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I like this kind of story where the main character is not the original main character. Is there any other stories like this aside from orv?

I am so glad they didn't skip Beru and JInwoo's friendship part here. BUT did they just skip Jinwoo's date at the amusement park? or does that come after?

Okay but like,, Barou has a point with that "boring" comment about Isagi's plays so far. I think it could be due to the fact that although he has the ego and drive to score and win, there's just a certain smth that Isagi's lacking compared to the previous matches he has played in Blue Lock. And although Blue Lock's members are showing off their individual skills, imo they haven't really been that independent in scoring so far and are, in a way, kinda playing mostly as a "team" which in essence is different to how they initially played in Blue Lock (which was by scoring and winning individually but at the same time forming chemical reactions with others). I suppose a valid reason for that could be the difference being that now, they're not only facing the genius Itoshi Sae and the 'monster' Shidou, but also they're playing against a U-20 team that has players that actually play defensively compared to when they played in Blue Lock where everyone mostly focused on offense and scoring higher.

Anyhow, I really missed Isagi-Nagi-Barou-Chigiri tandem. Lowkey hoped that the four of them could play together again in this game, so I'm a bit sad that Chigiri's already been substituted when Barou finally got in. :((( Welp. Hurry up, Isagiii~~ I wanna see you say "Shut up, Genius. I'm on a roll." again or atleast give us some really intense puzzle pieces!! I'm getting really anxious and excited. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

What chapter was it when a girl killed herself and the kids and the girl thought that the foreigner guy wrote "shine" that meant die in japanese but the guy meant shine kn English?

Am just noticing..why is everyone hunting for isagi? He gots a whole harem

So, I've seen a lot of comments of how confused you guys are and I am here to give you a (hopefully) understandable explanation of what is going on.

At the end of the Shibuya-Arc, Kenjaku (the brain/Fake-Geto) used Mahito's Idle transfiguration on two types of Jujutsu sorcerers to adjust their brains for sorcery: People who ingested Cursed Objects (like Yuji) got strength as vessels and people with Cursed Techniques whose brains were meant to be Non-sorcerers (like Junpei) got the ability to use Cursed Techniques. Adding to that he broke the seal on Cursed Objects, some of them already over a thousand years old (Kurusu Hana, the angel-person, is one of them if I'm not mistaken, because they are over a thousand years old). Kenjaku is now planning on making these three types of people fight each other in the culling game, to deepen their understanding of cursed energy and finally merge them with Tengen to create a new kind of jujutsu sorcerer, an evolved human.

Now on to the culling game, which is probably the most confusing part for you guys: Kenjaku (and most likely other sorcerers/curse users form the old times) created 10 colonies all over Japan. These colonies are used as a preparation to turn the people in Japan into curses to merge with Tengen (I'll address this point later).
There are 8 rules in the culling game, all dependent on each other. I'm going to list all of them in one go, because I think it's easier to make sense of them if there isn't text in between them.
1. After awakening a cursed technique, players must declare their participation in the culling game at a colony of their choice within 19 days.
2. Any swimmer who breaks the previous rule shall be subject to curse technique removal (this is just a nice way of saying to kill the swimmer)
3. Non-players who enter the colonies become players at the moment of entry and shall be considered to have declared participation in the Culling Game.
4. Players score points by ending the life of other players.
5. Points are determined by the game master and indicate the value of a player's life. In principle (as a general rule), sorcerers are worth 5 points and non-sorcerers are worth 1 point.
6. Excluding the point value of a player's own life, players may expend 100 points to negotiate with the game master to add one new rule to the culling game.
7. In accordance with the previous rule, the game master must accept any proposed new rule unless it has a marked and long-lasting effect on the culling game.
8. If a player's score remains the same for 19 days, that player shall be subject to cursed technique removal.

So in short, Itadori, Megumi, Yuta, Maki and Panda (I don't know about the others, and Nobara's status is still unknown - Whyyyyy Gege, Whyyyy??) will have to join the culling game and score 100 points so they can add a rule to the already existing rules. The reason is because they want to save Tsumiki, Megumis sister.
Another reason why they must join the culling game is to get in contact with Kurusu Hana, the only person who is capable of terminating all techniques. If Yuji & Co. manage to get them on their side, Kurusu can terminate the technique keeping Gojo inside the cube (Though we don't know who this Kurusu Hana person is and on whose side they are. We'll see in the next chapters how it'll turn out)
We are still going to see what kind of solution Megumi has so they can earn points by not killing people, but from what has happened so far in the manga, I am pretty sure that somebody has to kill or will be killed.

