some system to calculate things for them.



About the injustice, no one said not to fight for injustice. If you read the following sentences and had some reading comprehension, you might have found out that I was criticizing the author for how they painted the situation. In the original story, Yuri should have won that olympiad if the protagonist wasn’t there. It’s even hilarious how while the protagonist recognized who Yuri was, the protagonist brushed her off as someone insignificant (“She didn’t have a major role in the original work.”). Where’s the justice for Yuri? Now with their involvement, not only did the protagonist jeopardize Yuri’s right for that 1st place they also potentially put Yuri and her family in danger. And now we have our protagonist fight for her justice? It’s ironic. After the protagonist gets her justice, she will save Yuri from the predicament she created and Yuri will find the protagonist her savior. 



What a wholesome and great ending that teaches us that it’s ok to steal someone’s achievement as long as you save them in the future! /s (in case you didn’t get it)



1. FL didn't steal anyone's achievement. She earned it.

2. Sure this story doesn't talk about the differences between our curriculum and their world curriculum but there are manhwas that do mention it. I can't mention any from the top of my head but the most significant difference in it is History. The history of their world differs from our world. As for maths, it's the same in some worlds while for others they don't even have the concept of 0 which our MC has to introduce.

3. Girl, you just said FL brushed off Yuri as insignificant. Then how did you want her to react? To fawn over her, saying how amazing she is? Become her bestie or something?

4. How the heck did she put Yuri and her family in danger? Also, it's not like the FL is meaninglessly participating in the competition.

Tbh, to me you sound like those character in manhwas who force the MCs to follow the original plot even if their ending in the original plot is bad.

1. Right, she earned 1st place in this timeline because she participated in it (after getting tutored by a great mentor and having her past life memory) which should’ve been Yuri’s if she wasn’t there.

2. Uhh… I don’t understand why you’re bringing up a potential manhwa (but no title) that does mention differences when I am specifically speaking about those that don’t, like this one. Also, the history of another world would be obviously different. Again, I don’t understand why you’re bringing up irrelevant/obvious information. You guys love to ignore the fact that I’m mostly talking about the curriculum that involves solving equations (mathematics, geometry, and physics) and the protagonist solving them WITHOUT a calculator.

3. Fawning over Yuri wasn’t even the point since the protagonist complimented Yuri multiple times, which I stated in my original post. Can you even READ? I mentioned her brushing off Yuri as insignificant to emphasize that the author tries to justify the protagonist taking 1st place instead of Yuri. The whole development reads, “Yeah she’s just a minor poor character that doesn’t impact the story so it shouldn’t matter if I take away the 1st place that was hers originally and earn myself some money!” The protagonist lacks empathy or even a sense of what she’s doing to Yuri. She’s there complementing and hyping Yuri up just to beat her and take 1st place. In other words, she’s a fake “friend.”

4. I will confess, this is just a prediction of the future chapters. However, the protagonist does paint that Yuri and her family are dependent on the duke’s sponsorship, like foreshadowing future events. If Yuri loses 1st place (despite getting a perfect score), the duke and little brat will be disappointed and angry and will likely punish Yuri for losing to the “useless” princess. Later, the protagonist will save Yuri in this situation and might also be Yuri’s new sponsor and savior. I guess it’s alright as long as everything ends well, right? We will just have to wait.

I am not sure why you’re assuming that; you’re not the only one frustrated by those protagonists who insist on following the original story and fumbling. It is just frustrating that the protagonist is POTENTIALLY creating a problem that they will somehow solve and be the hero to the victim. Moreover, it is not like she has it bad, she has already changed the story and become adored and loved.

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For someone reading on a place that some writers have been fighting against for their justice, It must be nice to have your “justice” speech today, huh? Don’t even try to teach someone about justice or anything at all if you’re just going to belittle and call them a toddler. It makes you sound narcissistic and delusional, so insufferable to talk to. 

Before you get started on criticizing me for being here as well, I don’t care about them. I’ll continue to read here until its gone, leave my opinions on the many stories I will read, and maybe even take my time to respond to hypocrites like you.



