Hajime looked like a Jojo character in that black vest. The gag is Joseph Joestar cross dresses too.
I feel like Sagawa wanted Hiyama to overcome the trauma of the situation, in order to move on and continue as an officer but Hiyama feared seeing the criminal, thinking he’d come back for him upon his release. If Hiyama went and visited the criminal he would have known that he was suffering with Dementia and thus wouldn’t recall Hiyama. With that knowledge Hiyama wouldn’t be living on the edge waiting for the day of the criminals release.
I sense that Sagawa can see the good in Hiyama which is why he points out that he’d never be a good detective but that good in him, makes him a good police officer and by resigning, he’s not living up to that potential. The world actually needs officers like Hiyama that go out of their way to help, even when their shift is over.
Sagawa is definitely an asshole though, don’t get me wrong.
I feel like the whole waiting would have been avoided if he had just told him, he basically left that man to his own problems without help. It's good to over come trauma, but look at how the seme was there for him, he wouldn't have been able to see him if bit for the support, the guy only made his trauma worse, I could understand of his words were just harsh or just honest, but he went out if his way to say he was disgusting/disgraceful, words he did not even need to say and things that are just not true, he wanted the uke to just get over it, but didn't want to take the actual steps to help a man who was in the dark, and when he finally had someone to support and help him see the light, he still was an asshole, the author wanted to cer up his assholery with some "but he means well" shit but it didn't work, they forgot the part where of a person means well, they don't go out of their way to make the person feel like they should never be forgiven, or feel that they are completely alone, that nit what tough love is, it's rubbing salt into an already infected wound.
Most definitely I agree. The way he went about it was wrong and badly executed but that’s his characters flaw, after all he is an asshole (with good intentions).
After reading the most recent chapter, even Okazaki recognises Sagawa’s help and Hiyama even thanked him. So although he might have rubbed salt in the wound, his persistence helped in its own way. Of course the biggest support goes to Okazaki for being there for Hiyama.
Not to be rude or nothin I genuinely don't know, but what help?
No that’s ohkay, it’s all down to opinion, this is my interpretation of what was presented after all. It’s the way he speaks to Hiyama, he suspected Hiyama of wanting to resign around the time the prisoner was due to be released and disagreed with his decision to resign (chapter 4 page 26-28).
When they meet at the prison, nearing the end of their exchange, Sagawa compliments (kinda quoted Okazaki) Hiyama on his character and role as an officer and then goes on to say that he’s disappointed that he’s going to throw it all away when he’s trusted by the people of his town and is generally a really good officer (chapter 7 page 14-15).
Although it wasn’t physical or even emotional help, Sagawa’s words turned something in Hiyama, it made him think about what he was going to give up. Alongside the support from Okazaki, Hiyama didn’t resign. In the extra Okazaki comments that he should thank Sagawa which he later does in the chapter although Hiyama says it’s all thanks to Okazaki (chapter 7.5 page 8-9).
I don’t think this gives off rapey vibes but there’s a really fine line. I feel like we’ve got to remember that Andy was extremely homophobic in the previous chapters and him saying that another mans dick is nasty and making snide remarks is due to that internalised homophobia.
He’s confused about his sexuality and went to the apartment with the intention of going the whole way. As we saw in this chapter he’s a pervert, he gets off on being dominated. The only time he really wanted to stop was because he thought they were going to get caught (he actually tried to fight Martin off) but once the coast was clear, he didn’t try to push him off again. There was a moment during the blow job scene where he scratched Martin but again he stopped after that so it’s a little confusing. I think he’s just confused and unsure.
das a whole lotta guesswork and jistification though,,, and whether or not it was due to his internalized homophobia, it still doesnt make it ok :(( kinda sounds like corective rape (but in reverse i guess since it's gay) in your explanation which isnt fun. i think power dynamics and bdsm-like play should be thoroughly discussed and even if ppl do not view this as rape its still not safe sex and is romanticizing non consensual touching which is not good. bdsm practitioners are very strict abt being safe, sane, and consenual, which this is not.
there isnt a fine line to rape and this is definitely rape. brown hair has not one said he wanted to go through with it but has, fought for blondie to stop, and showed hesitation. just bc there wasnt a direct no, doesn't mean it was a yes
Whether it’s cause of his internalized homophobia or not, never did he explicitly say yes this chapter. His confusion with his sexuality doesn’t mean the blond dude was allowed to coerce and force him into sexual acts.
if he says no, it’s a no. just because you know he is not honest about his feelings you can’t just go and force him to do something. if he chooses to be dishonest, that’s still a choice and the other guy has to respect it
That’s a fair point, I can agree with that.
