Sometimes Raphael reminds me of a jilted lover out for revenge, but is still in love (≧∀≦)
I’ve got a genuine question.
I’m not here to defend Jaekyung or excuse what he did — but I’ve noticed that characters like Cesare and Zhenya, who have also crossed serious lines with their partners, still get a lot of love in the BL community. Meanwhile, Jaekyung tends to get a lot more hate.
So I’m just wondering — why do you think people react so differently to them, when Cesare and Zhenya are arguably worse than Jaekyung?
Because he hasn't redeemed himself yet, and his story isn't done. We need to get to the other side first.
My personal theory but i think it's because zhenya and Cesar are like "fictional dark daddy" and jaekyung reminds them of toxic ex
erm has zhenya been redeemed? the double standards is crazy
Dont know who zhenya is, but Cesear fits the "obsessive ml" trope, like so in love that he's crazy. Jaekyung is only just now realizing he MIGHT like the uke, and has basically been using him this whole time. Essentially, the difference is whether they love the uke or not, not how bad their actions are ╮(￣▽￣)╭
different fandoms think differently
Zhenya also didn't realise until later that he liked takejoo. He literally threw him in a freezing cold river NAKED after r*ping him. So I don't think it's love
Novel reader here, he just got better. Don't get it wrong, i dont think he ever truly apologised for what he did. But Real code name anastasia fans still love him, not because they are blind simps but because he is complex character with dark morals. They know he is bad and I'm certain they don't go around saying that zhenya is better bf than jaekyung. ( I still fucking hate zhenya).
And overall also, Zehnya owns up to his behaviour. He willingly engages with the underground and at least recognises it and takes responsibility for it. Within a psychological story, morals are presented in many different lights, and acknowledgement, self-awareness is definitely one of them.
Oh yeah, Cesar just hwak thwa ed on his redemption. Since I'm not a fucking pussy I will say I still like him. That's cuz he is a black flag and him acting like that is in charcter.
Cesare redeemed himself??? Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
The only only thing that happened was that Cesare mellowed a bit, and we all collectively erased the kidnapping incident from our minds.
As far as I know for Zhenya bro is still an ass.
Will his past as a scammer be weaponized against him in the future, or will they just find out he is alive and leave it be?
At this point can it really be weaponized though? He was like 5 when he started and about 13/14 when he faked his death in middle school. I think most of his major crimes were done in his past life, since he got out early I don’t think it will hurt him too much. I’m sure it’ll show up eventually since it seems like he wants to bring back his father that cared for him. I just hope the father with the long red hair doesn’t need everything up too badly…
It still can be weaponized against him, 5 or not, it doesn't change the fact that people were scammed. The right narrative spin can make it into a career ending bomb.
Why can I relate to bro so much (well in the laziness aspect). Wi Yeonho must definitely be my spirit. (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Off to search for the novel (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ Wish me luck.
I am not sure if this is a manhwa only issue or if it also happens in the novel. But we spend about 70% sometimes 90% of a chapter glazing up the Mc, and make little to no progress in moving the actual plot forward.
Also what do they mean by the edgier his back story the greater his affinity to dark mana
Yea but like the way it's executed/drawn in the mănhwa is pretty funny lmao. I mean isnt the premise of this whole thing basically started around making fun of how cringe Mr Grandfell Edgelord Romeo sounds in the first place (and still is) rofl? We got dope art and relaxing story, I didnt come here looking for sth too deep based on the sypnosis and intro chap anyways lololl
For me its a bit of a breath of fresh air twist to the basic cliche OP korean player climbs dungeon tower trope ngl
Besides (beware Grandfell spoiler) i think novel readers kinda confirmed Grandfell is a different person than Hoyeol whose dark edgy tragic backstory did happen and was supposed to be a vessel for the demon of pride (ig like the yusra king) so ig that explains why he's such an aura farmer all the time lolollll
Bro has done a lot of things but the only thing that sticks with me is how horrible of a husband he must be.
I wished they had found an excuse for him to not have wife instead of including her off stage and killing her off stage too. Or better still since they had accidentally created the horrible husband and family man narrative, they should have just run with it, and given his character more dimension. His character is honestly very boring to me.
Prepare your hearts and minds, for this is a story of hard work and perseverance. This 2nd regression will technically be his first and last relatively peaceful and headache free life.
Wdym about that??? Spoilers please
Also camping here
I was putting it off because there really is a lot to say, but here it is:
What I really appreciate is how the author subtly expands the worldbuilding through each of his reincarnations. Even though the broad strokes of his life often follow the same general pattern, it never feels monotonous. There's always something new—a fresh insight, a new faction, or a twist that makes the world feel more alive and layered.
Basically, he can only live for a maximum of 50 years—and that’s only if he leads a relatively mundane life without pushing beyond a certain cultivation level. Advancing to major realms typically takes him an entire lifetime. And every time he dies, he has to start from scratch. While the process of recultivating tends to be slightly faster, it still eats away at his limited 50-year lifespan.
To make matters worse, the heavens themselves are actively working against him. Not only is his talent for martialarts and cultivation the shittiest, but divine forces intervene to stifle his progress whenever they can. For instance, at a certain stage in the Qi Foundation realm (I believe when trying to advance from level 6 to 7), the heavens must grant him their divine approval through a ritual. This celestial "seal of approval" is necessary to continue cultivating. But in his case, the heavens outright refuse. He ends up stuck, spending years constructing altars to the heavens and desperately pleading with the heavens—until he eventually forces his way through using a less-than-holy workaround.
Later, when he finally manages to extend his predestined lifespan to 300 years, only to discover—thanks to his predecessor from a past regression—that an eldritch like horror is hunting him across time. Yes, an ancient, unknowable entity is chasing him through lifetimes . And apparently, if he continues to grow stronger, it will eventually catch up to him. The only ways to avoid detection are:
1. Never, ever reveal to anyone that he is a regressor. If he has already told someone, he’s already doomed, regardless of whether he told them in a previous lifetime.
2. Live as mundane and unremarkable a life as possible, so the beast remains unable to accurately detect his presence.
This man seriously cannot catch a break. And this is only the tip of the iceberg. There's still the entire situations involving the Mad Lord (aka the Hunchback) and the dragon he meets at the start of every life, and so much more.
Dang that's really a lot. Tysm for sharing and putting that into a summary
Thank you for your time explaining that
I wouldn’t go as far as calling Dennis a loser. Rather, he’s a victim of a manipulative and toxic relationship. He may come across as a “loser” to us as readers because the book makes the red flags in his situation painfully obvious.
In the latter part of Chapter 6, we see how Todd exploits Dennis’ anxiety around disappointing others. He dangles the promise of love and companionship—on the condition that Dennis proves his loyalty by killing a sheep. This moment showcases Todd’s manipulative skills and the effects of his subtly planted justifications (“losing one or two sheep isn’t a big deal”) to influence Dennis' future decision. Faced with a choice between displeasing his employers or disappointing Todd—who is physically present and emotionally imposing—Dennis chooses Todd. Not just because he hopes the consequences at work will be minor, but because he’s desperate to avoid the dissapponting stare of the very present Todd.
This is manipulation 101. But the deeper question is: if you were in Dennis’ exact situation, with his same emotional baggage and fears, would you really be able to say no to Todd?
I mean, with Todd's pretty face. I too could not resist him and get manipulated by him lol
Richard is about to have a major crash out, I can feel it.