Lastly, you’re QUITE a lame adult who doesn’t even know the difference between quiet and quite.

So, just to be sure, are you blaming the FL for participating in the competition or are you blaming her for taking the first place even though she knew that Yuri was dependent on scholarships?

Well, there’s more to it than that. But to answer your question, it’s a little bit of both but more on the latter. There are many ways for her to earn money without sabotaging someone’s scholarship. For example, she could collaborate with her mentor and many others to create a piece of our modern technology to further show to more people she’s not just a “useless” princess. Or anything that the author can be creative about instead of this plain development. But just to be clear, I’m not saying she needs to turn a blind to the discrimination/injustice she experienced. Hell, as someone who also competed in some olympiad, I would be the first on those professors’ faces if I learned that I should have been 1st place

...I really want the princess to take the math genius, there she could be treated well. And Yuri's essential for the future plot developments. It's better to have a safe and secured future in the palace than stay with the sponsor... that's what I think...
And the intellectual propertyyyyyyy I'm so excited for karin to faceslap(not literally) those unfair bastards.

https://www.novelupdates.com/series/i-was-just-having-fun-with-the-time-limit/#comment-426887 up until ch 55, I wish her happiness!

I am sorry to burst people's bubble... but you don't need a calculator most of the time. Even some University math exams.

I did plenty math exams without calculator. It was a grace too good for us when the teachers or professors allowed calculator. So... And their math is pretty "affordable" given the MC's current knowledge.

Pre-university and university math course most often focus on "demonstration". So, being able to perform well without a calculator is not that impressive. It is expected to some extent. I remember my days as a middle schooler, we were not that reliant on calculators unless it was a Physics/Chemistry class. In my stat class, we would use the calculator/excel because the math do be done is not efficiently demonstrable and will most likely be run by an empirical program like Python or Excel. So yah. Math without calculator is pretty basic. I am not saying that as nerd, I am saying that as person who went through system. We were even able to solve matrix without calculator. No matter how complex equations are, at the end of the day, you'll end up doing addition, soustraction, multiplication and division. It's the same all over again just with letters and funny formatting.

Don’t worry, you’re not bursting anyone’s bubble. Indeed, many university math exams do not require calculators because they’re usually made simple because of time restrictions.

HOWEVER, did you even look at how the artist portrayed the test? It is a complex geometry problem, there’s no way you can solve that without a calculator. That is not your typical sin(90-degree) type of exam. Moreover, look at the problem the protagonist solved in chapter 31. It looks like some kind of a field equation which again you can’t solve without a calculator because of constants being either extremely small numbers like the G (Newtonian constant of gravitation) or big like c (speed of light).

What exactly does “…their math is pretty ‘affordable’ given the MC's current knowledge.” even mean?

While I understand you mentioning your university math experiences because of their complexity of some level, I don’t understand your point for bringing up how it’s not impressive to not use a calculator when the protagonist somehow solved a field equation problem WITHOUT a calculator. What she did is quite impressive IF it was real.

“…we were not that reliant on calculators unless it was a Physics/Chemistry class.”
Exactly, one of the problems the protagonist solved is a physics problem that requires a calculator.

“Math without calculator is pretty basic”
Except, the test the protagonist took is far from basic.

“No matter how complex equations are, at the end of the day, you'll end up doing addition, soustraction, multiplication and division. It's the same all over again just with letters and funny formatting.”
While it’s true that you will mainly use those applications, that doesn’t necessarily mean a calculator wouldn’t be necessary. There are factors such as fractions/decimals, angles, radicals, etc that will make calculations difficult without a calculator. Well, I guess you won’t need one if you’re given a SIMPLE exam where everything simplifies perfectly or where you don’t have to simplify your answer (exact number).

It’s important to recognize that while some math problems can appear simple, they can also be quite complex. Unlike computers that can solve hundreds of calculations in a minute, humans typically require more time. The demonstration of these problems remains inherently complex.

