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I have low blood pressure. But I'm pretty sure it just sky rocketed in a flash!

omg yeah

I agree, she apologized since 2017 to this day

Girl type with the caps off and put a tl;dr cus i ain’t readin all that shit in caps. She profits off her character design relating creepily similar to bts and draws the in sexual situations. And yes imma speak on this as a victim of having shit of me in a sexual situation spread around to multiple ppl without my consent. You wouldn’t like it if you were drawn having sex with ur best friend and having someone get paid for it. She hasn’t gotten better as a person bc she’s still drawing a comic based off real ppl having sex.

who is gonna read this bullshit comment please stop overreacting. she is a scammer and deserves to get dragged i dont know why you guys are defending her

Bruh the victim im talking abt are the ppl who were “scammed” This is why reading is important than just reading the end of a paragraph just for you to assumed what victim i was talking abt. And they (characters that modeled from bts) didn’t even have sex?? Are you even reading the comic? The author stated that ONLY the appearance were used. I ain’t defending her cos she came from the same country as me but i knew better what happened then when she was active as an artist and in sns, and when she started to fake her race or showing her problematic persona, etc. I didn’t even like her, but I gave a listen to what she and others have to say. If you don’t like her comic coz she drew them characters based on those idols’ faces, then don’t read it! Her art story is better and deep than those r-rated ff yall read anyways.

Who are you? Were you one of the victim? Or were you one of the fans who was hurt by her? Who are you?

she lied alot

her mother didnt sich ew

*sick she lied

she sexuallize idols

who are you actually? she lied to many ppl, even me

Lmao she lied about that too

She admitted that too. She admitted how she likes to lie a lot even to her friends but not anymore. Like she apologized so fucking many times. As much as she had hurt many, she herself was hurt. She’s healing, improving, and showing her better self. She didn’t even try to profit anything nor opening any commission after that cos that event traumatized her then. She apologized, and had learned from it.

just because you aren't the victim doesnt mean you can justify her action bruh. stop wasting your energy to defend her

And let those ppl saying false rumors abt her? Tossing aside the fact she admitted all her wrong doings, learned from it, improving as a person and an artist?? You want to hurt someone who already tried her best to be better and for moving on?

i don't justify the things that people still not wanting to move on from her action, but the previous comment of yours about "who are you? are you being scammed" it feels wrong. And about the mistakes, she didn't fix it, she just left it. My friends were scammed too and even the money didn't get refunded.

And? Who doesn’t even know that? You guys are rly a joke for closing your eyes. Look, she already apologized so many times, learned and moving on. She did what she can do to repay the ppl who were “scammed” by her did she repeat what she did even now?

what false rumor? if it false it won't be publish in news. try search her case in indonesian news:)

I said dat coz some ppl really just used any lil things to hate on ppl? Why can’t i ask that? If s/he was a victim i would have listen to what s/he has to say on this matter. I’m not a fool who’d side someone just because i like them. I like it when i can see and hear what they can say in this argument. I may sound biased but in this discussion this is where i stand

About sexualizing idols, first u know fanarts exist right? Second she’s visualizing the characters after the idols and if they have sex then ofc they still gonna look like the idols, it’s not like the characters change faces while having sex (weird if they did ngl) also I got my refund around 2 years ago go just contact her on her Facebook group

My bad I phrased it wrong. What she did was true but not all of it. I saw some ppl would say ridiculous things abt her last year when she made a statement and apology

I appreciate your argument and i agree. At least you're neutral and didn't justify her action. Keep your statement clear and calm.