Now what happens if humans are merged with Tengen. First the basics: Because there isn't enough cursed energy to use Idle Transfiguration on every Japanese person to transform them into a sorcerer, Kenjaku is trying to achieve the wanted evolution by merging the humans with Kenjaku. By merging them, the humans surpass the normal definition of a sorcerer. They exist but also don't exist, which leads to a new form of existence. These evolved humans lack the boundary of an individual and if one of those evolved humans go out of control it'll be the end of the world / the Shibuya-Incident will repeat itself all over the world.
Another huge problem is the fact that Tengen is susceptible to curse spirit manipulation, which means that Kenjaku will absorb him immediately upon contact. This is the reason why Tengen wants/needs guards (Yuki and Choso in this case). Everything will be over for the sorcerers if Tengen and his barrier disappear.


I also recommend binge reading from chapter 135 onward until the current chapter. It'll help a lot
Hope this was to some point understandable and you get the story a little better ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
I am open for any improvements and constructive criticism as well as corrections in case I got something wrong.

It will never ever make sense to me ppl's fixation of painting Joowon as "the bad guy" in Joohae's relationship, when its not what LOH depicts AT ALL. "In hindsight, everyone is a perpetrator and victim” —Joowon, Chapter 2 // This quote right here has to be the most DEFINING quote for these two, and I wanted to write an essay about it (yes it's a literal ESSAY IM SORRY).

When the story starts, we see Haesoo feeling hurt, claiming Joowon doesnt care about them and projecting him in a bad light + we see JW's attitude & his *possessiveness*... But we quickly learn that Joowon acts that way because Haesoo manipulates his emotions. Haesoo says its the "relationship I manipulated because I craved an obsessive love”, and he "builds walls, so Joowon can tear them down”. Meanwhile Joowon is also in the wrong as he's immature, impulsive & acts on ALL of Haesoo’s provocations. They inflict these actions on each other because they're BOTH insecure about their r/s. Because defining a relationship usually gives parties a sense of security... so what happens in an UNDEFINED dynamic where they can’t officially be "lovers", and can’t voice their true feelings either?? Well: there's no security in the relationship. That’s why Joowon and Haesoo keep up this push/pull tactic. It's the only way they can affirm they're “each other’s”. The fact that Joowon only acts within the confines of their jealousy games/Haesoo's manipulation, is proven further when they break up: HS narrates, "the game is over", and we see Joowon actually give Haesoo SPACE cause he knows his boundaries and where the lines are drawn. He still clearly loves Haesoo though, so he tries to protect him in the background (eg: when leo told him shady stuff abt taku, the bullying scandal, etc.)

Now that leads to the question: why did Joohae stay in this sort of hurtful open relationship for so long, if they love each other?? Well in short: its cause of their PARENTS.
Haesoo’s reason for not wanting to define the relationship: he fears that he’ll lose his mom if he makes things serious with Joowon. His mom spent ages guilt tripping him for her divorce + tells him she can’t love him if he loves Joowon. The guilt Haesoo feels isn't JUST towards his mom though. It's towards Joowon too. Haesoo constantly projects Joowon's life as "perfect" and feels so inferior at the success of JW's career. So he thinks he's the "only one suffering" (hence painting JW as the asshole who doesnt care). He also seems to see himself as a hindrance to Joowon & thinks JW will be much happier with a marriage, kids, etc. And Haesoo's thoughts AREN'T really Joowon's fault. Joowon never said he wanted a "normal" life, or tried to make HS feel like a burden. He always called Haesoo, told him he missed him, tried to spend all his free time w him despite his busy work. So I think most of HS's insecurities stem from his mom acting like he doesnt deserve her love, and his mom making him think he's a burden ("Am I that much of a hindrance to you?"). It clearly left Haesoo emotionally broken.