Alluding that she couldn’t do it without a calculator is, frankly, preposterous. Throughout history, humans have repeatedly solved intricate mathematical problems using nothing more than pen, paper, and their intellect. Great mathematicians like Archimedes, Gauss, Newton, and Euler solved intricate problems long before calculators existed. They relied on deep understanding, practice, and logic to achieve groundbreaking results, showing that complexity alone does not make calculations impossible without modern tools. Many advanced mathematical formulas were developed long before calculators existed. Without simpler, efficient formulas, our understanding today would be vastly different.

In math, demonstrating the process is often more important than reaching a final number. Regarding constants, we often either had a formula sheet or were provided the constant values directly. Constants are often left in symbolic form, and the focus is on the structure of the solution rather than simply plugging in values.

The main character's (MC) math is described as "affordable" because it aligns with her level of knowledge. Though complex, it is within her grasp given her education and experience. When I refer to “affordable math,” I mean it is accessible or manageable within the context of the main character's (MC's) knowledge.

I have pointed out that such achievements may not seem impressive because they are expected. If someone teaches you how to solve a problem, successfully solving it isn’t totally remarkable—it’s anticipated. Still praiseworthy, but not as impossible as you may wish to make it sound. My critique is not on her accomplishments but rather on the exaggerated characterization (as implausible) of what she achieved.

Additionally, we should acknowledge the rigorous educational systems in countries like South Korea, Japan, and China, which stress strong foundational math skills, mental arithmetic, and problem-solving techniques. The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) indicates that regions such as Shanghai, Beijing, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea consistently rank highly in global math assessments. This highlights a significant level of math proficiency among students in these areas. I’m not attempting to stereotype but rather to emphasize that these educational systems are highly effective.

The MC’s abilities are believable because she was already skilled in math before being trained by one of the brightest minds of her new world. Historically, people like Archimedes and Gauss achieved remarkable mathematical feats with far fewer resources, and there is no reason why someone with modern knowledge and good teaching couldn’t do the same. Complex math is entirely doable without calculators for those with proper training and understanding.

Consider the context of my earlier statement: “as a middle schooler.” In contrast, I noted that pre-university and university math courses often focus on demonstration. Think critically about this. Is middle school math more challenging than pre-university and university math? While both contexts may involve calculations without calculators, it is generally at the discretion of teachers or professors to allow calculators.

You noted that “the test the protagonist took is far from basic.” Yes and my point remains that performing math without a calculator is relatively basic (especially if well-taught); it’s simply “math without a calculator.” Given her strong mathematical background, I find her accomplishments entirely believable. I’ve won a few math competitions and ranked nationally in high school; thus, her achievements do not seem far-fetched.

It seems perplexing that one would question the abilities of a well-versed mathematician, especially someone with a proven acumen in math, merely because she can solve complex problems without a calculator. To suggest that her achievements are implausible doesn't say much about her talent; instead, it exposes a lack of confidence or understanding. Mathematicians throughout history, from Archimedes to Euler and Gauss, tackled sophisticated problems without the convenience of calculators. These individuals were not superhuman—they developed extraordinary mathematical insight through rigorous study, practice, and logical reasoning. To doubt that a modern individual, taught by one of the brightest minds of their era, can achieve similar feats reveals a misunderstanding of both historical precedent and the capabilities of the human mind when nurtured properly.

Finally, you said "I also wish they showed the mc studying prior and learning the curriculum is somewhat different but uses similar concepts and learn those differences." Girl literally learned Magic. I mean, did you skip chapters? Because she had her training pre and post-reincarnation.

So yes, I was and am still bursting your bubble.

You’re right, it is not impossible to calculate such complex problems but will take a tremendous amount of time which the manhwa didn’t portray properly. In this case, we don’t know how much time they were given and how much of the allotted time the main character (MC) used to complete the test.

Yes, demonstrating the process is often more important than solving for the final number, especially for learning and for tests that are restricted in time. However, that point collapses in this particular scenario as the MC calculated 311934 m/s, meaning she made manual computations with those constants.

