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And the people saying “well, he already agreed for this not to be a romantic relationship” then tf is he getting upset for when karlyle didn’t confess?? Like that’s so shitty it made it seem like he wanted to be the one in power by having karlyle confess and then reject him and that he upset cuz he didn’t like the fact that HE was the one who got rejected.
Also he DID lead karlyle on. treating your temporary partne right” and the things ash did are so not like each other. Ash’s actions were so misleading, if he didn’t want a romantic relationship he should’ve never did any of this shit

Same i m still feeling icky about that and the spoilers from the novel didn't improve my already negative view on the ml

They definitely do lmaoo

Like you can ask anyone how it feels like to have sex with a big dick and they’ll be like nahhhh this shit sucks ass it usually just hurts and that’s like with the sizes of real life dicks like the ukes ones so imagine how it feels to have sex with THAT imagine the size of your literal forearm being shoved up you ass I would start crying and pissing myself

I feel like one author did it and now theyre all like oh yeah that IS the normal sizes of a normal seme’s dick

I don’t normally care but idk why I feel soooo bad for yohan maybe that’s why I get the urge to say BACK OFF LEAVE MY BABY ALONE

If jay did leave him alone he would have died (=・ω・=) yoohan doesn't want it because he's so guilty he thinks he doesn't deserve any sense of pleasure and jay forces his love on him so yoohan could want to live again and let go of his guilt. Their relationship is not just a forceful thing and has a big depth to it. You can keep reading the manhwa or read the novel cause the novel explains their complicated lives pretty nicely and shows that their emotions aren't just some shallow attraction but a NEED for each other. Their relationships aren't as simple as some basic "boyfriends" thingy and they don't even establish a defined relationship later anyway because they don't need something like that. You can see that they love each other in such a deep way in the second and third book and that they would lose everything just to be together. You should judge him later when the story actually explains everything and why he did these things.

I mean, hey I’m just sharing my opinion as of the latest chapters but I don’t think forcing your love, and forcing your self physically on someone are the same thing

In this case, yoohan doesn't care about anything anymore so even if jay said he loved him or cared for him yoohan wouldn't give two shit's about it because he's so numb. Jay forces him to feel something by touching him and gives him pleasure. Yoohan did ask for sex five years ago because he was so full inside but couldn't let himself go so he needed pain to just cry it out and feel alive. It's the same mindset but with pleasure instead. He needs yoohan to return to reality and realize he actually wants to live but yoohan wouldn't accept it if jay asked so he forces it. SPOILER: he refuses jay more when he realizes he actually loves jay and doesn't think he deserves such emotions other than pain and misery. He does accept jay and call for him to make him cry because he can't cry alone and ask jay to make him feel pain. Jay does act rough with him to make him cry and later they have a real normal sex.


Oh btw of course share your opinions we're having a discussion if there wasn't opinions then there wouldn't be discussions haha

I love this manga I really do I feel so validated literally nobody ever talks about these conflicting feelings they’re so personal and you wouldn’t get it if you didn’t experience it. When shiraki said “this is my burden give it back to me” I couldn’t stop crying because I know the feeling. I stopped opening up to people because of this. Seeing them crying over me made me feel dull and awkward it’s a hard thing to explain but this is mine. It’s really weird but I didn’t want anyone interfering I don’t even feel comfortable when they shit talk them cause this is my journey this is my relationship with them of course I would’ve loved for someone to save back when things were horrible but right now after things became better I need to heal alone I don’t want people getting sad over me when I got over it it makes me feel weird and uncomfortable idk idk

I think it's worth mentioning that different people process their traumas in different ways. It's not the same for everyone. Some people can't forgive their abusers and they are absolutely fine and valid. Some people heal by moving and forgiving, that's also fine. I went through similar things, and people always act like we must forgive our abusers to move on, that we can't move on by hating all the pain that they have inflicted on their victims and that baffles me. Everyone's experiences and their way of dealing with trauma is valid and real.

I agree and think so too. Everyone’s way of healing is different which is why I didn’t like people dismissing his way of healing and forcing their own opinion on what they think trauma survivors should do to their abusers. It’s okay to hate them and report them to the police and it’s also okay to just live with it as long as you have boundaries and have broken free from the abuse. I just wanted to explain why people who haven’t experienced this may view shiraki’s conclusion as weird, confusing or unrealistic .

Ooohhh u can't even imagine who is going to kill the fucker, it made me so damn happy.

YAASSSS I CAN’T WAIT FOR IT

Addressed by who and how? It was literally acknowledged as weird and wrong in the manhua

Eg. Wang yi getting taken by police (comical), wang yi constantly telling himself to stop and literally him saying that theres something wrong with him.

But fr its probably an excuse cause they keep doing it . Like lolicons saying lolis are legal cause they are actually "300 years old"

nah cuz it’s insane that they keep focusing more on the part of him being a “psychopath” and getting turned on by hurting people which is one thing but him getting turned on by hurting a CHILD IS ON A COMPLETE ANOTHER LEVEL