Now... Joowon's reason for not wanting to define the relationship: It started, after Joohae were caught as teens and JW was hit with a harsh reality. He got slapped by HS's mom and Haesoo even said: "I’m scared of my feelings for you”. It made Joowon think Haesoo can’t handle their relationship getting serious. JW felt driven into a corner, so he said, “Don’t fall for me and I won’t fall for you”. This is Joowon's foolish attempt to PROTECT them from being separated. He wanted to frame their r/s as “nothing serious, we’re just fooling around” to make things less complicated. He was also trying to protect Haesoo, knowing he can’t make Haesoo lose his mom. Joowon's dad deeply affects his actions too. After the highschool fight issue, he tells Joowon that Haesoo is gonna abandon him, and he shouldn’t start things he'll fail. Joowon takes this to heart after the divorce, where the mom makes Haesoo leave without even telling Joowon. Ofc he now thinks he’s been “abandoned” cause things got too serious for Haesoo, and that everything his father said was TRUE. His father gaslights him for years that Haesoo will abandon him. So Joowon literally thinks the ONLY WAY Haesoo will be with him, is through this ambiguous relationship.

Now. Consider both perspectives: Joowon never insisted that he wanted an official r/s because he thinks Haesoo will drop him otherwise. And Haesoo never insisted on what he truly wanted either (an official r/s! the same thing! WOW~ lmao) because the guilt he felt towards his mother overtook all of that. They willingly chose this, and the ambiguity of their relationship hurts BOTH of them, but they endure it cause they love each other and they wanted to stay together no matter what. Haesoo confirms it when he says "It’s painful because we know we can’t have it, that’s why we kept it ambiguous for 10 years”. Haesoo kept going back to Joowon for years. That’s what made Joowon arrogant and had him thinking, “Haesoo is fine with this. Haesoo can’t live without me. I knew he'd never leave me if we keep our relationship ambiguous”, and Haesoo never communicated otherwise. The remarriage suddenly made all of HS's fears abt losing his mom too real: hence why he walks out first, leaving Joowon to rethink EVERYTHING about what Haesoo truly wanted.

So in the end: who's the victim, and who's the perpetrator? You could say both... or NEITHER. At the end of the day, Haesoo and Joowon were just 2 people who loved each other since they were teenagers, but could never communicate it for their own reasons. They BOTH willingly got into these roles of an ambiguous relationship and kept up unhealthy cycles of jealousy. And they did it to be with e/o without having to be honest about their feelings, or face the consequences of their relationship. Through distance and time spent apart: they realized they feared never telling eo their true feelings FAR MORE, than whatever they could lose as a result of their love. That’s why in the end Haesoo asks Joowon if he regrets their relationship due to Joowon’s career and dad and everything... Haesoo was always worried about that: that if they chose each other, they'd come to resent each other for their losses (he says it in their breakup). But Joowon being the ride or die man he is, says he regrets nothing & he doesnt care about that as long as he’s with Haesoo. These two possibly have the most conflicting relationship I’ve read in a while— but they way they make realizations, develop, and change their mindset all so realistically to reach the conclusion they do is quite beautiful to me <33

Now we know the end game, spoiler.
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JooHae is the endgame, Haesoo Confesses.

Taku only first took interest in Haesoo because of his relationship with Joowon and thought it was interesting. Even in his photoshoot with Haesoo he makes Haesoo think of Joowon in order to get the emotion on camera.
Taku manipulated Haesoo from the very beginning of their relationship with the use of his sex tape, trying to make Haesoo write about it and in turn feel guilty to try and make Haesoo choose him.
Taku again emotionally manipulated Haesoo into a relationship he clearly was not ready for after Haesoo explicitly told him he was not ready for a relationship.
Taku has been outwardly antagonistic towards Joowon even when Joowon knew nothing about Taku's relationship with Haesoo. Even in a professional setting during Taku's photoshoot with Joowon Taku is trying to provoke Joowon.
I'm sure there are even more than this but this is just a list off the top of my head.

Its not that I just don't like Taku, he frustrates me because his intentions and motives throughout the story have not been pure or innocent. His role in this story is to be a shit stirrer. He has been malicious and manipulative with Haesoo and Joowon in order to achieve his ends which makes him an interesting character but not a good person. Now that he has developed some genuine feelings for Haesoo he is so desperate to hold onto Haesoo that he doesnt really care about Haesoo's feelings. He seems to think that if he can just hold onto Haesoo long enough all the past issues and feelings will just disappear, when it doesn't work like that.

