The seme doesn't know bout the uke's issues, they signed a contract and the seme is just acting how a dom would act in a rl bdsm situation. If BDSM isn't your thing and you're more into mushy shit then go read fluffy stuff, not this ty
Tbh i think the author does plan for the seme or uke to adjust and this turns into a 'normal' relationship. But right now it's purely PetPlay. Stop expecting more from the seme right this second.
Yes, thank you! I dabble in the lifestyle and have been part of some clubs-- you're not going to have an in depth relationship at all times with partners and so sudden personal issues do sometimes ruin a scene. It's why having an agreement / contract beforehand is always important to maintain the fun, safe and consensual rule at all times. In this case, whilst they don't employ the traffic light system for safe words, the seme did keep to the agreement of stopping the scene the moment the uke said NO.
Lol I was thinking the same, the seme is acting how he should in this relationship. I guess a lot of people forget that they do not have a relationship outside of the puppy play, so it is difficult when personal problems come into play. Also I did not realize that the seme reacted and stopped like that because the uke said NO, thank you for putting that in :)
Yes, thank you! I dabble in the lifestyle and have been part of some clubs-- you're not going to have an in depth relationship at all times with partners and so sudden personal issues do sometimes ruin a scene.... anonienonie
I didn't even notice the fact he stopped the second the uke said no. But you are right there. In all honesty the Seme is being respectful to the contract and hasn't done anything wrong! (although a safe word would be good) People screaming the the seme is an arse clearly don't know how BDSM works lol
I didn't even notice the fact he stopped the second the uke said no. But you are right there. In all honesty the Seme is being respectful to the contract and hasn't done anything wrong! (although a safe word wo... BlackDog
I expect things to get a bit murkier/fall into the typical yaoi tropes since this is fiction; but yes, as far as their agreement goes, the seme hasn't done anything to that's gone against it. Speaking on a real life basis, the contract is concerning because it's quite extreme in its tenets: saying 'no' means end of the agreement. If safewords were to be employed, then really, it's similar to a lot of contracts I've seen.
It'll be interesting how the next chapter will play out since the uke said no-- will the seme listen and thus deepen their relationship more? Or will he stay true to the contract and end their agreement?
The contract is sketchy (I'm especially iffy because the top KNEW his sub was ineperienced and didn't know what's standard and what's not, it's sadly common in RL BDSM circles as well),. Sure, the seme didn't go against it, but if a scene gets interrupted by the sub getting overwhelmed and panicked, I don't care if it's a pump and dump or whatever the fuck, you DON'T threaten them with abandonment, that's one of the lowest forms of manipulation and just a shitty thing to do as a human being, period. He should've ended the scene and waited until Puppy calmed down before bringing forth the issue of ending the contract because Puppy broke the terms.
Sure, it's not "against the rules" as that shitty contract didn't employ any kind of safe words and the top isn't contractually obligated to not be a complete dickweed, but that doesn't mean his reaction wasn't destructive and abusive as all hell.
It's not illegal to be an asshole. That doesn't mean you should do it or people should tolerate you being one.
The contract is sketchy (I'm especially iffy because the top KNEW his sub was ineperienced and didn't know what's standard and what's not, it's sadly common in RL BDSM circles as well),. Sure, the seme didn't g... Squibbles
Saying 'if you don't want to do it then you don't have to' is not abandoning. The uke over-reacted. The seme doesn't know the uke's issues so isn't going to magically know what to do and say. Yes there are some bad parts such as no safeword, but the fact he instantly stopped shows that he's not just being a shitty person that doesn't care about the uke. The seme's response was not 'abusive' in my opinion, he just didn't know and told the uke to leave if he can't do it. There is no forceing, no manipulation (unlike a lot of yaoi's out there).
Just because the seme isn't a mind reader doesn't mean he's a dickweed.
Saying 'if you don't want to do it then you don't have to' is not abandoning. The uke over-reacted. The seme doesn't know the uke's issues so isn't going to magically know what to do and say. Yes there are some... BlackDog
But he didn't say that out of the goodness of his heart or out of concern for his sub. First off, he's saying it's about the Puppy wanting or not wanting to obey him when he's obviously distressed, panicked, overwhelmed and crying, as if his emotional reaction is something he CHOSE to do. That is a red flag. The fact that he saw another human being in distress and overwhelmed and his first and foremost priority was to indirectly and manipulatively place the blame on the sub by implying he's CHOOSING to disobey is shitty. Period. He's not truly offering the sub a chance to walk away, he's trying to exert his control over Puppy by telling him he's on the top's last nerve and that the top is unhappy with his performance. Look at the top's expression, he's visibly pissed and you can't convince me otherwise.