Ik your point and I understand it wholly, but ik there’ll be no end to dis topic. As much as I don’t like it when ppl sexualize idol too much, what the author did is yet to cross the line, this is just from my perspective, coz from what i see it is normal in this community to make fa and ff based off idols, even the ones with r-rated. She only used their faces as references, not them as ppl. Even If the looks are similar they’re two different ppl, different personalities and names. Her story isn’t even abt lust, she make it so her comic to have deeper meaning. I’m looking at it as whole not just cos of the art. The former matter im speaking abt is a fact that i need to tell people but our arguments in this topic isn’t something u or me can determine the clear line

She has a PATREON where she has the characters in nsfw scenes. She is taking literal faces off real people and putting them into sexual acts. It matters that the appearance is used because she’s drawing them in nsfw scenes. She could’ve redesigned the characters so that they didn’t completely look like them after ppl told her how similar they looked. You don’t fucking get the right to draw two people you like in a sexual scene together. It’s gross

It’s weird that she’s drawing two idols even having sex together. Literally imagine someone drawing you and your best friend having sex. Get your morales straight

Yeah she does have Patreon. But last year for a long time she didn’t accept any commission cos that rly traumatized her. And i’ll say again, in this community it is normal to make fa and ff abt idols, and so many nsfw works based from those idols, yet ppl still like it? There’s no clear line in this matter except if ppl in general will stop to make fa ffs that’s sexualize them. There’ll be ppl who are opposed of it and there’ll ppl who don’t. I also don’t like it when someone is going too far with their art when they’re using irl ppl as references, but characters in her comic are different from the real model, she mentioned even if the looks are similar her characters are their own ppl not the same as the real model

Please calm down first and in the Kpop community it goes so far that nsfw, even porn of people just looking like the idols are on Twitter, so I was like yeah it wasn’t a big deal what she did, also she clearly said that the visuals are based of the idols and it’s her decision to change it or not and what do you want her to do? change faces when the characters are doing the dirty and having normal faces when they don’t do it? It’s kinda weird yk and I get why ur mad but as someone who has been on ships Twitter it’s actually pretty norma, actually there are fanart, fanedits and fanfiction rules, so If u don’t show it to the idol directly I don’t think that’s a big deal (fans are taking the rule very strictly, one time someone postet Jikook nsfw edits on weverse and armys reported it so that Bts couldnt See it) the author also said multiple times to keep the webtoon to the fandom and to not share it on Weverse, twitter or platforms idols are active on, u actually have to expect those fanarts in big fandoms

Making nsfw of any real people is wrong. You’re only ok with it because it’s not you. Whether or not they are best friends it’s someone they know and work with. Letting this slide and ignoring it is exactly what normalizes it. “Oh idc it’s normal and this should be expected in every fandom” is what let’s people do whatever they want. And all communities have bad ppl don’t generalize a whole group

I’m just saying that people in the fandom do this and what do you want to write when the most people in the fandom are shippers? And as I said it’s not like they are showing it directly to the idol, most artist are hiding it and also the fandom is keeping it to themself? And the thing here is, the author is just using the visual of the idols, not the character or background story

She’s hiding it because she knows it wrong lmfao. I ain’t gonna argue with you anymore just say you accept the fetishization of gay men. Fan arts are great when they don’t specialize the idols with literal sex scenes between the members.

The author doesn’t even use the character?! and lmao I don’t but it’s so common in the fandom and I’ve been in the Army fandom for more than 7 years And in the Kpop fandom for 10 years, it became normal for me and there are fanart/edit RULES (as I said)

It became normal for you to sexualize real people yeah ok bye. Just because it’s common doesn’t mean it’s right. I sure think you love sexualizing and fetishizing gay men. Enjoy it cus u literally won’t stop justifying it

Just like how ppl in this era started to generalize lgbtq+ tho some countries aren’t, this is just exactly what happened in this community.

What i mean by this statement is that when something subjective like this is brought only when the society decides which one is true and false. Bcoz so many ppl in the fandom likes to ship, fantasizing their idols, it has become something you’d normally see.

But just like the person above said, as long as the idol don’t find out it’s ok (in the eyes of fans) bcoz u don’t want to hurt their feelings right? Tho it’s not right, as long as we don’t bring harm to them or for going too far, objectively it’s fine.

Keep screaming that what the author did was hella wrong but u gotta know this one fact : anything that is subjective, can/will only be judged by the ppl and only when the other has the most voices will they be the rule or the norm (ugh it’s so late here I dunno if my writing is readable)

U know that yaoi is actually originally made to sexualize gay men right? And here we are, I don’t sexualize my idols, bruh I don’t even read or watch nsfw things about them since I don’t have any ships, what I’m saying is that everyone is keeping in it the fandom and in the fandom only. People know that’s not right but where is the point of hating on them? tausend of those artist exist, will you hate on all of them? If yes good luck then.