And now that Taku does have feelings for Haesoo he tries to act like an innocent angel when he's actually the one responsible for the issues that he and Haesoo are facing.
From the very beginning to me it was obvious that Taku was not telling the truth about his motives, and then when we did find out his true motive he acted like it was all ok since he actually cared about Haesoo now. I'm just not down for that. While other characters certainly have their flaws, Taku was the only one who was malicious when unprovoked. He did things with the sole purpose of hurting people and I don't like people like that.

And he has had no redemption for his bad behavior. In fact, he doubled down on it and justified himself by saying "this is how I like you in my own selfish way" like great, so you get to be an asshole and im just supposed to forgive/overlook everything you've done cuz you care now? uh no, im not here for forgiving people who aren't sorry

Tbh I don't understand the whole outrage towards Joowon because in comparison to most popular MLs out there he was pretty human (although flawed) guy.
What's more we see season 1 mostly through Haesoo's pov which is also an important factor.

Let's not forget that both of them hurt each other.
Of course we can't overlook Joowon's flaws and mistakes, he admitted to them himself but his character's development is well written. He is realising his faults and he is regretting them.

He is not the same person he has been in the past although once again I don't agree he was simplistic abuser and monster as many try to describe him. But he definitely had his flaws.

If they entered the relationship in the future, he and Haesoo are not the same people. Haesoo also started reflecting on their relationship and his own faults.

The important factor and most obvious one is the fact that they still love each other and although they faced many obstacles their feelings have never changed.
But their relationship needed the change.


Taku has also his own flaws. He is not a perfect prince. And he knows that himself. He admitted that his feelings are selfish and he kinda pushed the relationship on Haesoo when he was in fragile state (and who said he was not ready and that he needed more time).
It looks like their relationship is more or less one sided.

And let's not start on "incest thing" because for me it's the most illogical argument ever. Especially after 90+ chapters.
- they met when they were 15/16 for the first time
- they didn't grow up together, no psychological brotherly bond
- they were family for not such a long period
- their parents divorced about 7 years ago
- and said parents most likely won't remarry after Ch. 86.

A lot of people don’t talk about this a lot because the story doesn’t highlight, but can we take a second to think about the fact that Haesoo has been in love with the same guy for a majority of his adolescence and adulthood? The connection between him and Joowon goes so deep. Haesoo is utterly transfixed by Joowon but since Haesoo has a prickly personality, as he doesn’t like looking weak, people overlook it.

Joowon was literally everything to him. They opened so many doors together and Haesoo was extremely influenced by Joowon’s presence and words. He did things just to get a rise out of Joowon because he so badly wanted Joowon’s attention. He took a very toxic approach just to have Joowon’s eyes on him, by smoking with other guys in HS and making Joowon jealous, which developed into adult Haesoo sleeping around to fill the empty space Joowon would leave behind.

If it wasn’t for Joowon’s encouragement, he would have never pursued his writing career. Joowon is really a Hyung( social status wise, not sibling wise) that he really looks up to and cares for. He admires Joowon’s seemingly high self esteem and straightforward approach towards his goals and dreams.

And whenever Joowon calls him, Haesoo always appears no matter what type of attitude he puts on, he’s always there for Joowon. He won’t admit it but he wants to be around Joowon too.

I think Haesoo struggles a lot because he has low self worth and an inferiority complex. On one hand he loves Joowon a lot and has been influenced by him for a significant portion of his life, but he doesn’t want Joowon to know just how much power he has over Haesoo. Haesoo himself can’t reconcile why he holds Joowon so high, why he would let someone have so much power over him and his emotions. So much so that in 10 years he has been unable to maintain any functioning romantic relationship because he’s so in love with Joowon.

He masks and alleviates the anxiety by lashing out at Joowon, putting him down at times and generally wanting himself and Joowon to believe that Haesoo doesn’t feel as a strongly as he does. That he’s not trapped in this and unwilling to truly let go. That he doesn’t want someone “better” that he just wants a Joowon who isn’t afraid to admit that he loves Haesoo as much as Haesoo loves him. That Joowon fell for Haesoo just as hard and deep as Haesoo fell for him.