My critique was never about doubting the MC’s level of knowledge but rather about the feeling of the absurdity of the situation in a manhwa like this where the MC and the other children are taking a complex and time-consuming test without a calculator. But from all this discussion about solving the test with or without a calculator (advance), I realized that calculators are potentially not available yet in this new world and they had no choice but to manually compute everything like the great mathematicians you listed. Thus, I’ll admit that my bubble burst.

My comment, “I also wish they showed the MC studying prior and learning the curriculum is somewhat different but uses similar concepts and learn those differences.” is often misunderstood because I wasn’t clear enough. I acknowledge the MC studied but I had hoped there was emphasis that there were differences between our worlds in terms of curriculum. The MC said, “Anyone in the science track in South Korea could solve this easily.” this threw me off since it implied that the test questions she saw were similar to questions seen in our world. I wanted the questions to be about what she learned in this new world. I wanted her to emphasize the concepts she learned with Karin and her preparations specifically for the Olympiad and not just her general studies which we all saw.

It’s crucial to remind ourselves that many talented and hardworking individuals achieve what might seem "out of the ordinary."

Your statement about how “it will take a tremendous amount” of time is your interpretation. I suggested that modern tools can expedite calculations, especially in terms of quantity. Your belief that she may require more time doesn't align with the story's premise, which presents a genius shaped by talent and hard work. Sometimes, you need to think outside your own box. Some people excel without needing extra time or even calculators; they simply fit the definition of a genius.

Regarding "MC calculated 311934 m/s"—so what? The significance lies in the demonstration, which is so crucial that her results were scrutinized due to her methods. They argued in bad faith; Still, from my experience, I voluntary dropped a math course for similar reasons. Despite my results being correct, the teachers refused my approach, reduced my grade, since it was not "as I taught ", which I found really insulting, especially for such a respectable University. I redid the course with a more open-minded professor and slayed my way there. So, yah, congrats for getting the correct number, odds are you might still get 0 points. Furthermore, have you seen competitions for fast mental calculation? Participants use tactics to manipulate numbers quickly in their minds. As we do written ones, having paper to draft on is a bonus. Manual calculations with constants aren’t revolutionary; as I mentioned, we either had a formula sheet or were given constant values directly. Occasionally, we memorize key constants, like knowing pi, and one of my friends even memorized pi to ten digits for fun. Ultimately, demonstration leads to intelligible calculations, on most often a number. My High and Middle school teachers used to follow this pattern "I grade your result only 25%, and 75% for the actual work to get there".

I already stated that "my critique is not on her accomplishments but on the exaggerated characterization of what she achieved" as if it was "implausible". I highlighted the MC's capabilities to support that her achievements are "affordable", within her reach, making them plausible.

I don’t find this situation absurd. While I may not have studied to become a magician and am unfamiliar with its intricacies, I know that it is rooted in logic. I’ve participated in math competitions (pretty basic to be honest) and am aware of even more challenging ones for younger participants. Consider rigorous competitions like the AMC, MOEMS, IMO, MathCounts, APMO, KMO, and MTS—no calculators are allowed, and they involve kids. These could be quite challenging even for undergraduate students.

The statement, “Anyone in the science track in South Korea could solve this easily,” stands on its own. Let your imagination roam. Some chapters feature characters babbling theories, which I find off-putting (personal opinion here). If I wanted to learn actual math, I'd refer to my dusty textbooks or pursuing additional certifications instead of wading through countless pages of pseudo-science dialogue. Still, I acknowledge your valid critique; we may simply have differing opinions on the matter. Personally, I appreciate that the author didn’t dwell too long on these discussions, considering that the MC has a short lifespan, which might lose the interest of plot-focused readers.

I’ve heard of Atelier (manga) and its focus on witchcraft. I understand that the theorization is quite elaborate, so you might find that intriguing. Hunter x Hunter with Nen is also well-regarded for its intricate system worth theorizing about.