And I actually started this Argumentation with you since u said that the author was sexualizing and shipping the idols, she may do, but if you compare hers to the fanarts u can see that actual shipping fanarts and edits are ore sexual and they use the idols names, the author is using the visuals and if u read the webtoon u can see differences in the personality and background story of the characters and idols.

Lmfao. Ima guy and I’m perfectly fine with girls reading yaoi cus it’s fictional and some people know how to separate the real world from that. What’s not ok is putting two REAL people into a relationship and sexualizing that. Those are the people like you and THATS where fetishization comes in. If you can’t see that literally taking two peoples faces and profiting of one of the biggest ships in the bts fandom by drawing them literally in nsfw scenes togethrr. Like Ive said dozens of times before it doesn’t matter if their personalities and backgrounds are different THE FACT THAT SHE USES THEIR VISUALS AND DRAWS THE IDOLS SEXUALLY IS FUCKING WRONG. You just can’t get it through your damn fucking head because you like fetishizing us

Lmao them thinking as long as the idol doesn’t find out makes it ok literally is just them saying we’re gonna fetishize gay men. Do you hear yourself rn. Let’s say someone spreads your nudes around to the whole school. But nah it’s fine as long as you don’t find out or bring you into it. What’s wrong is that so many people normally sexualize the ship. It would’ve been fine if y’all shipped it in a cutesy way but nah y’all literally sexualize it. Literally imagine bts seeing how y’all defend using their faces for a yaoi and Lmao where did I scream that was u This is why dan and Phil took took so long to come out bc ppl were literally sexualizing their relationship 24/7. Y’all just love fetishizing two men in a relationship. Glad y’all think it’s normal....

First of all I’m transgender hello I was a guy before and bruh ur hating on the author bc she uses the faces? She have been telling her viewers that she uses the faces, the visuals. The story is different from the idols lives and maybe she sucks at designing characters? She added the dirty bc guess what, people do have sex, it’s very common yk, I’m not saying that it’s right to sexualize idols, but it’s always been like that and at some point hiding it is better than leaving in unhidden (that’s what many non shippers think to me included) and u shouldn’t hate on the author so much, what she is doing is nothing compared to ffs, nsfw videos on Twitter or fan comics and fr many people who write books, comics, webtoons are taking the visuals of idols, celebs, influencers. I’m waiting for u to find and hate on actual fanfictions and webtoons and comics with the actual ship included.

Being trans still does not give you the card to let ppl sexualize two men in a relationship together hello

I’ve been comfortable with being a dude for over so many years until half a year ago, I was gay and I felt like man too, the reason why I’m transgender now is more complex and I had to go to multiple therapists for a long time to figure out myself, I’ve been a man almost my whole life, the reason why I said I was a man before is bc u said I shouldn’t sexualize u guys, but guess what I never sexualize gay men bc I WAS the gay man

Still does not give u the right to allow ppl to sexualize two men hello. Hell it could be a straight relationship and it still wouldn’t be right. Literally justifying drawing real ppl like this ain’t right bye

?? U dumb?? I said as long as we’re NOT going too far and not bringing HARM to them verbally/physically/mentally.

Let’s say what you mentioned is right then all of the ppl who made fan arts and fan fictions should be guilty for what they did, they should be labeled as “criminal” (i forgot the other word) for drawing or writing such thing.

I mean, so many revealing and nfsw of arts and writings, why don’t you also scold them for doing such thing? Maybe the society would realize what they did is wrong then we’ll stop to have those freaking adult fanfics that sexualize the members. No, In the first place we all shouldn’t fantasizing idols. Coz from fantasizing idols leading to the making of fanarts and fanfics which is so wrong! Ugh!
Isn’t that right? Isn’t that what u mean?

The author herself only used the faces it’s not like she’s using their real identity/bg, and the ppl in her comic are different from irl ppl.
Oh also so many artists and animators using irl ppl as their model.

Oh, how we should have just make a law to ban ppl from doing fanarts and fanfics, eventually everyone can be happy.