Why are people so mad that two people who’ve loved each other for 10 years have finally come to a place where they’ve healed/are healing the issues that hurt them and kept them apart.

Taku isn’t getting a raw deal. His storyline is developing too, y’all just refuse to actually read canon and choose instead to believe your own interpretations. From the very beginning, it’s always been a love affair between Haesoo and Joowon. All 3 parties know this, and Taku interjected himself KNOWING that his pseudo relationship with Haesoo was not INITIALLY based on love or genuine care. It was mere curiosity and attraction, a distraction for the both of them. Somewhere along the way, he finally started feeling something he’s never felt before. His character development is that he’s no longer going to treat romantic interests or love so lightly. Taku was arrogant and believed himself above the vulnerability that love draws out of us. He’s been humbled and now he’s capable of truly loving someone.

Honestly, I feel sorry for Haesoo. He’s been holding in the pain and torture of being rejected by his first love yet still engaging in a dysfunctional sexual/romantic relationship with him for T E N Y E A R S. I don’t know if any of you have ever actually loved someone and been in a dysfunctional relationship but that shit is no walk in the park. It’s emotionally and mentally destructive and changes who you are as a person. Mostly it alters how you value yourself. Haesoo loves himself the least out of all 3 characters. He just wallows in this misery and refuses to really move on because he doesn’t feel worthy of love. That rejection really scarred him more than he lets on. His attitude is just a defense mechanism because he doesn’t want Joowon to see just how much power he has over him.

His happiness and peace of mind has been so contingent on validating this strange thing between him and Joowon. It’s no wonder he’s so irritable and spiteful. He has built up so much resentment over the years and has had no real outlet to express himself. His writing career is stalled, his relationship with his mother is strained because if his relationship with Joowon, he and Joowon avoid the truth just so they can stay in each other’s lives, and his relationship with Taku reminds him too much of what he yearns for with Joowon. He’s so alone. I used to not be so sympathetic of Haesoo, but I see now that he’s been the only character standing still, trapped in the past while everyone else finds a way forward. Haesoo is literally trapped in that moment Joowon told him “Don’t fall for me”.


SPOILER!!!











That’s why the confession scene is so poignant. It’s not just a confession but Haesoo’s first step forward in 94 chapters! He reopened that wound by being honest about still loving Joowon as much as he did all those years again when he tried to confess. Joowon recognized it too because he rewrote their story as he said he would and confirmed what Haesoo has been silently begging for, that yes they do love each other and it’s always been love and Haesoo hasn’t been alone in feeling all the emotional turmoil from the lack of communication and blatant lies they’ve told each other. They’re finally standing in the same place after 10 years. Youngha wrote something beautiful and it’s so stupid to reduce it to ship wars.

Ahh I see there's still some clowns spewing the most stupid and outdated shit such as, 'tHey wEre STep bRoTheRs!11!", and "jOoWoN iS mAniPulaTive aNd aBusiVe!111!1". Bitch don't you think you misattribute those traits to him instead of Taku? How, for God's sake HOW THE FUCK is Joowon manipulative when fucking Mophead is the one who:

1. Basically stalked Haesoo by arranging a meet up specifically requesting to be interviewed by him and planned to TOY with him while he's staying in Korea with the aim for a quick fling in mind, just like how he USED and MANIPULATED his models for his own gain and broke things off with them once he reached his ends leaving them broken and devastated. He was planning to do the same to Haesoo. He thinks of relationship as candy, something that he could keep moving on from for a new one once the sweetness and pleasure from the old one is gone.

2. Tried to play a sick mindgame with Haesoo when he told him he had a porn online and encouraged him to look for and watch it just to get him interested. What a fucking creep. If it were me I would've fled the scene in a matter of seconds like my life depended on it.

3. Later on it was revealed that he told Haesoo about that porno of his so that Haesoo may use that to write an expose about him and so he in return could guilt trip him with it and force the poor guy into dating him. Taku had planned everything to snatch Haesoo from the very beginning and was even willing to use a guilt-trip card to achieve his end and if that isn't enough manipulation to you then idk what is

4. Continued to manipulate Haesoo the entire goddamn time when he attempted to evoke emotions from Haesoo for the interest of his job.

