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you can try Hero? I Quit A Long Time Ago but it takes long before the teaching arc.

https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/hero_i_quit_a_long_time_ago/

Trigger
Weak hero
Class group

*study group
Windbreaker

Many more.

I KNOW!!!! You know the emperor is going to have his head on a pike for that one

YEPP THE EMPEROR’S GOING TO BE SO MAD! How dare he touch the princess !

Right?? A lot of the people in the comments are hating on her for it but honestly, I like the change

Ikr we are too used to strong or cool fl that they forgot timid people also exist. In all honesty, she did a good job on her survival, tho its not all great, at least she survived now, arent she? I can relate to her a bit, not all people can just come out with brilliant escape plan in dangerous situations

I remember seeing this sort of trait in shounen ai isekai, mostly ones with black belly/yandere/villain love interests. But, being timid and unable to plan - isn't that a typical damsel in distress? I mean, it's a classic type that we haven't seen in the newer works, but pretty sure a lot of older manga have this kind of FL.

"This one looks timid and looks as if she's about to panic yet she's calm and strategic." See the difference between a damsel in distress and the fl here?

she hasn't done much strategy-wise though? Unless you're talking about quelling the rumors, which was partly thanks to ML playing along.

plus she's more frozen in fear than calm most of the time

I'm just quoting the original commenter (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
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Well in my opinion she has.
1st example was when she covered up for the male lead. Most people wouldn’t want to be involved with their killer who they saw kill someone who ever she thought by giving a good excuse for him he wouldn’t want to kill her anymore
2nd is how the female leads of other webtoon are constantly at question of their world despite the fact that they know whats going to happen. This FL actually uses her advance knowledge to her advantage.
3rd is when instead of waiting to be killed she actually tried to escape by cutting the rope of a sharp wood
4th is when she recognised that the drivers changed and immediately realise she was being kiddnapped. She also catches on quickly because shes very alert of her surroundings and once again, she used the book to her advantage by figuring out the reason for her kidnapping
She does not indulge in what others say (the queen) unlike other Fls when they find out things that they already know from reading
She also pounders about alot of important questions that’s necessary for the plot
In the lastest chapter we can see that she knowns how to calm her self down “calm down, think , think )
She thinks about alot. and proceeds with her thoughts impressively in my opinion

Her appearance may seem like she is a damsel in distress because of her expression but tbh if you pay attention to her thoughts and demenor . It shows just her intelligent she is

FL doesn't actually use her knowledge of the world to her advantage a lot - she knows she'll be killed and she freezes or panics and says the first thing to come to mind.

FL speaking up for the ML might be the only semi-smart thing she did. It might even have been the stupid thing to do if ML isn't as bloodthirsty as the rumors made him out to be, but a smart move if he was. The way she had done it however, was panicked babbling of the first thing she could think of. At no point does it show her considering what alibi might have been good, what the circumstances of the murder were etc.

The only way FL uses her knowledge of the world is to panic about the ML. All her foreknowledge counts for nothing after ML decided on the fiancee move. She knows about the queen's rebellion but doesn't have the power or ability to do anything - not even send an anonymous list of conspirators to ML. The only thing she did was go to the burning site with no plan, no protection, no disguise even - all because it was different from the plot. She just steps out of a carriage to see a burning building for...what, exactly? It wasn't like ML would have missed that guy without her stumbling into the situation. FLs of other webtoons have used their foreknowledge far better than she has - take Latte from miss-not-so-sidekick, or penelope for death-is-always-the-ending-for-the-villainess. There are a lot more examples available.

She realized she was being kidnapped when she woke up - before that, she was basically thinking 'oh well, it's not like I can do anything in the carriage anyway.' - which, while not paranoid is also pretty unremarkable. She was absolutely right about the coachman's voice being different, but she also realized how powerless she was to do anything in that scenario - because she didn't anticipate, she didn't plan. If ML wasn't keeping tabs on her, she would have died, possibly multiple times.