First of all, u told me that I sexualize gay men and I just stated that I don’t.

second of all if u want to ban everything sexual about idols, than everyone in the fandom is sexualizing the idols, not just idol with idol but also them and the idol, u can’t avoid such a thing, ignore it and let the fans do their thing (as long as they don’t mistreat the rules), walk around it, do ur thing, I’m not saying it’s right but I’m saying that the whole Kpop industry is build like that, it’s not just about the songs and talent (sadly) the look goes with it and the whole industry knows it, which leads to many idols pulling of a sexy theme, and that’s where we (atleast I) can see that sexual things are really common in Kpop (or in other music genres too)


Also I talked about the author at first, so please focus more on not hating on everyone who writes fanfics, does fanart and fanedits or webtoons (even tho this author isn’t even using the actual ship) (●'◡'●)ﾉ

Lmao I call out everyone who sexualizes idols. Are you dumb?? You literally justify yourselves saying it’s ok to use the faces cus they’re not their real identities. Literally if someone used your face and profited off drawing you in sexual scenarios you would be pissed.

It’s visualizing, the whole point is that the character sort of looks like the idols (and I’m pretty sure idols are used to people using their faces (not just in this webtoon))

And what do u want us to do? ban every fanart? hating on them recklessly? Hating is okay?

Normalizing shipping culture is okay?? Specializing other people is okay?? Fan arts exist and get called out all the time. This is a whole fucking series of fan art

Shipping has been normalized all the time, it goes with the Kpop culture, even entertainment are using ships to promote

Yeah but making a whole webcomic off of it and benefitting from drawing the appearances of real ppl having sex. I literally can’t argue on this anymore since you obviously won’t stop justifying it. Literally being a decent person and not sexualizing someone isn’t that hard

Dude I don’t even sexualize the idols myself, what are u talking about? U started off by hating the author for using the faces and I defended her, getting readers and benefit from making ur characters looking like idols is the whole point. And fr dude u already said ‘bye’ like 3 times before, just go

Fr the only thing I would hate on is shipping minor idols with adult ones, but luckily I didn’t get to see anything of that sort

LGBT wants to be accepted for who they are? Not be fetishized by straight cis men and women. Most people who read yaoi most likely weren’t homophobic/transphobic to begin with. Literally the way ppl over fetishize ships in fandoms drives ppl who aren’t as accepting away from supporting us. And I’ve said before that I was fine with girls reading yaoi so long as real people aren’t being brought into it. But they literally are in this situation. Gay ppl literally always gets comments about who’s the top of the bottom and comparing us to characters from Yaois. And no it’s not right how kpop idols are being used like this to where they are overworked and some drives to suicide. Most kpop idols are forced to do stuff under their contract and I stopped being a kpop stan because of how they’re forced to do stuff and because of fetishization. And idols queerbaiting still leaves no excuse to go ahead and draw somebody having sex. Girls and guys can post themselves in revealing clothes but does that give anyone the green light to sexually harass them? Shippers do more harm than good. Everybody always harassed dan and Phil and abt their relationship. They took forever to come out until all the Phan shippers had died down because they were uncomfortable with it. Or how ppl are literally harassing horikoshi for gay representation in bnha not for the sake of lgbt ppl but for their ships. Literally seeing you say how benefitting it is to queerbait and ship guys together is so degrading and it makes me feel like people only like us as a fetish and not people who love other people. And I might be ok with yaoi but I can’t speak for all gay/bi men. Ik some who don’t like the idea of yaoi all together bc of how the stereotypes can be pushed onto real ppl. And now I probably agree with them that yaoi should die as a genre since you will let ppl do whatever they want with real ppl. Damn I really had some faith that ppl could separate real ppl from fiction but this is just a total let down.