Thank you. I understand now that there are things I failed to consider—the MC being a genius. The same goes for the ability to compute these kinds of numbers without needing a “tremendous” amount of time since I never met or seen someone like that.

For clarity, I mentioned "MC calculated 311934 m/s" to point out that the MC did not just demonstrate the process but also computed a result, surprisingly without a calculator (which I understand is plausible). It was a response to your generalizing statement that constants are left alone. Still, the statement about the significance of demonstration is something I agree with.

Unfortunately, I’ve also had professors who wanted a specific way of computation that contradicted my already learned method.

I’ll admit “absurdity” wasn’t the best word but what I meant was that it was shocking to see these rigorous competitions as someone not familiar with them. I’ve only been to basic competitions hosted by school districts. I also acknowledged that the MC’s achievement was plausible in my last response hence the bubble-burst comment.

About characters discussing theories regarding their world, I find them enjoyable and allow me to immerse in their world. I also find it fun to spot differences between their world and ours. It’s not about learning math we already know but a different perspective/foundation of another world. It didn’t have to be a long discussion on that matter, it could’ve been just bits of small thoughts she has as she lives and grows. Either way, it was only wishful thinking as I said in my original post.

Lastly, thanks for the recommendations but I’ve already read those.

Insightful conversation. Thanks as well.

Damn it was so fun to read the back and forth conversation between DJhunter and Gravenshi. I guess it's over now.

ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ I guess all the good things have an end.

I’m surprised that someone found my stubbornness fun lol but seriously, I learned a few things from Gravenshi.

I don't get them at all. Like that's so overrated, would they also want someone like that in real life?

NOOO FR? like not one ounce of attraction from any of the ml's towards the og fl.. considering fl has come to a time where everyone already hated her.. wouldn't the male leads be more interested in ogfl?

shut up pussy

Great, just what you’d expect from a brain rot.

learn to take a joke bro

I get humor is subjective, but nothing that anyone's saying is funny. It's more like wishful thinking.

Can say I agree with the op comment though. I didn't see no wlw between Cam and Lil. It just seemed like genuine friendship Ars and Cam have more screentime/chemistry than Cam and Lil. Though it would be a twist if the two girls did end up. However I don't think it'll end that way

You think people are quoting song lyrics in a super serious way? Lmao. Realistically, everyone knows there's a 0.01% chance that this webtoon will suddenly become a GL despite having no marketing for it. That's why it's a joke. It's obvious that it won't happen, but the way the flashback was set up DID remind a lot of people of childhood-friends-to-lovers tropes, and that's funny!

Even if a few people are holding out genuine hope for it, that's the way they choose to have fun, so let them be. Cringe this, cringe that. The most embarrassing people of all are those that can't let go and be a little silly sometimes. And even worse, those that shame others for being able to do it.

I wasn't shaming no one and I apologize if it came off that way. I was just voicing my own opinion that I didn't think the jokes were funny hence why I said I'm aware humor was subjective

You think those people were quoting song lyrics? BFFR

Idk why the comment got cut… Anyways, even if they know it’s a shoujo webtoon, they don’t care and will continue shouting for the story to become GL despite the ogfl being pretty much an extra that appeared again just for this arc. It gets worse when they shout queer baiting and suggest it’s a serious problem.

Like Aicchi said, humor is subjective and isn’t about not being “silly” sometimes. I didn’t find it funny instead found it abhorrent. Wishing for the mc to have lesbian relationship with her friend is much more embarrassing than those that “can’t let go.” It is cringey. Don’t act like you never cringed at someone’s behavior when having “fun.”

well,,, yeah, that's what the countless "WAS IT CASUAL" reference, the song Casual by Chappell Roan

Of course I've cringed. Then I caught myself and realized "I have so many interests other people find cringe, and I don't like it when I'm shamed for those, so why do I do it to others? why am I making the world more hostile and unpleasant? why do I want people to be unhappy?" I try to not do it anymore. It's not like it never happens, but I never feel justified in it - it's just unfortunate that human beings are so inherently cruel that they derive pleasure from the suffering of real people over their harmless little hobbies.

