I'm not crazy about the level of rape and abuse in this story, but it doesn't mean I don't respect the author's art and storyline. I've been stating my opinion and it's exactly that, my opinion. I'm definitely going to continue to follow this because I'm truly interested in how this will turn around and I am a fan of the beautiful artwork. I'm sorry, but when I read someone's comment stating that by raping the uke the seme is actually helping him, I can't seem to keep my comments to myself. I'm not telling anyone that this isn't worth the read, bedsides the violence, this may actually have a deeper more interesting storyline.
I've read a lot of yaoi where the relationship starts off with either blackmail or rape, usually both. This one however began with one of the most violent rape scenes I've seen to date, and each subsequent encounter was just as bad if not worse with the seme walking away satisfied that he had humiliated and physically hurt his "victim". The only thing lacking was him actually spitting in the ukes face, well I guess he kinda metaphorically did when he left him sprawled over the toilet and said "that felt good" as he walked away without a backward glance at the mess he left him in. I just cannot accept that this is going to turn into a "I love you regardless of how much you've hurt me, because your past trauma justifies the pain and degradation you put me through". I don't care if he's discovered that anal sex can be amazing, that discovery can also be made in less painful and traumatic ways. I've read stories where the rapist repents and love does grow from initial mistakes, it's yaoi, I'm not that naive. If this turns into a forgiveness and I love you no matter how horrid you treated me story, I might actually explode. For once, please let the uke forgive him because he understands the seme is psychologically effed up, but let him walk away.
Yeah, just let me grab my rose colored glasses and I'll be right there with you. Its always been my experience that lovers start off by trying wrists together to prevent escape, and then taping your mouth shut so you can't cry out for help. Yeah, they're lovers, how could I have missed that. Oh, and that part where he says he loves to teach "guys like you a lesson" and "I guess I don't have to go easy on you" and then proceeds to ram it painfully in is just another aspect of true love I'm unaware of. Thanks for enlightening me.
Lol, obviously you, for some reason want the relationship between these two to work out in some fashion or another. Do you realize that the correction you made to my "misquote" was actually worse than what I said. Did you go back and review that chapter and after doing so can actually believe that this is the beginning of a healthy and loving relationship? I am in no way telling you that you have to believe as I do, but I am truly flabbergasted that you can defend the actions of the seme and accuse me of looking at them through a "hate hazed helmet", are you just arguing for the sake of arguing or do you truly believe what you're saying. I think you and I will never come close to agreeing on any point regarding this story, and that's all it is, a story, make believe, cruel as it is it's still just fiction. One does have to wonder though, if you think cruelty in fiction such as this is okay as a prelude to love, what are you willing to accept. Oh and you're welcome as well.
No, man, I just thought it was a cool phrase (plus I've read this several times)
hmm. I like this comment. I actually hate violence. I don't mind rape LOL
I like the story, art, funny parts, LeeKang's amazing bod, and now we know he's a fabulous cook, that it has baseball ,and that Junho throws a hellofa fastball. (Did you notice the penis in the middle of all that blood. fuck my life. I don't want that to happen!) I hate violence!
Well, yeah, rape at the beginning makes the love so much more rewarding. LOL Thanks for asking. I love you, too.
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Do you even read what you write, I, like you, will probably follow this story to the end because I've got to to see how the author will turn this into a love/redemption story. I think I see where you're at now, the seme is definitely hot, no doubt, and you want him to be happy because you're feeling those eyes and thighs. But, "rape at the beginning makes the love so much more rewarding", I truly hope you said that just to get a reaction, because if that's how you really feel I predict lots and lots of pain and therapy in your future. For the record, I didn't ask (no clue what you're talking about there) and you can keep your love, I like a little kink like the next guy but you are definitely too far gone for me.
This has got to be one of my all time favorites, it's got a little of everything from comedy to romance with a little drama thrown in for good measure. I look forward to the updates as I could read about these two and hope that it never ends. I saw a little debate about the use of condoms, I thought everyone knew that at the onset of a relationship the use of condoms were a "no brainer". I know that as a relationship progresses and you're sure of absolute fidelity (whether it be marriage or commitment of any sort) then condoms may not be as important, but if you're not sure that you're the only one they're having sex with, then sex without out them can be akin to playing russian roulette. Just my opinion.
This certainly explains a lot, not all, but more than I was thinking. So the guy they (?) have to refer to as Dad is in actuality a pedophilic pimp. He's possibly taken seven and eight in for just that purpose, possibly under the guise of saving them but more to use them as money makers. Does kind of make me wonder if there was a one through six and what might have happened to them. This does show you how this kind of forced life can warp a kids mind, ie the episode with the bugs. So eight was "living" in the park as part of his plan to escape his "life" and start over, he then meets the perfect guy but as fate would have it his past won't let him go. I really (of course) want this to end well but just as in real life we don't always get what we want. I hope this gets uploaded to the end as I'm now really invested in how the author will make this work out, either good or bad. Sorry for the ramble but I think it was to clarify things in my mind as well as making a statement.
This story is driving me crazy, per the "laws of yaoi" (lol) I know the seme is gonna have some sob backstory that explains his behaviour. I'm just having a hard time imagining what could justify his cruel, no vicious treatment of our uke. His actions go beyond what "I've" seen from a seme that initially rapes the guy he falls for, to unforgivable acts of cruelty and violence. I just dont see in this case how it can be forgiven and all he's done be transferred to feelings of love, don't get me wrong, I'm sure it'll happen, but I'm really curious how the author is gonna twist this one towards the good. I'm not gonna harp on the rape aspect, it's yaoi, not condoning the act in actual life, just enough of a realist to know it's part of the yaoi world. I'll continue to read because I'm truly curious how this is gonna turn out, but I've got a good idea what's gonna happen and for once I'm wishing it wouldn't. Just my opinion.
I am totally with u here. This is interesting if we go by yaoi ways. I am looking forward to the twist and turns. We read rapes everyday in yaoi right? Idk why everyone reads it when they know its rape and comment they hate it. I mean the tags r mentioned. Going by the story I also wanna know how this turns out. Well for the first time in yaoi we have a real rapist seme. Other semes r like one time dudes turning good afterwards. So I am particularly interested in this dude's character and his story. Lol.
Finally a comment I can agree with. Everyone is just dropping it just because of the rape but I agree with what you said: "it's yaoi, not condoning the act in actual life, just enough of a realist to know it's part of the yaoi world."
Everyone is here all angry about the rape but they've probably read Killing Stalking and not have dropped it because it was interesting as well and there was hype for it. I hope they look through the rape scenes and actually look at the potential for this manhwa. I think the author has gone in a different direction than other creators and that is very brave of them and makes the story quite interesting.
I'm curious as to see how it'll turn out.
Looking at my closest friend, wanting to tell them why I was so down but knowing if I did I'd probably lose the one person I could depend on. I know this isnt the exact situation, but I can empathize with the feeling of being tired of hiding, of wanting to live up to others expectations, not wanting to hurt my loved ones versus my own happiness. It gets overwhelming and you begin to wonder if it's worth it, if you can spend your whole life hiding, never being able to tell that special person how you really feel. Sorry for the ramble but these last few chapters really hit home.
Thank you so much for the updates and we look forward to hearing from you in the future. I understand that it's hard work to do this and wanted you to know how much it's truly appreciated! Again, thank you.