Often, and I say this as a Dom and someone who's done BDSM for almost a decade, first as a sub and then as a Dom, people use BDSM as a way to deal with trauma and issues. Not always and not nearly everyone, but it's a common enough occurrence that any Dom who's had more than a couple of partners comes across reactions like that and should know how to deal with them. And the way to deal with them is not to guilt trip your sub for having an emotional reaction. Submitting yourself to the hands of another human being and giving them complete control makes one feel extremely vulnerable and sometimes, they get overwhelmed. When that happens the number one priority should be to de-escalate. Stop the scene, calm the situation, give them reassurance if they want it and make the sub feel safe. Then, you can start talking about whether you should continue the relationship. Hell, before I do a single scene with a person, I ask them if they're prone to emotional outbursts and if that happens, what they want me to do. Sometimes, I have subs telling me they sometimes start crying because they're overwhelmed but that they prefer if I keep going unless they safe word. Sometimes, they say they want to be treated firmly when they panic, maybe held down.
The fact the seme, while knowing Puppy is extremely shy and inexperienced, didn't as much as stop to ask if there's anything Puppy doesn't like or is triggering to him before setting a foot in the bedroom is another red flag. I know it's sadly common in RL BDSM circles, when I first started out there was a veteran member in my local kinky club who just _happened_ to be into CNC with noob women. The fact that they ~consented~ didn't mean they knew what they were getting themselves into and he eventually got arrested for sexual assault which surprised no one. Any sensible and responsible BDSM relationship, be it one scene, non-romantic or romantic long-term, starts with communication from _both sides_ to introduce kinks and boundaries. If it's just one scene, it doesn't have to be a five-hour negotiation, it can just be a brief rundown of kinks and NG on both sides before they get to it, but it's imperative both sides get a word in as for what they wish to ensue and what's off-limits.
In this story, the top has just brute-forced his way to control the situation and he has blatantly groomed Puppy throughout the story. Hell, the first thing he ever did to Puppy was made unsolicited advances. He took advantage of Puppy knowing he's inexperienced and shy, sprung an extremely oppressive contract on him with a "it's my way or the highway" -attitude while giving Puppy no room to voice his thoughts or negotiate, and then pushed Puppy too far. And Puppy, being inexperienced, eager to pleace and head over heels for the top, went along with it. Not because he truly knows what he's doing, but because he's in love and doesn't know any better.
The seme doesn't know bout the uke's issues, they signed a contract and the seme is just acting how a dom would act in a rl bdsm situation.
If BDSM isn't your thing and you're more into mushy shit then go read fluffy stuff, not this ty
Tbh i think the author does plan for the seme or uke to adjust and this turns into a 'normal' relationship. But right now it's purely PetPlay. Stop expecting more from the seme right this second.
Yes, thank you! I dabble in the lifestyle and have been part of some clubs-- you're not going to have an in depth relationship at all times with partners and so sudden personal issues do sometimes ruin a scene. It's why having an agreement / contract beforehand is always important to maintain the fun, safe and consensual rule at all times. In this case, whilst they don't employ the traffic light system for safe words, the seme did keep to the agreement of stopping the scene the moment the uke said NO.
Lol I was thinking the same, the seme is acting how he should in this relationship. I guess a lot of people forget that they do not have a relationship outside of the puppy play, so it is difficult when personal problems come into play. Also I did not realize that the seme reacted and stopped like that because the uke said NO, thank you for putting that in :)
I didn't even notice the fact he stopped the second the uke said no. But you are right there. In all honesty the Seme is being respectful to the contract and hasn't done anything wrong! (although a safe word would be good)
People screaming the the seme is an arse clearly don't know how BDSM works lol
I expect things to get a bit murkier/fall into the typical yaoi tropes since this is fiction; but yes, as far as their agreement goes, the seme hasn't done anything to that's gone against it. Speaking on a real life basis, the contract is concerning because it's quite extreme in its tenets: saying 'no' means end of the agreement. If safewords were to be employed, then really, it's similar to a lot of contracts I've seen.
It'll be interesting how the next chapter will play out since the uke said no-- will the seme listen and thus deepen their relationship more? Or will he stay true to the contract and end their agreement?
