The art is really good. The story is just so so for me. The uke is likeable - he’s funny, cute, confident, outgoing, affectionate and personable. The seme is cold, closeted, expressionless, reserved and dry. Opposites for sure. I hated when the the uke stupidly tried to excuse and downplay the sexual assault from the seme’s ex because he(the ex) was stressed/frustrated from also dating a closeted guy. And the part where the seme makes the uke walk away/behind him when they shop in the extra was stupid, its okay to walk together not touching - its fine. I would have liked to see more character/relationship development outside of sex. The seme DOES care about the uke but it mostly shows before, during, and after sex. I think both the seme’s ex and the uke deserve better than dating 2 very closeted guys who dont make up the slack in private for what they are to scared to show / lack in public. The seme’s went from being frustrated and tired of his downlow weaker bf to crying/ begging him not to break up with him in the extra. These didnt feel like lasting or balanced relationships. Less sex and more development would have helped this story fill out more.
I hate everybody in this story. Especially our “vengeful” uke “victim” who literally gets abused by everybody he comes across. He’s weak and pathetic and doesn't have an ounce of back bone or self preservation and frankly makes the stupidest decisions while being a cute little door mat and the actor guy is disturbed and violent. Manager uke hasn’t grown as a person from what we see in the constant flashbacks to where he is today as a manager secretly trying to get revenge on someone who in the PAST didn't do anything to him or his disturbed delusional abused mentally ill friend. Yet he reinvents his self to get revenge on psycho actor, why? because he didn't know she existed and oh wait he’s even helped you before in the past and even now so why do all this to begin with? But then the writer flips the script and has mr psycho actor abuse and rape mr manager uke repeatedly and again why??? This story is not sweet, loving or even entertaining. Its just an overly long drawn out story of messiness, bad decisions, and unnecessary violence. And art is really good too, what a waste.
Why didnt the lesbian couple ASK A SINGLE friend to donate? Who the hell asks this of someone in a relationship? Would they have been receptive if the situation was reversed? Would they be offended if cole or alex asked them to have an egg or borrow their wombs to carry each of their own fertilized eggs? Would they have even asked if alex was dating a girl? I HIGHLY DOUBT they would have. Its so disrespectiful that they would ask this of an unsingle person. They dont get a pass because theyre lesbian either, you dont ask a "couple" to help you have a baby. Alex has a partner - cole and his feelings on the subject need to be taken in account. Boundaries fucking matter. And the possibility of alex being around this kid and getting attached and having a role in this "possible future kid's" life matters too. Someone said they would be uncle cole and uncle alex but cole didnt sign up for that nor does he want that. I dont like cole at all, he has been the biggest and MAIN toxic factor in their relationship and frankly Alex should have dumped his crazy ass alongtime ago BUT cole is not wrong here and his feelings are very valid in this situation. Alex is looking at this in a very light manner and dismissed cole's barely expressed feelings. I think alex may resent cole now, and you cant blame him. Alex was patient, understanding, genuine, and faithful to cole only for cole to threaten his life, act like a basket case, cheat on him, and lie - you really cant be mad at him if he's salty now. They need a break from each other and some counseling mostly for cole and a few couples sessions for alex.
That was INDIFFERENCE.
When you no longer give a fuck, you're indifferent. Well done Uke, well done.
So the uke has been bestfriends with the seme his whole life, he realizes he has feelings for his friend then proceeds to #1. Start acting coldly toward him 2. Constantly slap his hands away whenever he touches him 3. Make him out to be a pervert when girls are interested in him 4. Lie to him 5. Avoid him...is that how you treat your bestfriend?...new weird guy comes into the picture and guess what? He's pushy- first time inviting the uke in his room he did what? Got all touchy feely, uke doesnt get mad even tho he clearly doesnt have feelings for him, his seme bestfriend finally gets mad after the uke has been an asshole and is now CLEARLY jealous-reacts like a creep. He felt him up and talked in a jealous provactive way, but didnt attempt to or rape him. What he did was bad but not the worst thing.
