its getting real hard to defend you bro. how u gon hear that someone is plotting against ur brother, w the intent of serious injury and possibly murder, and js not think abt it. like what. like not even a second thought, and then u confess ur love. like. IS THAT WHAT SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF UR MIND RN. IS THAT REALLY ALL U HAVE TO SAY. "oh looks like my brothers gonna get killed if he walks into the infirmary tent!!! *walks away and js doesnt do anything*" WHAT. hes gon be real surprised when mc doesnt condone those actions (if he finds out).
this comment makes it seem like this is the first chapter you read lmfao what? are you aware of where these crazy guys currently reside?
No, it's still hard to believe because they're both shitty people but you think that they're at least loyal to each other. Like we see that Jingi helped Heonjae get a lower sentence after cutting off his teacher's legs and getting in fights. We know that Jingi was genuinely trying to help Heonjae flirt with Myeonggi and giving him advice. Aside from their Aunt they are the only family they have. If Myeonggi was able to save Jingi from getting stabbed in ch 1 when he was a stranger and isn't related to them then why isn't Heonjae willing to protect and stand up for him when they're related by blood. Not going to spoil but you'll see in ch 65 how much Jingi cares about Heonjae and how he was actively trying to protect him so it's sad to see Heonjae not willing to do the same. Even gangsters somewhat stand by a bro code.
TELL THEMMMM , istg there’s no going back for heonjae he can’t and will never change, he’s a full grown adult do you know how hard it would be for his brain to actually come to terms with understanding that he has issues and he has to fix them, he’s not even fucking aware of it cuz he thinks what he’s doing is right as long as it makes him happy
i dont get what point youre tryna to make. did you have a bad day and now youre taking it out on me? poor you, i hope you get well soon !!!
Come through come through peach because the sermon is tea and not just ANY tea it’s that SOUTHERN SWEET TEA!
It's obvious heonjae is fucked in the head why r u guys surprised
Y'all should keep in mind that Heonjae definitely has a neurodevelopmental disorder like autism and other unresolved issues. His brother doesn't seem to be helping with his disability either since he doesn't encourage him to speak with people nor continue his hobbies like sports. If anything he treats Heonjae like a pet which only encourages his disorders to worsen. Saying there's no going back for him is somewhat ignorant and harsh... All he needs is to be shown love which he missed as a child along with excessive therapy.
When you say Jingi treats Heonjae like a pet do you mean he doesn't encourage him to talk to others or that he just gives him instructions and expects Heonjae to follow them. It is true that Jingi probably doesn't know how to handle someone that's neurodivergent but that's probably because one he never grew up knowing how to properly love and care for someone because he had a fucked up childhood too and two he's busy trying to protect his brother from issues that might make his autism worse. Jingi doesn't encourage Heonjae to talk to others because they're in prison and a lot of people in prison either want Jingi dead and might try to use Heonjae or want Heonjae dead as well, so making friends in prison probably isn't great. But I guess you're right that the least Jingi could do is acknowledge how good Heonjae is at his hobbies and give him words or encouragement.
Also Heonjae is more than just autistic. He got into prison all by himself with Jingi not really being involved, at least as far as we know. It is true that Jingi could talk to Heonjae more positively and acknowledge his good characteristics but there are plenty of autistic people that don't go around cutting off people's legs. Jingi could have only done so much to help him.
Righhtttt, this person seems to be excusing his actions as being ‘autistic’ and even somehow putting the blame on jingi??? For all we know heonjae not talking to ppl in prison might be for the best cuz every one there is a criminal and criminals don’t care about others so they wouldn’t have been as patient as myeongil was, and also look how heonjae treated the one person who showed him kindness
Jingi isn't a saint though. Heonjae needs someone to teach him about societal norms and Jingi is the one who has been doing it before the MC. Jingi even taught Heonjae that it's okay for friends to have sex and other fucked up shit he instructed him to do with other cellmates. He does this on purpose to have control over others just the way he started ordering the MC around too. I know that Heonjae was fucked up even before jail because of the way everyone neglected him, but Jingi definitely made him even worse. True, he's been protecting him but his approach is somewhat destructive.
Again blaming jingi for heonjae’s actions where in my comment did i say jingi was a ‘saint’, stop putting everything on jingi man. as we saw with the latest chapter heonjae knows what he’s doing and has free will, he’s shown it plenty of times doing as he pleases with mc and lately hasn’t been listening to jingi. How could jingi possibly have made a guy who cut someone’s leg off worse? if anything he’s been protecting him too much and spoiled him instead of actually telling him the things he’s done are bad, this why heonjae got balls and thinks he can do whatever he wants . But then again they’re both in prison for a reason so how could jingi be a normal reasonable person and guide heonjae
How did he make him worse? Maybe by teaching someone who doesn't have a sense of what's right and what's wrong that it's normal to rape and abuse people to the point of suicide. Their past cellmates were treated like absolute shit and if it wasn't for Jingi, none of it would have happened since he's the mastermind behind everything they do in jail
Now I’m js fucking confused, what are you trying to get at? What’s your point , heonjae was bad from the beginning if he was able to do the things he did who says he wouldn’t have done the other things without jingi’s influence? Didn’t he have the hots for his teach or sum?