Plus, you're in the comments of a mangago upload of a shoujo webtoon yourself. Do you think you're not universally considered cringe? Do you think cringing at others makes you better? You can't even articulate what's so "abhorrent" about rooting for a fictional character to be *bisexual, all you do is doompost over fucking nothing. Nobody's suggested there's a serious problem with queerbaiting in this webtoon, you're just overly threatened at the slightest mention of sapphic women. FICTIONAL ones, mind you. You're mocking real people over how they play with fictional characters.

Humour IS subjective, so accept that there was a joke and you just didn't get it. Or if you're unwilling to grow up, then please be loud about all the things you cringe at, so the only company you attract is as unpleasant as your worldview.

aw no worries, and I'm sorry too, I was too hostile. Cringe culture is such a pit of misery, it riles me up when I see people engaging in it. Hope you see a beautiful sunset tonight and feel at peace when you fall asleep

Wow we have such a good person here yet a self-claimed hypocrite. People cringe because something made them uncomfortable/disgusted, no need to feel justified about it. Also, you realized not everyone knowingly or even referenced the song, right?

Am I cringe in a piracy website? Maybe but implying I derive pleasure from the suffering of real people? You’re reaching, I merely voiced an opinion. I don’t find fun in even having this dialogue thus this will be my last reply.

But before I go, I’ll try to be clear what I found abhorrent about people rooting for a definite straight fictional woman to have a relationship with another. First of all, being “threatened” with sapphic women is not true. To me, it is mentally unhealthy for people to encourage delusions. i find it similar to when someone forces themselves on a another just because they’re lonely etc.

I only mentioned accusations of queer baiting as the next step for these wishful thinking. Why? Because I’ve seen it plenty of times in shoujo/shounen manga/webtoon comment sections for nothing but close friendship, believe it or not. It is simply not a healthy way to engage with literature or anything. If telling people those people are cringe is mocking them so be it.

Humor IS subjective, so accept it if not everyone found it funny and instead found it offensive/disgusting. Or if you’re not willing to grow up from unhealthy habits/jokes, then please be prepared to be criticized by public.

2/10 girl yeah, stop debating, you're no good at it.
For one, I never called myself a good person. I don't even think those exist - anyone can slip into cruelty, it's each person's own responsibility to fight against that through self-awareness. You pay no attention to your mind, so your reasoning ability is also that of a child's.

Even when you thought you explained why you found it abhorrent, all that came out was more statements with zero basis. WHY do you believe this is unhealthy? Do you have a real reason for those beliefs? Probably not, considering the psychiatric research doesn't actually support you. Doubt you've ever cracked open a book on the topic, you just assume your comfort is the baseline for right and wrong. Fix your narcissism before you complain about the delusions of other people.

Had you also actually done any research, you'd know that just going "yall are cringe" in the comments isn't fixing anything. Nobody's going "oh my god, I see the light, I'm going to live a life random commenter #8437256 approves of from now on". And you say that to cringe, to you, means to be disgusted or offended. So people who need mental help disgust and offend you? And you're clearly not trying to help them, you're "just voicing an opinion" - so then what is your comment for, if not to take pleasure from looking down on people you view as lesser than you? Are you opening your mouth just to waste air? Again, you don't think your actions through.

You also make comparisons that make no sense. In no world is a fictional story with paper dolls equivalent to SEXUAL ASSAULT. Take 5 seconds to think before you type, for the love of god. No, wait, that wouldn't help if you're incapable of self-reflection.