If you like rapey smut with uke's saying "no" "stop" and "dont" the WHOLE time then this is for you. If you like a decent plot that actually makes sense to go WITH your smut then, this ain't for you. This was beyond stupid.
Its so sad mr yoon doesnt get a happy ending. He was an easily likeable character. His wife is trying to hold on so desperately to a man who doesnt love her, its both pitiful and pathetic. Im fine with soohan and mr yoon not ending up together but mr yoon deserved some happiness too! Being stuck with a woman like his wife seems rotten. He may have gotten his freedom from confinement but he's not free to live his life and be happy on HIS terms. Like damn he lost his mother, lover, his revenge, his home and is stuck with this heffa he don't want. If his wife was REAL woman she would have set him free after helping him and developed some PRIDE and told herself she doesnt need a man who doesnt like her and will never love her. Why waste your life and beauty in such a way? How great would it have been if she would have chosen her OWN happiness rather than settling into being a spiteful pathetic bitch wallowing in her self induced pain bemoaning the fact that he wont love her.
This uke is a whole ass baby. The seme been pulling him along this entire story. There's barely any progress between the two and im not talking about sex. And now we're here. I feel bad for the seme. Cant see why he would like the uke, he's been trying SOOOO hard, too hard at times and now he's dealt another blow from this lil weanie.
I get that he is being difficult but how about a bit of empathy. He is starting in a whole new place with someone that has a personality opposite to his, while knowing full well that he won't be staying more than a year. To me it sounds like enough to worry or even scare anyone...
Lmao this right here is the plot of almost every wholesome yaoi that DOESN'T have rape, so I'm really curious why you would have that reaction even though you're right
I get what you are trying to say but i disagree. Yes that can scare SOME people especially socially awkward ones like the uke but he literally would not have had any of t positive experiences since his move if not for the seme - no friends, no fun, nothing. The seme has been giving and giving and the uke is just taking WITHOUT making an effort. He reluctantly goes along with the seme rather than things seeming like he actually wants to go along. Throwing up empathy seems like "ok lets feel sorry for him" and give him a pass. Which readers always want to do with ukes that are depicted as weak. He agreed to a relationship knowing all of his circumstances. He made that decision. The seme wants to be happy and the uke is not letting them progress. The dynamic is too onesided. The uke is NOT ready for sex, so the seme pressuring him I think is the wrong direction especially since the uke has very little "give" for them to even make it to being just at a comfortable place in their relationship. And now he just blows up rather than actually communicating. I hope the seme wont go running behind the uke to do ALL the work to fix it. But he probably will.
Yes this may be common but we don't know what direction a story is going exactly until it's revealed. So i had tiny hopes but this chapter just didnt deliver any progress. Hence the virtual eye roll that my comment basically was.
Nah. Chowon is a dominate omega whose rich, very arrogant, pretentious, spoiled and treats people like shit. He's rude, demanding, and dismissive of people. He's even nasty to babies, TO BABIES!?! He didnt get that garbage personality from mental illness. What he did get from mental illness is his severe possessiveness over his ex that leads him to irrational bouts of jealousy that makes him do violent things and the clear lack of responsibilty he feels about it. He's not sorry because he doesnt think he did anything wrong, his ex is his and he defended whats his and now he's waiting to act out again- in his fractured mind He's basically one step away from a walking fatal attraction and he doesnt even know it - Thats where the mental illness part kicks in. But thats not the whole of him or his personality and just as a person NOT including his mental issues he's still a piece of shit （￣へ￣）
I dont care about Chowon's personality or his previous mistakes. But I cant forgive his almost rape of another uke. Rapist shouldn't be forgiven.
Yeah i know i personally couldnt forgive that. Rape, Thats not something you accidently do, you make a decision to do it. Thats just another aspect of why he's a piece of shit.
exactly! mental illness does not excuse his behavior
The sketchy friend, the omega brother telling his brother that something is up which is not wrong because that scene looked sketchy af and as family if he sees something wrong HE SHOULD give a heads up. The omega soon to be beta is the wrong one. He is the one being secretive about something BIG and not communicating. Your body is changing, how long do you think you can hide that stupid? And he keeps letting his friend act a bit to intimately with him, boundaries where are they? This omega beta is literally lying and hiding from his husband about stuff that affects both of them and their relationship and YET EVERYONE ELSE is the problem? Really? How silly.