She was kidnapped, not exactly in bandit country and also when her family has few enemies - that she didn't anticipate something like this happening is a good enough sign of how much she ponders the book. She already knew what kind of opposition ML had, it would have made sense that someone (possibly even ML himself) wanted to kill his fiancee. Yet she took no protective detail, no company, nothing. She couldn't even leave behind any sign in the carriage itself because she couldn't even begin to guess which of ML's enemies might have done this.

If you find yourself in an unknown place, would you just wait around? She got exceptionally lucky with that plank (how in the world do you even have a plank that sharp jutting out of a wall??) Her escape attempt was sad at best, she didn't even try to stun the first kidnapper on her way out, she just shoved him aside. And quite predictable, he called for help, having her caught in seconds.

It might have been smarter to play along with the queen and fake reactions if her objective was to live. Even if she doesn't react internally, an external reaction might have bought her more time, possibly even a deal with the queen where she might have walked on her own.

She really doesn't ponder anything till it hits her in the face. Plot points are introduced when they happen, MC hasn't planned out anything.

If anyone plans here, it's ML. FL is a damsel in distress through and through, her thoughts show how little she is able to remain calm. Her master plan is to 'get away from ML after fixing his reputation', despite the fact that he's her fiance and her doing just that might be easily enough to have him kill her. She is a girl out of her depth, trying her best.

She's very ordinary except for her ability, and I think this is meant to be the charm. Not an FL who thinks extensively and plans her moves like a chessmaster, not an FL who is a quick thinker and smooth talker, she's just a very average girl of average intelligence thrown into a plot with too much intrigue for her to keep up with. So it's hard for her to navigate a plot where more powerful and intelligent villains pull strings from the shadows. She's no mary sue, she's being used all around.

My… it seems you just dont approve of her as a good Fl . Well for me, I’ve read many series such as this and out of all of them , to me , she stands out simply because of how her appearance and expressions are contrary to her thoughts

"how her appearance and expressions are contrary to her thoughts"

They really aren't. She wears her heart on her sleeve. FLs from "virtues of the villainess" and "miss not-so sidekick" are possibly truer to their emotions, but she's definitely quite open with them. Her thoughts are more like desperately hoping something works out, pretty evident from the anxiety and panic on her face most of the time. The only time she hides anything is when her childhood friends question her, and she wouldn't have been very convincing there if ML didn't back her up immediately.

There are villainess stories where FL masks her thoughts and emotions to avoid danger, manipulate the situation to her advantage, outplay her opponents or even just hide. Some of these I can remember:
"the princess pretends to be crazy"
"the way to protect the female lead's older brother"
"the villainess is a marionette"
"the inner palace tale of a villainess noble girl"
"say ah, the golden spoon is entering"
"it looks like i've fallen into the world of a reverse harem game"
"villainess maker"

There's even your tsun FL that does this just because it's in her nature in "the tyrant's guardian is an evil witch"

Timid FLs aren't too hard to find either:
"beatrice"
"a way to protect you the lovable you"
"courier falcon princess"
"a villain's aesthetic"
"the stereotypical life of a reincarnated lady"

I get that you like her, I just don't see how she stands out at all when there are so many others that do it better. She's just... ordinary.

I take it back, there is one definite way I'll remember her

magnet head~ magnet head~ why are your powers so wonderful~

THIS. THIS ENTIRE COMMENT. You had me cheering for you from a mile away lol you said everything i wanted to say (≧∀≦)

Yes. To meat

i like meat

Me too lol

Yeah she is going to meat the crown prince and then hug the second prince (˵ ° ʖ °˵)

ugh i did not realise my typo….but u guys get the point lmao

Exactly circumstances are not meant to make psychopaths. I understand what he has been through but that’s not an excuse for killing, endangering and almost killing innocent people. He should get treated then punished

I did mention paying the price and getting help
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I’m agreeing with you

True that, they have been hinting that he is schizophrenic sooo either the ending is happy and he goes to jail for people with mental disorders or he dies idk