Lmao to those hating on the author I just wanted to say:
when reading about these things, it’s telling people “things like this do exist and if u find it disgusting while reading it then let it serve as a reminder not to do it in real life or you will be just as disgusting as the character you are hating on” so if a lesson like that could be learn I don’t see why we should hate on the author for using it as a plot.
Besides I don’t see y’all complaining about killing, fighting, cheating etc. we literally watch these 90% of the time in movies and whatnot we watch.
Oh as an add on please wait to read the whole damn chapters concerning the situation before judging. Are u guys still believing all MD is doing is revenge on chanwoo? Think past what u see. BDSM is pretty much already messed up so why is one slap causing a fuss And demanding this much hatred smh
Hating on the author is wrong, but opinions and critics about the storyline don’t have to always be positive. I think for most it’s not about « I hate the author for the storyline » it’s just you feel so invested into the story that you’d give your thoughts as if it was actually happening although it’s just fiction. For my part I dislike this situation very much because that was not actual bdsm but more like MD using it as a tool to vent his anger, but I still enjoy the story and the author in itself I’m not bashing the manga as a whole
I very much understand what u are saying cuz sometimes I feel like that too am like “omfg this characterrrr ugh” but trust me plenty of mangago commenters are hating on the author. I’ve seen more than enough comment. They mostly go “of course the author made the plot like this, am so disappointed it’s so gross why do they always use this. This author is disgusting. This is not something to be used as story plot etc.” That. That is not critic it’s just hating.
About the MD business i don’t think MD is venting his anger on chanwoo. This whole thing is not all about revenge. U will probably see it later along the chapters (I haven’t seen the raw yet but u will most likely see this is not all about revenge) and let me breakdown what happened
* MD gets rejected
* Chanwoo wants MD as his Dom knowing fully well about MD’s feelings.
* MD says okay then let me get me a sub cuz uk no one wants that hurt and one offers himself right there
* Chanwoo doesn’t want to let go of MD and doesn’t want MD to get another sub knowing damn well how MD feels but still wants
* and so he chooses to fight for MD in his own way in that world of theirs.
* MD then wants both of them to pass his test.
First of all. Chanwoo was a kid playing with fire, he needed to get burned to know fire is not a toy. And so MD played the role of a fire and pushed chanwoo, he wanted chanwoo to learn how to put a limit on himself and use a safe word. Now if u ask me it’s wayyyy better than letting chanwoo go knowing damn well he would probably still go around picking up scums that might choke him to death one day.
And yes he needed to push it that far cuz I don’t think a hard headed person like chanwoo would have learned his lessons the normal way. They used BDSM style. Now b4 u saying it was “abusing a mentally unstable person” like other people say I’ll tell u this, I can’t really say that sadist and masochist are classified as “normal” and so can’t be placed under “mentally stable” people cuz let’s be real here no one in their right mind would enjoy inflicting pain or enjoy getting one inflicted on them.
With that being said to anyone into bdsm this is not an insult to u. Just cuz it’s not “normal” doesn’t mean u are the scum of the earth. Enjoy what u enjoy.
hmmm I agree with what u mean but I would never insult or curse an author I personally expressed in the past my dislike in another story and I said something like « I don’t understand why authors keep on making these kinds of story even though it has so much potential » so it’s not really hating but giving an honest opinion more like XD and sorry but I can’t really agree with u because MD never said he wanted a new partner ? It was made clear in the beginning that this was a strictly business relationship and they could have boyfriends both of them... so MD even though he knows that still decided to go for it which he has the right to but just as chanwoo who rejected him bc well he can. So unless I missed something it was never mentioned that their bdsm relarionship was over nor MD saying « I wanna end this and find another sub »
True MD didn’t directly say he wants to end it. But he did say “he like to keep only one sub” and so Chanwoo probably felt he had to defend his position and he has to keep MD seeing as he was hurting when MD and that guy were kissing. Sometimes it’s good to take a character’s reaction and other details into consideration and thoughts cuz somethings the authors don’t clearly say and so u have to think for urself and look past what is being shown.