I don’t think you realise how big of a dealbreaker kids can be in a relationship. While I agree that he shouldn’t play victim and that he should just fess up to what he knows about his body changing.. he’s scared that although his partner loves him, they won’t have a bonded connection anymore and they won’t be able to have kids anymore and he’s worried that the partner will resent him for using the collar in the first place. He’s confused and rn his body is going through huge changes as you said. That means lots of hormones. He’s confused and scared and his partner is pretending not to notice. The friend annoys me and I hate him but he’s right. The partner SHOULD have known and SHOULD have brought it up to force the convo to happen. Waiting for a scared person to open up will take forever and sometimes they don’t open up until it’s thrown back in their face with the proof. Sometimes, pushing them to speak up is what’s needed. He said he will tell him but he just doesn’t know how to talk about the fact they can’t have kids anymore to someone who has been planning the rest of their future WITH KIDS! That’s such a huge thing to drop on someone. Especially someone who loves kids as much as the seme does. You can’t actually blame the uke for being terrified and hiding it. He JUST got his husband back and he JUST found out that his husband had loved him all along and was just being a bad husband for nonsense reasons. He’s scared that he will go back to that or worse. That’s totally normal and I’d actually be more concerned if he wasn’t freaking out.
I agree with you but this turning back thing is ukes fault for wearing a stupid collar for not communicating with seme about the nature of their relationship before the marriage anyway,the seme is a better man than me because I would leave this guy as soon as he started wearing that collar and not respecting me and didn't talk his problems but let me guess what was wrong like i had any fault for it in the first place,he acts like a brat again and again everything you mentioned about changes being scary is also can be applied to the alpha so I can not fathom how he is in any way wrong in this for pretending not to notice what's going on?
Dont assume what I realize
This. Agree, whole heartedly. But I still think the MC is in the more in the wrong (honestly both MC and ML have problems).
It's totally ok for MC to be wanting to take some time before letting the ML know about his body. It is such a HUGE change that he is going through (for the frikin 2nd time, like srsly my heart breaks for him). But if I found out that some random dude (eg glasses guy) knows about my partner's HUGE problem and not me...... I would be hurt. ON TOP of that MC doesn't seem to have proper boundaries up with the glasses dude either.
And honestly it's not feasible to keep thinking, "ML should have known". The guy just recently told MC that he loves him wholeheartedly, and MC is showing all the love and affection towards him. It would be weirder to think ML would randomly corner the MC to fess up. The relationship right now is so fragile, if he were to force smt again, what's to say the MC won't do the same thing as before and just say he wants a divorce?
Yah all in all everyone is in the wrong one way or another. But I still think the more important thing is that I would like MC to keep his distance with glasses guy. MC is probably at the most vulnerable now with all the changes in his body so feel for him so much.