I feel like I always have to repeat myself since It seem like u don’t read it all but just take something and make whatever u want, as I said (again) Kpop is built with ships, the entertainment would pull the members together to profit and promote their song and album, honestly I hate Entertainmentsystem but u can’t do anything so hating on it will get u nothing and if u want to get rid of all ships than good luck u won’t be able to do that, people would call Kpop gay bc they wear “feminine” clothes (clothes are for every gender but people think different) and that leads to shipping bc people assume they are gay, the industry use that to promote them even more (and that my love is how shipping was created) U can’t ban shippers, and (again) as long as they don’t show it to the idols I don’t feel like hating on them, about fetishising gay men, if people do that that’s bc something’s wrong with the PERSON, if people actually believe in top or bottom, than they are uneducated, yaoi and shipping does effect the way people thing of gays having sex, but it’s bc they are probably minors who never had sex before, artist won’t post nsfw stuff and show them to minors, no they block everyone under 18, most of the people who actually believe in top and bottom and nothing else are virgins or aren’t homosexual, artist tend to have switch fanarts too, not everyone is dumb yk.


I get why u don’t like the idea of sexualizing real people but u can’t avoid that, not in Kpop, it’s in then industry (in other industries too), the shipping is a part of promoting and well u can’t avoid it (not just gay shipping tho straights ships exist and entertainment would put them together to create rumors which promotes their songs even more) so ignore it, deal with it, or leave but hating on everyone gets u nothing, ur wasting ur time and I’m not even mad at u I get ur point but yk as someone who’s been in the fandom for a really really long time, I can say that u actually can do nothing

Trust me most minors do know how sex works. They aren’t clueless in it at all and most minors lie abt their age on the internet to get access to the 18+ works. Webtoons like this lets people believe this type of shit is normal and defend it like it’s morally right. Also many of the fans literally post the art under bts twitter so they can add to their fetish cult. They know what they’re doing when gay ppl have called them out for it and they won’t care anyways. Let me switch out some words for you. “ I get why you hate the sexual harassment/assault of women, but you can’t avoid that, not in real life, its in society. The over sexualization of women by men promotes the girls work, and well u can’t avoid it(not just men harassing women but girls harassing men too which promotes the entertainment actor even more) so ignore it, deal with it, or leave but hating on everyone gets u nothing, ur wasting ur time and I’m not even mad at u I get ur point but yk someone who’s been in the world of where women are r***** and sexualized I can say that you can actually do nothing” do you see the problem here? It’s a sit back I can’t do anything to prevent the sexual assault of women except to not do it myself and let others deal with it because it won’t ever be stopped and promotes the girls fanbase to grow bigger. Same with bts it’s a I can’t do anything about the fan arts or having people draw them having sex for profit without their consent because it’s normal, you’ll waste your time and it promotes the industry.

I think you need to look at the bigger picture?? For the people that do know it’s based off bts fetishize it? I’ve literally stopped being in the kpop fandom due to this kinda stuff. And putting the blame solely on management when it’s the fans that ship who make it into a bigger problem. This comic isn’t just uncomfortable it’s unethical to portray other humans that way. And it isn’t different to any other fan fics or art? Wattpad as a whole is unethical when they use real people, I mean ppl write nsfw of the cast from stranger things and they’re literally minors. But shipping is natural and the characters eleven and Mike are canon so they asked to be shipped and have written nsfw of them. You’re still thinking with that it’s not happening to me and everyone else does the same thing so why even try to make it stop. Just because most entertainment industries almost anywhere sexualizes the entertainment worker does not give other people the right to do the same. And people shipping the idols feeds deeper into management wanting to queerbait and specialize them more. Literally the same thing can be applied to r*** culture. The entertainment industry or even Tik tok sexualizes real minors. Hell I’ll use Danielle Cohn as an example. Her mother literally exploits her and tells her to wear revealing clothes and they get money off of it. Just because she does this doesn’t ever give anyone the right to comment sexually on her body or say the things they want to do to her. But “it’s going to happen anyway so you might as well just ignore it and deal with it or leave it alone” Just cus Danielle makes money off of it doesn’t mean she wants people to sexualize her because she’s literally told and brainwashed by her mother to do these things. Or Billie eilish. Anytime billie wears ANY type of revealing clothes ppl automatically assume she wants to be sexualized. She literally only wore a swimsuit and a tank top and guys made cum tributes to her on ph and even circulated a video around of someone who looked like Billie giving a bj claiming it to be her. But she asked for it right? Cus she wore those revealing clothes? When ppl get r***** it’s what were you wearing? Not, are you okay? Buts it’s normal and she profits from more people being exposed to her music so it’s justifiable and they can spread that video around more and claim it to be her. Bts openly queetbaits so they just must want us to ship them together and make fanfics fanart and lets just do a whole fan comic where I can get my rocks off to two REAL guys having sex together that have gave consent to us through queerbaiting. But oh no let’s keep it a secret so we can’t get sued. What a fuckinf joke. People sex traffic kids in secret but “it’s inevitable and as long as no one finds out we can keep this little secret to ourselves and hurt no one”