The cherry on top is your failed flipping of my final paragraph. Again demonstrating that you're unable to think things through. I can accept that you didn't enjoy the humour, but this conversation was not about whether you found it funny, it was about the fact that you refused to accept those comments were joking AT ALL. So here you forget your own point just to try (and fail) to get a gotcha that sounds good to you. And again, "unhealthy habits" is factually incorrect, research shows that transformative play with fictional characters is healthy, and that's all you've currently seen evidence of happening here (ignoring the stuff you've imagined MIGHT happen because it's happened SOMEWHERE before). Finally, I'm not the one crying about being criticized - I was never the target of your complaints. You made a comment targetinbg a very broad group of people that I wasn't a part of, and *I* made the criticism of your evident unthinking *behaviour*. You're also hardly considered "the public". Which again kind of suggests you think yourself way more important than you are.

All-in-all, an interesting talk. I want to believe you can overcome these weaknesses of yours one day, before they end up getting you hurt. I know you'll never accept this message from me since I've probably attacked the whole of your self-esteem too aggressively, but I truly hope you don't have to go through any actual suffering just to get perspective.

Actually now I feel like I was too harsh on you. I may vehemently disagree with you, and I do think your arguments aren't very thought-through, but I didn't have to go so hard on you for it. I apologize for that. You're not stupid and I hope I didn't make you feel as if you are. I just think you have growing left to do - but getting insulted most likely won't help, if anything it'll just push you further away from the point I initially tried to make. Sorry I got so harsh. I don't like you, but I hope everything will be well for you regardless.

Alright, you seem like a good person so I’ll share my experience. The reason for “To me, it is mentally unhealthy for people to encourage delusions [of hoping to change other’s sexuality].” and related it to sexual assault is that I was afraid that those delusions would turn to reality like with my ex-friend who tried to take advantage of me and tried to turn me to a straight man just a few years ago. She was disgusting and often talked like the comments (playing things as a joke) that’s why I truly don’t find the joke humorous but instead disgusting. I DID acknowledge that it can be a joke (“I didn’t find it [the joke] funny instead found it abhorrent.”) but it can be distasteful to some people, which I tried to communicate in my previous comments and the last paragraph.

You are right, I never cracked a book on this matter and only based it on my past experiences. So, I’ll trust you for your research about transformative play with fictional characters (ie. changing their sexuality) being healthy but I can’t help but be skeptical about how healthy can it be. Where can the line be drawn? I guess I can’t help imagining the worst scenario…

To clarify, I said “People cringe because something made them uncomfortable/disgusted, no need to feel justified about it.” to imply that it can be an automatic response and that cringe, in my opinion, can be caused by uncomfortableness to disgust. I never said the commenters need mental help. I just said that what they’re saying/encouraging is cringe whether it’s a joke or not, because I was triggered. I was never trying to help in that sense.

I’m not sure what you mean by me being hardly considered public. I never claimed to be THE public but I believe I am a part of it since this website is open to the public, if I understood the word properly.

Lastly, I appreciate your well wishes. I know I still have growing up to do while trying to forget. I hope you can understand what I’m trying to communicate.

I understand your viewpoint more now. I'm so sorry you went through those things, and I hope life is kinder to you going forward. Your ex-friend sounds awful and I'm glad it seems like you've at least gained distance from her.

I think the line is drawn where the damage to real people starts. Having fun with fictional characters is good, it can be cathartic - the problem is when people use that as justification to attack the creators, who are real people. This isn't limited to just shipping though, there are also fans who attack characters for "making" characters suffer in canon. There are also lots of shippers who may discuss their preferences lightheartedly, but would never go so far as to harass the author about it. So that's why I'd rather not direct scorn at fans before they've actually crossed a line. Your ex-friend's treatment of you was also firmly over that line, and at that point claiming it's a joke doesn't justify anything.

But I understand where you're coming from. I'm sorry you had to experience being triggered like this. I hope it gets easier for you. And thank you for being understanding of my flaws and still being open to exchanging viewpoints with me. I don't think I'm a good person, I just try not to be someone I wouldn't like. I'll keep this experience in mind and try not to jump to conclusions so quickly in the future.

(And the confusion from the word "public" came because you used "by" instead of "in". If you mean simply in view of the public, not initiated by the public, then "in" would be correct. Just minor miscommunication.)

She’s living what she wanted in her previous life and already got one head don’t let this “ark” get you