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Also the majority of manhwa characters are so annoying and more assholes than this

Ikr?? Like damn bro he wasn't even the worse he's the lowest lvl of toxicity unlike the rest I've seen lol

Hi novel translator here, there is a canon ending and it was unexpected for all of us.....

Please spoil it of you don't mind

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It was Hina

...THE GIRL???? Should I still continue the manga at this point LMAOOO

Up to you I was genuinely devastated I FELT SO BAD AS THE TRANSLATOR?? I recommend you to pretend as if the main ending didn't happen and continue with the other routes

Sorry this might be outta nowhere but where can i find your translations? (the link on foxaholic seems to be broken)

Ah if it's like that you can find it from Novel Updates too! Just search for the English title

Found it!! Thanks so much for translating the novel (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ I hope you have a good new year!

No problem! Happy New Year

You should just give up. Not like he's going to get character devepment. If ppl hate that he cheats, they shouldn't even be reading this story bc the synopsis clearly show it's there. If they read bc they think he'll get some redemption, he doesn't. If they think he'll get some huge regret scene for cheating, he doesn't. If you ppl are just reading for Ines, she can only heal bc of Carcel anyways so yeah, keep hating the person who will heal the girl you ppl simp for

Don't listen the haters. Do what you like and express how you feel about this manhwa and what we can see from it. I mean, that's the point after all after having the possibility to read this and having the comment section.

Funny you call the actual fans haters when it's the people hating Luciano/Carcel/her family that are the real haters. They're ppl that Ines loves so who are the real haters. You're all just only reading for Ines only, not the story. If you hate other characters in her life that she loves, I can't see how you ppl aren't the actual haters.

I don't understand why you still caught up in that? It's not like he still doing tht? There's no point of u continuing this story if dislike it

Because who are you to get on every comment and hate?! Literally a nobody. We're all here to express how we feel about the manhwa and the characters. You don't have the right to tell someone what should do with their reading. You act like an obsessed person and write under literally every comment that's not to your liking and start a heated discussion even though it's not even about the manhwa, it's about the novel. Like dude..... please. I have no words anymore, i'm appalled.

Um because it's my opinion? I'm putting on my thoughts cause that is the comment section for? It's not like I'm just blindly hating, it's an opinion. I said I was gonna try to read this story because I know the ml isn't doing the cheating anymore and I wanna try not to give up on this story yet because MAYBE there is hope for myself that i would actually like him

Yes, thank you that someone actually understands. Sometimes stating an actual opinion and not an insult on the internet nowadays is scary...

What I don’t understand is why anybody thinks he should’ve been a devout fiancé since the age of 6. Like that whole thing is weird to me. By now, All readers know that Ines was a grown woman in the body of a child. All readers know that she chose Carcel to escape marrying Oscar. All readers know that Carcel was super scared when she chose him and cried as a 6 year old because he didn’t want to marry her. All readers know that he eventually began to follow her around during childhood. All readers know that she ghosted him when he was a teenager and he believed she no longer loved him. All readers know that that’s when he decided to live his own life as any hormonal teen should until he was ready for marriage. And yet I keep finding people who think that somehow, Carcel should’ve just lived his life according to Ines’ will, by sitting in a corner until she was ready to marry him (and divorce him of course). And the justification for that is, the FL
chose him so he should stay loyal even when she’s ignoring him after having decided to marry him all on her own?

The only time Carcel made the conscious decision of being committed to Ines is when he married her. If he sees other people now, then it’s cheating. But him living his own life when he was in an engagement he didn’t choose for himself? Good for him. That’s my opinion on the matter.

I don't think that anyone thinks that he should've been faithful at 6 years old. Also it's creepy if someone needs to state that. I think the reason why most people are mentioning the cheating part is because of those teenage years where they actually should've been faithful to each other. Ines chose him for a reason and she knew that he would be a well coveted man since that happened in their previous lives too. That was her point after all. He was literally the most good looking boy. She hoped that he would continue cheating on her so she would have a reason to divorce him and live as a free single woman. Also, Carcel since he was a kid (from what i can remember from reading the manhwa) was always kinda scared to talk to Ines since she had literally resting bitch face and was kinda unapproachable but also wanted to kinda get close to her since they were betrothed. So i guess there was a lot of miscommunication there, but later on when the hormones and temptation hit that's where Ines's plan started and let's be real if Carcel himself said that he had a bad reputation then we know it's real real lol.