the good ending (im grasping at straws here, bc i meed to delulu to cope with the, the ☹)
jingi and myeongi get rehabilitated together, being each ofhers support system (but in a healthy way where the dynamic is kinda like "we been through some shit together, we fought and made up then fought again and learned things the hard way. and theres some sexual tension between the two).
heonjae, learns to care for myeongis siblings and in turn learning empathy, how to care for others and himself, finds a job that works for him (prob some physical labor, he wouldnt do well in customer service) and grows and matures as a person.
i specify children because theyre very blunt, easier to read than passive aggressive adults. and their emotional needs are pretty straightforward (i feel liek heonjae would appreciate that). also because children are in need of protection, and heonjae has a really intense need to 'protect' (and thats being generous, hes prob closer to "they cant leave me because i have insane abandonment issues and only so little people get to know me and like me so i need to cling onto the ones that do stay around me or else ill die alone and ill be sad and ill do bad bad things." probably.) so it works well. and itll be a balancing act because children also need to go out into the world to learn and grow as people. they need their own autonomy and heonjae learning to respect that would be ideal. oh plus, children grow up fast and eventually that means theyll leave you because theyve grown and have their own goals and life to live. but they still love you all the same (and i think that sort of secure attachment would be good for heonjae. knowing that even though they may be moving on and they wont see each other as much, knowing that they still love him and care for him would do wonders on his healing journey)
caring for children is a challenging thing to do, but its definitely a learning experience (one that heonjae needs real bad) and can be rewarding watching them grow into their own little people
but if he pulls some stupid shir, detain his ass and throw him back into the cellular.
while the uncle is tied to a five ton brick and thrown into the han river. or somewhere else, i feel like just knowing hes in there would make me sick. maybe get a helicopter to fly his ass over to the middle of the ocean to become fish food. then maybe he could have a "positive" impact in the world as fish nutrition. bleh
screenshotting so I can cope later
real shit
thank god i came back at the end of the arc, i would have killed myself if i came back in the middle of an arc
wow!! its almost like relationships that stem from an unhealthy amount of dependency added on w a sick twisted piece of shit who really needs to get check and put on some meds and also be put in therapy because hes a genuine threat to the people around him - relationships like this would never end well. i would know.
anyway. hyeok really deserves better, im ngl that whole two years was js filled w all forms of abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse, physical abuse (that coincides w the sexual stuff). but when youre dependent on someone and you whole heartedly believe youre in love w them, its hard to hate them. because then you start to feel guilty for hating them (most likely a result of psychological abuse / taking away love when you dont perform well, love bombing at other times and js generally playing w his feelings)
also it fucking sucks because losing the person you were dependent on feels like dying, it feels like youre going to die. because theyre literally your only source of emotional support and literally everything else. but building up a support system separate from them and slowly building up your self of sense that isnt linked to them is great, works 70% of the time. the other 30% is prob because theyve come back to interfere with your life or you werent able to establish a strong enough support system that could meet your emotional needs and/or you rely on this person financially and youd basically be put outta a home if you defy them (which is worse cause scenario)
i js kept yapping and idk what point im tryna make. anyway, become dependent on someone then they becoming dependent on you is scary. honestly just take a whole bottle of pills together and overdose. you dont wake up to the absurdity of it all until something extreme happens or some event sparks a realization. otherwise, its all a painfully slow way of dying. ur soul / sense of self i mean, not literally dying but in some cases literally dying.
hyeok? you mean dajeong?
mb dude, im really bad w names
being all serious with your cock out is hilarious. and i have to remember that he shoots laser outta his peen. for a job. to protect the city.
if i die, great, he would get what he wanted so badly. just not in the way he wanted. if i survive
1. he gives a shit = maybe he'll learn to value me a little more
2. he doesnt give a shit = suicide second and final round!!! make sure we hit those arteries!!!
basically the only happy ending is if they both die.
trauma bonding perhaps? definitely trauma bonding. also the uke is fucked in the head, but like me too so i cant really tell u how much of this is normal in a relationship
mfw ive been doomed to seek out toxic relationships that recreate my past trauma / the unhealthy dynamics that have plagued me my whole life. HEALING IS HARD. TRY BEING CONDITIONED TO ASSOCIATE FEAR AND ANXIETY WITH LOVE. TELL ME WHAT THAT DOES TO THAT BRAIN OF URS, CUZ IT SURE FUCKED ME UP.
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this hits close to home, being in a relationship similar to the one presented in the story. im still grappling with whether or not it was 'love' (however now im sickened by just the words 'i love you' because they sound so insincere. like an excuse for what theyve done, but they tell me they cant live without me and i know for a fact that wasnt a lie.), and i hesitate to call it abuse because i too couldnt live enough him, i was dependent on him and i labelled that as love. im still trying to process everything so i dont have all the answers (and i fucking hate it. i wish i could just make sense of it all and move on. i dont want to think about him anymore and i dont want to feel that way anymore. it makes me feel so sad.)
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