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I want to know as well.

Me too other than hero killer

White blood is also a good one <3

And also Im a Martial Art Villainess but I'm the Strongest is a good one

White Blood is one of my all time faves I really love it, thank you
Though I was seeking for some alternative universe with “ranks and monsters” kinda setting, like this one. Gotta search for more

Don’t know why my keyboard switched it in caps lock, I meant to say “webtoon”

Plus he’s really indecisive and manipulative and I don’t really like it; both MCs are a big no for me
At first I liked the manhwa because of the plot, but it’s like seeing a child’s play rn and it feels more like they are dependent on each other rather than in love

She's upset bc she overheard him talking to the princess abt proposing to her. It's framed so that the princess says (although she wants them to marry for political support) he needs to wait or else she will get suspicious or wtv. In Ch. 31 he basically realizes that he didn't even consider her feelings before he decided he wanted to marry her. He tells her it's misunderstanding, but now SHE'S upset that he didn't even consider whether or not she wanted to marry him before he told the princess. Essentially, she would be more or less tied to a marriage he hadn't even discussed with her. In fact, these two don't even really have a relationship at all, as he didn't want to label it. I mean you go from rejecting someone for 7 yrs to being super affectionate and deciding you want to marry them in like a month lol....

So she misunderstood at first because she believed he wanted to get married to someone else?

No FL misunderstood bc she thought the princess was telling ML he should date and marry the FL because it will be better for the kingdom, not because he likes her. she thought he was taking advantage of her well known affection for him & basically faking his affection for her.

That's why I'm confused, she proposed to him, so why wouldn't he think that she wanted to marry him. I get that he did turn her down at one point, but he has been showing and telling her how he feels. Tbh this is all the Princess fault, sometimes you gotta mind your business and let ppl make their own decisions instead of inserting your own agenda into things. They were doing just fine without her ass saying "Oh this would be good for me."

That’s why I said in another comment that she gives me the ick, like he’s indecisive toxic and all but you too are acting like him now

Exactly. It's almost she's wanted him, till she had him, you get what I'm saying. Like she liked him till he reciprocated her feelings.

To me it seems more like she’s nagging because she got used to them not having anything serious
I agree with her to a point since his actions are confusing, but since she wanted that marriage from the beginning I really don’t understand why she’s complaining now that he said he has affection for her and wants to marry her

What do you want to know?

What happens after he actually finds out and her reaction to it

Spoiler alert
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He realized that's she's his wife, but she denied. He make scenarios to see if she acts like his wife, he's s 99% sure, specially because of the "taste" of her guiding, but still he wants her to admit it.
It takes a while for her to do that and in the moment he call her "my wife" she points out that he is her ex-husband because they already died in the other world.
She knows now thanks to her family what love is and she don't wants to feel the same way she did when they were together.
I don't want to spoil everything, but if you still want me to explain why he acted the way he did and why she rejected him,I can do that just let me know (=・ω・=)

moreee spollierss plss. go on

he breaks into her room through the window at night and confronts her about being seohyun she denies it like bluelily said but he doesn’t give up, and stays at the closhe manor for maybe a month or so longer to basically stalk her. tries to get in her good side but she just brushes him off even when her heart flutters. the part of the novel i read up to is when finally ciel is called back to the capital since the saintess is suspicious as to why he hasn’t gone to her for guiding yet

Plssss tell us more !!!

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Ok so here it goes:
Its a little difficult to trying to explain everything but is basically divided in 3 parts:
1. The world in the novel when seo-hyeon (I'll refer at her as Irene) doesn't appear in this world and seo-yoon (the saintess) gives guidance to Ciel and the Crown prince.
2. The "real world" where seo-hyeon grows as a orphan and later on meet Ciel and get married.
3. The novel world where seo-hyeon became Irene and Ciel get back in time.

Ciel belongs to the world in the novel, in the first part Seo-yoon appears in this world, is named "Saintess" bacause of that and is the only person in this hole world that can give guidance to the espers, in this time line she gives Ciel and the crown prince guidance. Ciel mentions one time that espers are really possessive with the guides, not because of love but survival instinct. So even though Ciel and the Crown prince are best friends, they start having problems because both of them want to have her. (Seo-yoon loves this).

Irene knows this story in the "real world" because Seo-yoon give hers a book with the story, in this book she gives Ciel close guidance (if you know what I mean), the purpose to her to do this is to convince Irene that her and Ciel suppose to be a couple and that she needs to give up Ciel.

Later on Irene discovers more information but in this time line Irene is convinced that Ciel loves Seo-yoon and that she is in the middle of that. She is more sure about it because Ciel is super cold towards her. Never shows love or affection, only when he needs guidance.

Ciel appears in the "real world" following the saintess, she wants them to be imprinted (to controll him) but they don't have enough matching percentage to do this. Irene appears and just by luck have 99% match with Ciel so the goverment pair them together (not imprinted them).

This is all Irene knows before dying, when she posses Irene body she discovers that Ciel went to the "real world" not because he is in love of the saintess, but because she have been disappearing too much in the novel and the Emperor orders him to follow her and investigate what is happening. He is worried because she is the only one that can give guidance to her son the Ceown prince.
All of this is a tramp made for the saintess to force the imprinting with Ciel, he is a very powerful esper and the government wants to controll him, is just a moment of luck that they can't be paired, she hates Irene for taking him away from her.