In any case how should I put it, even tho we don’t have the same opinion I am really grateful for the way u handled this conversation cuzzz u actually give good points and u don’t go around talking like those cliche mangago commenters and throwing insults.
Yes we can agree on not agreeing XD thx
Sooooo the comments section now wanna be filled with people saying “Md” had to do what needs to be done to help chanwoo put a limit on himself” I thought y’all was talking about how “MD IS AN ABUSER, he’s just mad chanwoo rejected him”
those trolls were sooo bias and it was funny how stupid they were (≧∀≦)
Ikrrr
Those two just hadddd to do something stupid huh. Truth is even if they hadn’t shot Michelle the same thing still would’ve happened cuz those two will eventually find Caleb and the rest and still pull the same move of breaking in and fighting. Jack I don’t care if it was for love but you were one hell of an idiot.
I have so many words for these recent chapters I-
But Anywhos I just love how the first pages that usually have the chapters number gives a summary on what that chapter is going to be about. For example this one
http://iweb11.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/dear_door/27/49de25f014e7d67edf30958a78139ed9.jpeg
It happened to be about sid and that guy fighting and arguing as usual, while Cain and gyeong joon being an eye candy as always
Lmaooo I was just watching fate series and I find it funny cuz it also has “holy grail” that “only grants one wish” and mc lost everything cuz of the holy grail war
No no don’t tell that concubine she’s definitely gonna plan something stupid in that 7 days b4 the ceremony
I was just thinking that too And he's so cute I was internally squealing (⌒▽⌒)
Ikrrr. But that concubine is gonna ruin it
I mean on the bright side she will most likely die Still not the best but she'll probably die hopefully ╥﹏╥(▰˘◡˘▰)
Uk chanwoo is like a kid playing with fire, if he doesn’t get burned he won’t know when to stop but If he only feels the heat of the flame without getting burned then he would keep going.
Ik people are against what MD is doing but with chanwoo’s personality guys I don’t think the normal way would help him. And so I just wanna say I don’t think this has anything to do with MD being mad about chanwoo’s rejection trust me. He is using this as an opportunity to teach chanwoo.
Now please don’t bring the part about bdsm into this comment cuz it’s only going to end up with “it’s abuse, it’s not abuse”. But I’d say don’t use vanilla sex to judge bdsm it’s not snowflakes material
100% agreed (づ￣ ³￣)づ
There's more to abuse than physical abuse. Right now, MD is being manipulative. Borderline mental abuse, if you ask me.
I was looking for this comment... !
Am not gonna argue with u cuz honestly we all have different opinions and that’s fine. Let’s wait and see how the next chapters play out. Let’s see if MD is being plain abusive or this is a plot to get chanwoo to snap out of it and learn
If you think this type of situation is a good way to make a past-abuse victim to learn from their mistakes, alright.
Right. Chanwoo needs something big to shake him up cuz his past experiences didn’t do a good job of teaching him. And everyone shaming on MD as abusive T^T I mean he may be we never know it based on what we have seen so far I don’t necessarily think so.
Well. For normal people no. Chanwoo is a strong head. He won’t learn. He needs something to open his eyes that he needs to say no when he is not okay with it. Now if he hates the way MD is treating him and hates someone other than him being MD’s sub then he has to say so or MD would just go on. But considering how MD acts he’d probably stop if it goes way to far
Lmaoo
So see if that does happen my petty ass would probably come back here to be like “AHA I TOLD U SO” am so sorry if that happens guys
Yes yessss cuz from the looks of it chanwoo doesn’t want that sub to be MD’s partner so I’d say it’s a development(?)
Ahem ahem I just wanted to sayyyyyy I TOLD YOU SOOOOO
Told us what? If anything, this chapter proves that MD emotionally manipulated Chanwoo, to the point where he said the safe word. He also apologised at the end - which also means he knew he did something wrong.