That’s my whole point. Ines chose him. Ines married him because she wanted to and she also plans to divorce him as she sees fit. And I said since he was 6 years old to illustrate that she was the one basically in control of the fact that they’d have a future together. So I still don’t understand why people think it’s only natural for him to stay put until she was good and ready. They think he should’ve been faithful and committed to a relationship he didn’t choose. Now that he’s chosen it, that’s when those actions should matter much more than they seem to still matter to some readers.

now that you said it you made some point. Yes, we shouldn't have expected carcel to be devoted at the age of 6, probably my only issue is that he claims that he loved her yet continues to fool around anyways since he felt like ines is not interested on him anymore (let's forget abt ines pov on this one and just focus on carcel's pov) instead of communicating with her he let his teenage hormones to act up. And yes, this issue is on me because I cannot stand cheaters especially with a personal experience. Even though he change and was now devoted I'm not the forgiving type when it comes to cheating. In short this story isn't for me and will drop this to stop the further arguments.

So basically you're saying that if in some marriages the feelings are one sided, the other side can do whatever they want? If they want to cheat they can cheat, if they want to take a mistress they can? That's a bad logic. You're also basically saying that since he didn't choose the relationship his behaviour thus far was okay.

Don't quit.
The people here that can't see the possibility that maybe you'll grow to understand and like the character later on is their problem and the inability of having an open mind. They forget that we can have different emotions and feelings about characters throughout the manhwa and that they can change.
Do what you want and write what you want.

Thank you I'm actually desperate to like Carcel to the point I'm coping on c.ai LMAO. Then after that I would read the manhwa so I can have good feelings. But seeing ppl acknowledging his cheating behavior is just making me go back to square one about my feelings to him :((

This! Exactly. I don't know how to properly explain it but this is what I totally mean as well :(( I don't want to start an argument with them but here they are getting triggered bc i have a different opinions on carcel. Like, I'm trying my best to like and understand him

See, the problem is you guys are looking at this through general lenses of “when you’re in a couple, even if you didn’t choose to be a couple, if you see someone else, it’s cheating.” I’m looking at the context of the story and I believe that cheating is appalling only if the people in the relationship are committed to each other.

Ines, although her life ended tragically, made her own life choices. She was married to Oscar because she loved him. It just so happened that he turned out to be a piece of shxt. She ran away with Emiliano to use him as an escape and got him killed on the process. She lived her life by the sum of her own choices. As far as he knows or remembers, this is Carcel’s first life. He had no say in who he would spend the rest of his life with and he actually accepted it.

He feels bad now because like you guys, he feels he betrayed their relationship even though Ines rejected him when they were teenagers. Meanwhile I, like Ines, don’t feel bad because he didn’t live his life based on her own whims, pining after her until she was good and ready to
Proceed with their marriage. Plus the fact that Carcel is exactly the man Ines wanted is also one of the reasons why none of his behavior is wrong to me. That’s why as far as she’s concerned, he deserves better. Some readers agree as well, but I love them both and I just think they deserve each other.


And BONUS SPOILERS:
the queen was a big supporter of their union because she didn’t want Ines to be with her son since she might outshine her. However since Carcel is her nephew, she basically had the best of both worlds and was cool with that. I say this because people have said he could’ve ended the engagement when in fact he couldn’t have. Nor did he actually want to. Nor did Ines. And I don’t know why it wasn’t in the webtoon, but according to novel readers, Carcel wasn’t initially a womanizer. Ines basically kept building that idea in his head when they were kids so he’d do it once grown. Who knows, they might cover that later.

Regardless of the spoilers though, I stand by my opinion on the matter.

Ines' plan didn't start when they were teens. It started since she chose him. She was talking to a lawyer at 10 years old. She was already plotting it way earlier than you think. She didn't choose him bc he was a coveted man. She chose him bc she thought he was a playboy from the lifetime when she was crown princess. She didn't know he wasn't a rl playboy so it was her words and actions in this life that made him do those things bc it was never in his nature to sleep around for no reason or just bc he's horny. He was only scared of her in the beginning but he did end up liking her. That was also shown in the manhwa when they were talking with Oscar and when he was alone with her, he started blushing and liking her and kept doing things that she kept ordering him to do and he didn't know why. Carcel been liking her way long before puberty and Ines' plan didn't start at puberty. She been plotting it since she chose him for the purpose to make him cheat and divorce him. That's why she even said to him that she don't care if he doesn't love her and only she need to love him. Carcel only started to think his actions are bad bc he think he might've hurt Ines when he didn't think of that before and I can't blame him when she kept turning him down even when she said she loved him. She was playing with his feelings with her actions and words. His reputation wasn't that bad when the whole country is promiscuous anyways. He just does have a promiscious reputation that YOU think is bad and that some other people think it's true, but if you even really read the manhwa, it shows he's not even that promiscuous. He only slept around in Mendoza and never at Calztela where he spends most of the yr. The only time he went to Mendoza was bc he had to attend those parties the empress tell him to attend with Ines, and no one questin why he don't sleep around in Calztela but only in Mendoza. Pretty sus that Ines is only at Mendoza too.