Definitely, I agree. Martin (I believe his name is) should respect whether the other party wants to stop because consent can be withdrawn anytime during sex.
Andy’s character is so confusing to me though. I feel like he was going in between wanting it and not wanting it, a lot through the chapters. It’s almost as though he was having an internal battle then and there; one side is him saying he hates it whilst the other side wants it.
I agree, to be honest I actually hate Rape themes in manga which is why I’m surprised myself that I didn’t call it Rape.
It is a lot of guesswork because I can’t get inside Andy’s head to see what he’s actually thinking. All I can do is gather all the information presented thus far to try and figure out what he’s feeling. I don’t justify the way he was handled in these two most recent chapters, especially when he was told that Martin would be more gentle. Like I said there were times when he tried to fight Martin off but then stops, which is why I think he’s having an internal battle with himself. I just feel like Andy isn’t being one hundred percent honest when it comes to the way he feels about his sexuality and even men, sex however shouldn’t be the way he comes to terms with it.
Oh don’t get me wrong I’m not romanticising this situation whatsoever and if Andy was to fall for Martin, I’d be disappointed because almost all manga have that unrealistic trope where one party falls for the other party that has been abusive/cruel etc. In a perfect world Andy would come to terms with the way he feels about men and find love with someone that generally cares for him but unfortunately this is a manga/manhua and I have a feeling it’s definitely not going to go that way.
I agree, I reread it and he doesn’t say the words yes only “If you’re gonna do it, at least be gentle!!!”. That statement alone can count as both consent and no consent, I think it’s down to how the individual interprets it.
ikr Andy is acting like a child. I know that he is like that bc he is the so called “bratty tsundere uke” but still it’s kinda annoying
Really annoying lmao
I absolutely loved the art style. I feel like I hardly ever see the Adam’s apple drawn in manga and it just added that extra sprinkle of perfection.
Also Mitsuru’s body type and the way he dressed 5 stars.
Lastly, I liked the way Anna’s hair was wild whenever he was fighting or having sex. It’s like Mitsuru (and us readers) were seeing a different side to his usual well kept appearance, like he was removing his mask.
My spider senses are tingling and they are telling me that when Hiro goes to the apartment/house, he’s going to find out that Kajima is the author.
I just hope he responds well and doesn’t get all upset because it’s not like Kajima lied, he just told... half truths.
I love the oneshot so much that I’ve reread it many times. I’m glad I decided to reread it again because if I hadn’t, I wouldn’t have discovered this adaptation.
I’m so happy that we get to see Aoi and Hachi again.
I have mixed feelings about the last few chapters.
Part of me wants to say Chanwoo deserved this, he rejects MD but still expects to maintain their sexual relationship whilst searching for a new boyfriend. Any fool can see that MD’s feelings run deep for Chanwoo, deep enough that he’s willing to start an actual relationship with his sub so that he can protect him from abusive partners and yet just to make Chanwoo realise this, MD turned into the very thing he wants to protect him from.
The other part of me felt bad for him. Chanwoo using a safe word in order for things to truly stop, was a testament of how much he can really take. He’s stubborn, hard headed and has created a mental protective shell but something inside of him broke that day. MD mentally and emotionally abused him and no one deserves that. I want Chanwoo to walk away at least until they both reflect but I just sense he’s going to succumb to MD.
I’ve been researching DID and it’s said that the majority of the causes stem from childhood abuse (sexual or physical) and it got me thinking, what if Shikiori was abused as a child. In chapter three, when we first discover the child alter, he shouts “don’t hit me” when Yuuma touches him. Then in chapter five, Shikiori didn’t want to go home and Yuuma found him playing with a sad look on his face. So something must be going on at home, for him to not want to go back.
I believe Young Yuuma saved him but the reason Yuuma can’t remember much of the past is because he was hurt as a result of stepping in. Remember those opening pages with Yuuma saving the young boy, I just feel like Yuuma has a strong sense of justice, even as a child. Maybe the DID started because Shikiori felt guilty, Yuuma stepped in to help him and ended up getting hurt. That could explain the appearance of the alters and his fixation on Yuuma.