There’s 2 key things I’ll like to point out:
1.In no frame did the suppose BDSM play even seemed remotely enjoyable to Chanwoo - which goes against the play since it’s meant to be pleasurable for both parties. Chanwoo looked uncomfortable, disgusted and upset the entire time. What did MD do? Kissed the other dude and smiled. Yikes.
2. Yeah, MD got what he wanted in the end if that’s your point - he ‘taught me Chanwoo a lesson (gross). This literally tells me that he had ulterior motive, disguised as BDSM play. That’s manipulation, and hes a scum for that.
But that was the point no? Md had to push it that far for chanwoo to learn. It’s better than leaving chanwoo alone and something way worse than that happens to him. And the same person he kept calling gross is the same one he literally jumped to have sex with Like few days b4 that thing with MD happened
MD isn’t Chanwoo’s therapist. He has no right to teach Chanwoo a lesson LMAO. Tbh, I’m confused as to what the goal is....for Chanwoo to be aware of his abusive romantic relationships? Obviously, it’s fiction (which shouldn’t be an excuse bc abusive relationships isn’t something you should use as a plot device, gross) but pushing someone’s boundaries in this sort of context is harmful and implies the victim is at fault and responsible for their own short-comings. Also, the thing is, Chanwoo isn’t just MD’s ‘sub’.
anyways, you can justify MD’s actions if you want. But don’t act surprised if ppl are critiquing the direction of the webtoon since most of the points are completely valid.
you ask what the goal is - the goal is to make Chan that can and should use the safe word to finally SAY THE SAFE WORD!!! like he could do from the very start but choose not too no matter what MD did!
if he can't USE it, he should not be a sub at all, and MD will find someone else to be his sub.
it simple has that! and MD don't own Chan anything if Chan can date other people and still have sex with MD on the side! MD can change his mind and find other subs if Chan can't do it.
it was Chan who decided to stay and didn't want to lose MD!
True MD isn’t chanwoo’s therapist, but he would rather take it upon himself to help chanwoo before chanwoo ends up probably getting choked to death somewhere out there cuz we all know he’s still gonna go around picking up scumbags. And hey BDSM is already messed up as it is so I don’t see what the fuss about one slap is.
Devising “abuse” as a plot is not so great that’s true however so is devising killing, fighting, cheating etc. and we all watch those in 90% of the Genre out there so I don’t see the difference.
U said it urself “it is fiction” however if we were to relate this to real life matter I’d say that when u reading about these things, it’s telling people “things like this do exist and if u find it disgusting while reading it then let it serve as a reminder not to do it in real life or you will be just as disgusting as the character you are hating on” so if a lesson like that could be learn I don’t see why we should hate on the author for using it as a plot.
Ahhhh one more thing MD didn’t say “sorry” cuz he knows he manipulated chanwoo, he said sorry cuz regardless of his intent behind What he did to chan, he still hurt a person he had feelings for that’s why he had to apologize.
If u spilled ur best friend secrets to keep him/her safe wouldn’t u still apologize to ur best friend for doing that regardless of what ur motives was? It’s the same for MD
Chanwoo darling here’s the deal. How about the next time you see someone and think “oh wow he’s my type” take that as a red light that’s he’s not someone to date. Or better still use the good o’l “let’s get to know each other better” and not just jump into it mkay darling??
bro can date whoever the fuck he wants - he's not married to MD so Im not sure why people think MD deserves to get revenge. the fuck?
but I didn’t say he belonged to MD did I? I literally never even mentioned MD. I said he needs to learn from his past mistakes smh. Am not dissing chanwoo I like the dude too. So am please stop coming after me in an attempt to defend him.
Smh u said I didn’t read comments b4 reply in the other thread yet here u are not reading and replying shit shaking my fucking head. Hypocrisy in the highest. U commenters seem to overdoes on it
MD’s smile is always shady and sadistic. A true master of the arts