Seo-yoon lies to Ciel, telling him that he can't get back to his world, only if he helps the goverment with certain tasks and time. That's why Ciel always take the more dangerous tasks. He is cold towards Irene bacause he thinks Irene is part of all this, he thinks she works with the goverment to have him "imprisioned" not letting him get back to his world. Later on he discovered that is not like that and he actually loves Irene, but he is scared that the government or Seo-yoon could hurt Irene or using her to controll him more, so he pretends that he doesn't love her. That's why he only want her to be by his side and then ignore her.

When Irene wakes up in the novel world she discovered what love is because of her family. She doesn't want Ciel back because she don't want to suffer anymore. She want to fall in love and get married with someone like her dad, that is head over heals for her mom. This is the reason she denied to Ciel that she is his wife. In her mind that's no longer true.

Ciels love her so much that he is willing to conquer her heart once again and discover is not an easy task, he never knew how much he hurt her, and he didn't knew that she wasn't aware that he loves her.

In the novel world Ciel talk with the hight priest and discovered that Seo-yoon is a fake saintess, she was rank C when entered this world and became rank S after she gives guidance to him and the Crown prince. In this time she is annoyed by the fact that Ciel shows no interest in her.
Irene is the true saintess and help discovers more espers and guides, of course she don't want to anyone discover she is the real saintess or they will separate her from her family.

In resume seo-yoon is a total bi#!##ch.

In the part of the novel I'm in Irene still doesn't accept Ciel back. She told him that she's going to marry to the person her family approves. I think is really necessary to Ciel to really prove his love to her. She have a lot of sad stories that explain all the pain she get through in their marriage so I understand why she don't want him back. She still worries for him and gives guidance, she doesn't want to admit her feelings for him, she thinks is only because of her past memory.

Also Ciel discovers that he is imprinted with Irene (that's why he goes to the high priest and discovered she is the real saintess), this means that he can only receive guidance from her, but he hasn't reveal this to her yet

I don't know of I explain myself correctly for all the time jumps, but if you have any questions just let me know (=・ω・=)

Ty sm!!! ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~ doing gods work fr

bro literally im so glad someone else thinks this, bc that was barely anything to other ml and lets be honest anyone in that situation having to choose between their lover and unborn child would struggle but it was early within the pregnancy so choosing the lover would be the go to choice just bc if she doesnt make it he looses his lover and child

same everyone is cheering but i honestly feel bad

This is how I feel. That’s why I asked would she had died if he didn’t. It the baby was never going to make it to being born what choice did he have? I feel bad for him sorry not sorry. I hope this longing ends soon （￣へ￣）

I really thought I was the crazy one for not hating him, so I’m really glad
In yaois the characters are like the shittiest people ever, they even r4pe and cage their lovers and everyone apologises them just because they’re handsome, but now that we have a well-developed, complex and morally gray ML in a heterosexual manhwa everyone is complaining, as if there weren’t even worse characters, and as if he had used, tortur3d and violated her like the others out there

Exactly, this chapter was so painful to read
I know she had her reasons to leave, but I can’t fully support her after everything they went through and after the pain he’s suffering
I can’t even imagine the double betrayal he’s going to feel when he discovers it was all a jest, a made up accident for her to flee

no fr like he only has two bad things and they arent even that bad one can just be seen as manipulative (and yeah i get being upset about the fact he approached her with ulterior motives in the beginning but he fell in love with her at the end so its a win at the end of the day) and the other was just logical, like she wasnt to full term with the pregnancy it hadnt been too long since they learned about the pregnancy when that happens

literally, like idk i feel like thats worse than what he did just bc i couldnt imagine forgiving my lover if they did that to me i wouldnt be able to see them in the same light

I’d be devastated, and especially since he thought about killing himself because of her, I already know I’ll get extremely annoyed when the truth will come out

He need this to learn something tho. Also, just because he finally love her doesn't erase the gaslighting ang manipulation he did before.

"He starts getting to her sefl esteem, making sure to lower it every changes he gets, using her disability as an excuse. He thinks every women loves him and cant wait to take him to bed. He humiliates her in a ballroom full of people. He tells her that she cant run from a rape with a leg like that. He takes her cane and forces her to walk with him. He threatens her to tell her secret. He gets mad she didnt give him a prize for keeping his month. He forces her to come hunting and makes her tremble in fear. He makes an insinuation he wants a marriage with her but proposes to her sister. He forces a kiss. He tells her he hopes her bad leg doesnt affect her uterus."

This is from another commenter.

He deserves this and he also need this for his character development.

Karma's a bitch I'd say.

This was before tho, after their love arc their relationship changed and he himself acted differently
He lied and acted as a shitty man before and after for sure by lying and manipulating her, but his intentions changed - if he only wanted her as a prize because of his pride at the beginning, after he wanted her close to him because of his twisted way of loving and because he obviously didn’t know how to show (and keep) his love otherwise
It was deserved for sure but not like this I think

He won't change his ways if this didn't happen. He loves her but he'll still continue to manipulate her to make sure she's stuck by his side. Do you think he changed his ways just because he loves her. He will even think of more ways to make her stay by his side in an unhealthy way. For ref, when she demanded a divorce, he locked her up in the house. Let's be real, he needed this dramatic lesson to change because he's a stuck up man. Intentions alone can't support a relationship. There's no trust between them even though they love each other. He needs to know that the FL can leave his sorry ass one way or another if he didn't change.