The contract is sketchy (I'm especially iffy because the top KNEW his sub was ineperienced and didn't know what's standard and what's not, it's sadly common in RL BDSM circles as well),. Sure, the seme didn't go against it, but if a scene gets interrupted by the sub getting overwhelmed and panicked, I don't care if it's a pump and dump or whatever the fuck, you DON'T threaten them with abandonment, that's one of the lowest forms of manipulation and just a shitty thing to do as a human being, period. He should've ended the scene and waited until Puppy calmed down before bringing forth the issue of ending the contract because Puppy broke the terms.
Sure, it's not "against the rules" as that shitty contract didn't employ any kind of safe words and the top isn't contractually obligated to not be a complete dickweed, but that doesn't mean his reaction wasn't destructive and abusive as all hell.
It's not illegal to be an asshole. That doesn't mean you should do it or people should tolerate you being one.
Saying 'if you don't want to do it then you don't have to' is not abandoning. The uke over-reacted. The seme doesn't know the uke's issues so isn't going to magically know what to do and say.
Yes there are some bad parts such as no safeword, but the fact he instantly stopped shows that he's not just being a shitty person that doesn't care about the uke.
The seme's response was not 'abusive' in my opinion, he just didn't know and told the uke to leave if he can't do it. There is no forceing, no manipulation (unlike a lot of yaoi's out there).
Just because the seme isn't a mind reader doesn't mean he's a dickweed.
But he didn't say that out of the goodness of his heart or out of concern for his sub. First off, he's saying it's about the Puppy wanting or not wanting to obey him when he's obviously distressed, panicked, overwhelmed and crying, as if his emotional reaction is something he CHOSE to do. That is a red flag. The fact that he saw another human being in distress and overwhelmed and his first and foremost priority was to indirectly and manipulatively place the blame on the sub by implying he's CHOOSING to disobey is shitty. Period. He's not truly offering the sub a chance to walk away, he's trying to exert his control over Puppy by telling him he's on the top's last nerve and that the top is unhappy with his performance. Look at the top's expression, he's visibly pissed and you can't convince me otherwise.
Often, and I say this as a Dom and someone who's done BDSM for almost a decade, first as a sub and then as a Dom, people use BDSM as a way to deal with trauma and issues. Not always and not nearly everyone, but it's a common enough occurrence that any Dom who's had more than a couple of partners comes across reactions like that and should know how to deal with them. And the way to deal with them is not to guilt trip your sub for having an emotional reaction. Submitting yourself to the hands of another human being and giving them complete control makes one feel extremely vulnerable and sometimes, they get overwhelmed. When that happens the number one priority should be to de-escalate. Stop the scene, calm the situation, give them reassurance if they want it and make the sub feel safe. Then, you can start talking about whether you should continue the relationship. Hell, before I do a single scene with a person, I ask them if they're prone to emotional outbursts and if that happens, what they want me to do. Sometimes, I have subs telling me they sometimes start crying because they're overwhelmed but that they prefer if I keep going unless they safe word. Sometimes, they say they want to be treated firmly when they panic, maybe held down.
The fact the seme, while knowing Puppy is extremely shy and inexperienced, didn't as much as stop to ask if there's anything Puppy doesn't like or is triggering to him before setting a foot in the bedroom is another red flag. I know it's sadly common in RL BDSM circles, when I first started out there was a veteran member in my local kinky club who just _happened_ to be into CNC with noob women. The fact that they ~consented~ didn't mean they knew what they were getting themselves into and he eventually got arrested for sexual assault which surprised no one. Any sensible and responsible BDSM relationship, be it one scene, non-romantic or romantic long-term, starts with communication from _both sides_ to introduce kinks and boundaries. If it's just one scene, it doesn't have to be a five-hour negotiation, it can just be a brief rundown of kinks and NG on both sides before they get to it, but it's imperative both sides get a word in as for what they wish to ensue and what's off-limits.
In this story, the top has just brute-forced his way to control the situation and he has blatantly groomed Puppy throughout the story. Hell, the first thing he ever did to Puppy was made unsolicited advances. He took advantage of Puppy knowing he's inexperienced and shy, sprung an extremely oppressive contract on him with a "it's my way or the highway" -attitude while giving Puppy no room to voice his thoughts or negotiate, and then pushed Puppy too far. And Puppy, being inexperienced, eager to pleace and head over heels for the top, went along with it. Not because he truly knows what he's doing, but because he's in love and doesn't know any better.