Their whole cheating stance is so fking stupid bc then are they going to tell me that Ines should've been loyal to Oscar then? She was engaged to him too but people be saying that she was forced into it. That's so funny bc Carcel is the one rly forced into the engagement and Ines' engagement with Oscar before was something she wanted and liked and not forced.

Those readers are just self-inserting. If they're reading through Ines' lense then they can see he's not bad bc why would she be mad at him for sleeping around when she knew about it and wanted it. It's the readers who self-insert and don't want it so they're mad. She practically plotted to make him lose interest in her while also lovebombing him. She been talking to a lawyer at 10 about divorce. If you look at Ines' lense, you can see Carcel didn't do no wrong and that's why she can tell Carcel it's not his fault but readers can't see it bc they don't understand Ines or read from her own feelings. They're just self-inserting.

Well also generally speaking your opinion on how to handle this matter is wrong. I don't want to seem like I'm attacking you but if you say this to someone else know that you'll be seen like the crazy person. She didn't manipulate him because she didn't actually do or said anything to him. They just didn't have any contact. So if that's the reason why someone should start cheating okay, you do you. Also with your opinion in the beginning if you don't think it's appalling, no words just wow and again, you do you. And the situation about Ines and Oscar if you thought a little bit more you'd see that no sane woman will stay with her raping, cheating, beating husband. So her escaping and then later on finding love, is okay and actually brave because a lot of woman wouldn't have actually thought that they could be close to another man. And that's a fact. Carcel literally admits that he did bad things, idk what else to tell you.

You just can't let people feel what they feel reading this manhwa. Go talk to the author for how you don't like the manhwa adaptation because it's not the readers fault. It's here, it's out and those are the facts. My opinion also won't change about this.

Yes she was a grown person in a kids body. Yes she did talk to a lawyer and yes she did have a plan that everyone (readers) know. But no, they didn't have contact so she actually didn't do anything to him. The fact is still there that he was a beautiful and coveted man and he fell to those temptations. And yes i do think this and a bunch of other people because that's how this manhwa is made. Stick to the manhwa and read only the facts. Everyone knew about his reputation and a lot of women were sad that he was officially getting married but later on said that he would fell to his temptation because he would have a different woman almost every single day before the wedding, so they were basically confident that he would cheat with them.

No, I’m fairly certain that I won’t be seen like a crazy person at all. The fact that people disagree with your view of thinking and others agree with mine is proof alone. I could elaborate but your reply was so weird to me that I had to wonder if you actually spoke to the person you intended to reply to while reading it.

Also yes, they had contact during their childhood. Just not during their teenage years. Everything else you said, super weird too. Again, it’s as if you have no grasp of what I’m actually saying because you have tunnel vision on the matter and so it makes your comprehension of the story odd to me. Anyone else who replied to me before you certainly didn’t give me that impression.

It feels like you’re not actually reading my comment to understand why anyone would have a different viewpoint from yours, but rather just so you can have something to be mad about. I have no clue which part of my comment even suggests that I’m unhappy about this webtoon and I’ve never even read the novel, so….??????

If you have nothing constructive to contribute to these arguments, I’d rather you not respond to me again.

When they grew up a little they didn't had contact, you're making me to start read the manhwa again just to prove on which occasion they saw each other for the first time in awhile cuz i also remember Carcel's shocked face when Ines caught him with another woman. And no, i know for a fact that a lot of people would disagree to your opinion and the first example is the OP here since they feel weird about Carcel's character because they're a victim of cheating as i remember (i don't reread the whole comment section). So yea, idk in what universe think that cheating is okay but you do you. We won't understand each other and won't change our opinions so at least you're right in that part that we should stop commenting here.

You ATE so bad and i love you for it. I'm not good with arguments since I can't put my thoughts properly but you put all my same thoughts with all your replies. And I do also hope there's no further arguments because we're just gonna stand in our own opinion at the end of the day :))

Just keep reading pal you'll change your tune

Oh just you wait TT^TT <333

Wait did Emiliano do something and I missed it? Σ( ￣□￣||)

It's not that he did anything, its what her current husband did in all her past lives, I'm not sure if you're caught up so I won't say. This is my opinion, but i don't think her and Emiliano were meant to last, it says they were blinded by love which would imply they were happy with what they have but it's more like they didn't realize they were bad for eachother, it was a relationship built on poverty, guilt, and her last ditch effort to get away from the crown prince

Yeah I completely agree. I meant just wait for her current husband’s back story <333

Oooooooh gotcha gotcha. That makes sense
I am caught up but was worried I missed something lolol