My heart can't take all this angst
I agree that boundaries should be set and I’m pissed at both of them for not being more respectful of ML and MC relationship. That being said, he was right. Alphas can smell omegas. If his partner was changing, he’d be able to smell the change in pheromones from pungent to non existent. Alphas have been known to smell pregnancy so it’s not a stretch to say that he would have known. As far as cornering him goes, I leave that to the alpha because once again, he left uke wondering all this time about whether he was actually loved or if this was just a marriage of convenience. In the ukes eyes, he’d rather unburden the alpha so he can find a better mate than technically a “fake omega” because that’s what he seems to view himself as: a half baked omega. Him communicating the issue to the alpha would have broken up their friendship and on top of that, when was he supposed to have brought it up? When did they talk to each other for him to feel comfortable bringing it up? My ex used to make it clear that he wasn’t going to support me in any way or comfort me halfway through our relationship so I just stopped talking to him about things I needed support or comfort from. He was great for everything else except this (until he wasn’t even great for everything else and I broke up with him). My point is that when you love someone, sometimes you feel like you can’t disappoint them so you hide your feelings and your issues. When a partner hasn’t proven to be trustworthy and emotionally supportive, you don’t want to risk being vulnerable and potentially getting hurt. It’s not the alphas fault necessarily but if you’re and AxO couple and the only thing the alpha does with omega is sex and then no conversation and no dates.. omega is gonna feel like a breeding cow. Both of them were responsible for the collar incident. They both should have taken steps to prevent this from happening but had the alpha not been so closed off and left a line out just in case the omega wanted to talk to him, maybe something would be different. Maybe not. But the day the omega changed from beta to omega was the day he was marked by alpha. He was going through so many changes and thought that maybe he’d get comfort and support and guidance from the one who’s been at it longer. That’s not necessarily an unfounded assumption. His logic made sense and the fact that he went that long without his alpha properly supporting his marked omega without absolutely losing his mind is remarkable. Omegas are unstable. That’s by design. Alphas are meant to take care of omegas. That’s also by design. To expect something outside of the realm of what has already been predetermined.. that’s not gonna work out great. If this was real life, both would be 100% at fault and it would be an everyone sucks here situation but in this case, where their universe has its own set of rules and cosmic laws, you just need to follow it’s own rules and laws. It’s in the same way that you can’t apply irl laws and logic to daganrompa because that universe also has its own rules and logic. I think a lot of people look at ABO through irl eyes and not au eyes and that’s where the divide is.
It’s not really an assumption. It’s an educated guess but I’m not assuming you don’t know it. If I’m assuming anything, it’s that you’re viewing ABO as though irl rules and cosmic laws apply when in reality, ABO has its own set of rules of who’s responsible for what and how their whole lifestyle works. You’re not fighting your case or trying to explain why you view it that way, you’re just saying “don’t assume”. That’s not doing anything other than making a statement. You’re not actually going to change my mind or make me view this differently. And to me, saying a statement like that feels very much like when kids say “your mum” when they feel cornered in a disagreement of opinions to try to end the discussion without actually ending it or making any follow up points. We can always agree to disagree or try to convince each other or just agree to drop the whole discussion but if you post something publicly, expect feedback that might not align with your own views.
Oh, 100%, like I said before, I agree that it's hard for MC to bring up this problem. I also know that alpha's can tell about the partner depending on their pheromones, but isnt that only during their heat? Like, it's not like the omega is constantly giving off pheromones every day?? I might be wrong. Maybe that's why he can't really tell something is wrong yet?
But yah, totally understand the MC's perspective, just don't like the boundaries that he hasn't set. That's all.
Omegas give off pheromones 24/7. So do alphas. During heat, they give off “fuck me” vibes and that’s what drives the alphas crazy. Those are the pheromones you’re thinking of. In actuality, all animals use pheromones. Even humans. We just can’t smell it and discern what it means anymore. Pheromones tell us about emotional state, physical state and communicate a lot about intentions and thoughts that words just don’t. Males and females respectively smell different and that’s how animals know between each other (with the exception of some animals who trick other males into believing they are female so that they can mate with the females by hanging around them) which sex they belong to. The concept for ABO pheromones are simply just taken from nature itself. It’s just dramatised. So alpha mates can 100% tell the emotional state by scent and can also tell all states. This is where the dominant vs recessive comes in. Recessive is like normal humans who can’t discern the differences. Dominant is like let’s say cats and dogs where their entire livelihood is dependent on pheromone detection of other animals. This is also why people want dominant genes to be prioritised because in the wild, that’s how they survive. Even the “tall, dark and handsome” attraction type that everyone says they like is actually founded in science that they have more testosterone and that our bodies can pick it up as pheromones and therefore tell our bodies that their genes are superior and our children will survive better with those genes. Learning a lot about psychology and how it related to animal behaviour and ecology is actually pretty interesting because a lot of the things we do is pretty much just what’s already in nature and we had no idea that we were technically just copying it. But ABO rules follow parallel to the rules in the animal kingdom. Even heat and rut is in relation to animals like dogs and cats. It might even be why bottoms are called nekos and why you see them “sticking their butt up” or rolling onto their back and spreading their legs. Cats do that in heat. The more you know.