5. HAD DUB-CON SEX WITH HAESOO NOT ONCE BUT TWICE

6. Emotionally manipulated him by begging and pressuring him into a fake sad trial relationship even after he initially refused because Taku is selfish and couldn't respect Haesoo's choices and feelings.

7. Knows damn well Haesoo has 0 (zero) feelings for him and is still in love with Joowon but is still UNWILLING to let him go because he's only thinking of himself that GRADE A SELFISH BASTARD

8. Is attempting to tie him down in the fake relationship by buying him a ring for his unstable PRETEND relationship. Seriously Taku's guilt tripping game is ON POINT I am perplexed.

Taku is a literal representation of a sociopath and you STILL think Joowon is manipulative??? Y'all need glasses and actual reading comprehension skills. And I wouldn't even bother addressing the step brother "issue". The story has made it very clear since chp 1 what their status is now and at this point you're just making a clown of yourself by nitpicking because you're out of good reasons to bring JxH down and support your problematic unhealthy af ship. Pathetic.

Taku and Haesoo's relationship is so unhealthy, I can't. Imagine being in a relationship where you only use your partner as a rebound and they're that much obsessed with you they let you—I am appalled by the toxicity of it all. Seriously anyone should be able to see how one-sided the whole thing is and problematic and how it isn't any better than JxH (which has a chance at working) in the slightest, if not probably worse. Nothing good comes out of their relationship, really.
Like, name one, ONE positive thing about their arrangement (I refuse to further call it relationship since it can hardly be considered one) which can't be argued against with the above said fact.
Taku was clearly not in his right mind when he begged Haesoo to give it a try with him knowing that the guy has zero romantic feelings for him, and he is clearly not in it now either because he's clinging desperately to something that isn't going to work out for the both of them. Taku needs to learn that acting out on his obsession isn't gonna do him, and in this case also the person he's dating, any good. He needs to get over his infatuation with Haesoo and be mature and call off this little arrangement that will only cause them both even more pain in the future and MOVE ON. Mind that Taku still hasn't had his character development up to this point in the story. This is it, this is his chance at that. Being selfless by letting go of the person he "loves" like Joowon did would be his most suiting character development, in addition to getting to experience for the first time the same feeling he caused his past lovers, hurt. He and Haesoo are just not meant to be, and forcing it will only cause them to hurt more. If you're a Taku stan and truly care about him you would agree.

sorry to disappoint some people here, but heasoo was not crying because he realized how much taku love him or realized how much he loved taku
He was crying because he realized the emptiness in his life, something he didn't want to lose, ( JOOWON) "if felt like something was being cut out from my life it make me really sad"
It take a long long long time, but everyone understand their feelings, the 3 of them was selfish, at different moment,
joowon was to sure about his relationship with heasoo, and act wrong because he want to protect him.

heasoo put himself as a victim, and putting all the blame on joowon

Taku only act for him and for his personal satisfaction

People can say what they want, Joowon have the biggest character development, and he is the most mature

it would be time to stop calling him "brother" or that he was only there to "fuck" with heasoo as many think,
it's been 70 chapter since they did it the last time
it’s also joowon who refuses in this chapter to sleep with him

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_or_hate_yeongha/uu/d_chapter-3/pg-4/

the relationship was toxic, but it’s not like that anymore, they both grow up, and if people continue to blame the relationship, you can’t only blame joowon, heasoo was not an angel, he was wrong too.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/love_or_hate_yeongha/uu/ibx_chapter-87/pg-5/

I understand that some of you want Taku To be the end game because you like him
But honestly do you really feel some chemistry ? Love ? Do you think taku and heasoo are happy like that ? Taku feel alone/sad when he is with heasoo and feel happy when H is sad that so weird (chapter 93) Or it’s because you don’t like joowon, so you want taku to be the end game ?
the relationship taku has with heasoo only brings out his bad sides, he feel insecure because he know heasoo is still in love with someone else

we can't force heasoo to go out with someone he doesn't have romantic feelings for, that would be unfair even if for a lot "it's the best choice" it doesn't work like that, I know loh is just a non real story but it’s the same in reality you don't go out "with the best choices"