Or he could just be happy that Yuuma paid attention to him in the park that day. Yuuma was a light in the darkness that he never forgot and he has loved him ever since.
DID is caused by severe or repeated trauma between the age of 7-9.
MAYBE Kazuha (I'll just call them Kazuha for now cuz it's easier to explain it this way..) was abused by his parents, but what's for sure is THAT he was abused. And that was the cause for his alters to appear. Remember, Yuuma said that Kazuha sometimes acted differently when he was a child. So Kazuha already had DID when they first met.
And about Yuuma... Something must've happened to him back then. Atm we don't know what it was, but it had to be traumatising enough that he just forgot about it. His brother (that older black haired guy (idk I really thought he's Yuuma's brother..)) also said that something happened and Yuuma was so scared when they found him that he lost his memories.
I'm really curious to know what happened back then.
And I'm really sorry if I just misunderstood your comment, but Itsuki (the child alter) is NOT the same person as Kazuha. He's a entirely different person that might just hold some of Kazuha's old memories.
That’s a good point. I still feel like the DID wasn't fully present when he was younger but it was definitely developing, showing itself in the sudden mood changes in young Shikiori.
Itsuki (the child alter) could be a representation of the fear Shikiori experienced as a child and so manifested as an alter. When Yuuma brought the female alter that drink she was in a way at peace and was able to integrate so maybe Yuuma will have to figure out a solution for Itsuki to overcome the trauma and integrate. That could be the key to this all.
That's not really how it works... But I don't have DID so I'm also not an expert.
If you're really interested in DID look up the Youtuber dissociaDID. They have DID and make really good and informative videos in which they also try to clarify all the prejudices around this disease. ( ◜‿◝ )♡
Oh yeah, it’s definitely not how DID works but going based on what the mangaka has done in previous chapters with the integration of the alters, I’m trying to theorise what might happen.
DID is deffo something I’m interested in, I’ve seen DID interpreted in many different ways (the film Split is one example). I will definitely check out the youtuber for a more factual approach rather than a slightly fictional approach like this manga, although I do applaud the mangaka for using some facts as dramatised as it is.
Thank you (⌒▽⌒)
Does anyone else think this is going a little fast? Yuuma is finally starting to get an understanding of DID and all of the six alters and yet he’s given such an ultimatum when he still doesn’t know much about Rei or Kazuha.
Part of me feels like he’s going to choose Kazuha because he’s on the cover and I believe the first alter we meet but then there’s just something between Yuuma and Rei.
It would have been nice to see the other personalities explored more but other than that, it’s really interesting. Looking forward to seeing how it ends (*˘︶˘*)
I feel Kazuha is overreacting, which I guess its understandableknowingwhere hes coming from , but like REI said no alter actually disappeared from the system they just integrate together. I predict it will end with kazuha and REI integrating to become a new alter
That’s a good prediction.
Going on from what you’ve said, I feel like when all of the alters integrate different elements of their personalities will remain; the caring side, the feminine side, the angry side etc and that final personality will be Shikiori. Kazuha and Rei will never truly disappear, they’ll just become one.
It’s been a few days since I read the final chapter and I still can’t believe it’s over already. I’m not saying I’m ungrateful because the story was good, I just feel empty, like the meal was unsatisfying.
Firstly, I feel like we hardly saw Evan use his power which is essentially the plot. It would have been really cool to actually see him have his future seeing moments more often rather than hearing him say that he saw it happen (as we saw in later chapters).
Secondly, introducing a second couple in that short amount of time took away from building and developing the main couple (don’t get me wrong I like the dynamics between Martin and Andy).
This definitely could have used more chapters to really build on Chris overcoming his past trauma and the trust built between him and Evan to be able to even get back into those sexual practices, as well as showing that Andy accepts his sexuality and feelings for Martin. It just seemed rushed that suddenly Andy liked him when it was clear he despised him. Maybe having a flashback of the moment where he began to be hateful towards same sex couples, just so we can learn a little more about his character and see why he’s so reluctant to accept his own sexuality.
go off. u said it perfectly
Thank you (◕ω◕✿)