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it's probably not what it was intended to mean, but hashiba not having his string connected to anyone and then realizing Miyanari is still his most special person was such an aroace example of love and care for a person

i know at the end he still wanted to kiss Miyanari but i choose my hc and I've decided to not read that as romantic attraction anyways

also, Miyanari being so fucking infatuated with Hashiba and still not even thinking of having sex at all is so ace of him
like, it's not even that sex doesn't exist in this world, he's very aware of that possibility (hence the bl manga he read) but he still didn't *want* to have sex
like... it would've been so easy for the BL manga to insert the idea of "wanting to have sex" in his mind AND IT STILL DIDN'T

ugh anyways idc idc they're aroace coded and its final !!!!

actually yes i love the idea of it too we need more aroace rep

I don't get it. I'm aroace and I think if anything this is ace. I don't see the aro in there. These two like each other. Maybe what people consider to be aroace changed nowadays? I also don't think romance would be the right genre to represent it.

Idk what you think aroness is?? but you can like ppl even if you're aro you just lack romance or you don't like romance but as i said that doesn't mean you can't like or love anyone in different ways so yea it can be aro or even ace

That's why I'm saying I don't see it. These two like each other romantically. If the seme were aroace or just aro he wouldn't have gotten to the realization that he likes the uke as more than a friend. Choosing to be in a relationship when you are aroace is like choosing to marry a friend just cause of convenience or going into an arranged marriage with the mindset to making it work. You don't choose the person because there's something inherent about them that makes them special over everyone else to you. The love that is involved is familiar love or friendship. It's not romantic and it's not sexual. It is moreso based on reason than emotion. Some people in the community struggle with that and have strong feelings against marrying because they feel like they would be deceiving the other person or depriving them of someone that could actually love them (romantically or sexually). In this story, both the uke and the seme develop romantic feelings and then sexual attraction (at the very end in the seme's case). That's neither aro nor even ace really. If we want to label the seme with something then I think something like demisexual fits better here.


(Note: I disagree with aro being associated with not liking romance. It has to do with truly not feeling romantic attraction. Being aroace is like seeing people as flowers. You don't fall in love with a plant. And you don't thirst after them either.)

For context I am an adult woman and have been aroace my whole life. No crushes. No interest whatsoever to date or hold hands with or kiss or sleep with anybody. I grew up thinking my friends were dumb for having relationships in elementary/middle/high school when clearly they weren't going to get married with their bfs. I could not comprehend what they were feeling (and I will never truly understand tbh). I eventually realized it wasn't normal to not feel attracted to someone before 20. I didn't understand why my mom would solemnly ask me every once in a while if I was lesbian. I eventually found my community around 10 years ago and came to accept that I didn't have the capability to have certain feelings/desires that people normally have. At least based on my experience, and the people like me that I've interacted with, the kids in the manga seem like regular ass boys who in a manga world would probably end up marrying out of love and live 'happily ever after'. There's nothing wrong with that. I just really don't see how anything that's portrayed in the manga falls into my (perhaps outdated) understanding of what aroace is.

why did you hate It?

Can you explain why? I am truly interested and am trying to understand how you can to that conclusion

Yeah, I agree

It's you who thinks it that way (︶︿︶)＝凸

i disagree & agree at the same time

ohhh if you're ok with it, i would love to know why 0.0

i put it on the original comment but it seemed to be cut off t__t personally, i felt like it was somewhat realistic/normal for him to have lost weight when they became adults with full time jobs, imo it would’ve been fatphobic if they made him lose weight during the misunderstanding/highschool part, but that’s just me :] everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but do correct me if my take is offensive (๑•ㅂ•)و

mmm i see, personally as a fat adult who was also a fat child and teen, i don't think it's actually "more" realistic to loose weight when you grow up, and since thats a common trope i find it as a fatphobic one
ofc people can loose/gain weight when they grow up, but i always (especially on manga) see the young character become thin when they grow up and never the other way around or even them staying fat, so my first thought will always be that it is fatphobic to make the character thin

also, i see these sort of narratives as a way to blame fat people for our weight, even if its unintentional (but this is purely my interpretation coming from my lived experience, i don't mind if people don't agree)

on the other hand, him having to loose weight during the misunderstanding or as an implicit requisite for them to become a couple would habe been more obviously/explicitly fatphobic than what happened

i think of this as similar to micro-aggressions, its so common and naturalized that people don't react or recognize it as fatphobic, and often times us fat people are the ones who do get it or identify it as such

i understand what you mean, i’m definitely seeing it from a much different perspective now, and i’m sorry if what i said upset you in any way, it was not my intention at all

I am also a fat person, but I didn't find it fatphobic.. rather, i thought it ws gd tht da mangaka shwd tht da seme ddnt like da uke cz he's fat.. cz it ws kinda feeling like tht.. i mn, it's nt wrng to hv a preference.. sm ppl like fat prtnrs da sm way s sm ppl like skinny prtnrs.. bt i lv tht in here it ws abt da personality, nt his body type..

i wouldnt call it fatphobic because the author really took care to portray it as the natural course of things and not him getting “better”; he simply changed. i know it feels a little contradictory to the rest of the story but the focus was how arai fell in love with him no matter the way he looks.
though i feel like he lost a load of weight and could’ve still looked a little chubbier at the end , i still love that ending.

I'm gonna have to agree with you on this, even though sometimes it's 50/50, but the story portrayed him as being disgusted and/or embarrasses by his previous weight and essentially having a whole personality change because of it. The biggest evidence that this story leans towards being fat phobic is that the author did not create a sex scene in which the character is fat(which is probably what we were all waiting for) and instead chose to wait till the very end when character was thin to do so and looked like an entirely different person. Also, there were many times that the MC was openly hated on for his weight and I did not feel that the love interest defended him against those remarks nearly enough, almost passive aggressively insinuating he should lose weight. And in Chapter 3, although the love interest previously stated that he loved him ad he was, he openly stated that the MC should "lose a few pounds." I don't think that is an acceptable statements towards a partner and especially a brand new partner, that would make anyone feel just awful. And eventually, yes, the MC did change to comply with his love interests words of course so ehhhh 3 stars from me.

i mean if the uke himself wants to lose weight for his loved ones why should we argue about it

I'm literally on the floor punching the air and kicking the wall with my eyes red because I've been crying

you're one weird ass mf

Thanks!

They're weird for having emotions?