This is going off tangent? I’m literally talking about how people shouldn’t sexualize other people especially if it’s for their little fantasies. Yall brought up how management queerbaits and sexualizes their idols and I literally replied with how it’s not justifiable to sexualize someone. Yes I know management and antis treat idols horribly but we were on the topic of sexualizing bts and letting comics and fanmade stuff like this that sexualize them exist. And you can apply the misogyny to this comic as well that people believe tae is a feminine bottom and jungkook is a masculine top. It’s literally a omega verse using real people...You’re bringing another topic into how management treats their idols when I was talking about how idols or ANYONE shouldn’t be sexualized by fans. If anything YOU went off topic. I’m using analogies that refute the same idea of sexualization since y’all wanna defend that shipping and queer baiting offers more representation and acceptance for the lgbt community and that bts asks for this kinda stuff since they queerbait themselves. If anything we’re not even seen as normal people but fetishes. Straight ppl who ship this kinda stuff project it onto real people and that crosses the line.

This not only happens in kpop media but western media too. People shipped tf out of louis and Harry even still after louis having his kid. Louis even expressed his feelings on the fan art and fanfics made about them made their friendship awkward and that they didn’t even want to appear close to eachother anymore on camera. And people still gave no remorse and kept shipping it anyways. When you decide to make something it isn’t going to stay secret. “It’s good as long as they don’t see it” That’s what larry shippers thought and then they did see it and it made them uncomfortable and they still decided to do it

Fetishizing gay people gives no representation or more open arms for gay people. Seeing people apply ships to people who literally are straight is literally homophobic.

I’m not even talking about management here. I’m talking about fans CHOOSING and DECIDING to sexualize a real person. Don’t blame kpop management for people fetishizing a gay relationship. It’s literally not right for both the management or the fans to sexualize idols. BTS doesn’t even queerbait as much as other kpop groups. They literally act like friends. The reason they’re popular is because they don’t put on a show and vlogged alot of their stuff before they even were really popular. You can literally tell that they are close to eachother unlike other groups. And If anything one direction had more skinship with their friendships

Girl groups in kpop literally display the same friendships and skinship as bts. Not everything is queer baiting. BTS is more notorious for all the gay ships instead of any other kpop group that queerbait more.

Shippings started off with the entertainment promoting the idols thru relationships, that’s my point. Sexualizing idols has become normal bc of shipping

I honestly feel like talking to a child while talking to u, bc u don’t get the point, read by replies together, and I hope I get what I mean.

I didn’t get to answer ur reply about the minor stuff but no, virgins don’t actually know how sex works, they may know the basic sex things like sticking it in and out and cum afterwards, but nsfw, porn and even arts doesn’t show the real action, sex is different to every persin and someone who doesn’t experience it wouldn’t understand, about minors lying about their age, it’s not the artist or authors fault yk, so yeah go off

And about that thing with harassing woman, no u can’t avoid that bc our society is fucked up, men who rape woman are disgusting, it’s different than shipping, u can’t compare that with shipping bc as I said (again the 4th time) they’re shipping rules (u can compare a rapist with someone who goes agains the shipping rules but not with all shipper, shippers Wouldn’t show that to idols, I get that shippers have fantasies and it’s not right and again I don’t actually understand while they sexualize idols.
But u can’t compare rape to shipping, ur really dumb for doing that yk

And again since u don’t get it, the Kpop industry is built with shipping and idols looking erotic (especially woman since they know that would attract men) but again it’s he ENTERTAINMENT AND MANAGEMENT who is responsible for their clothing, looks and appearance over all. I mean just contact the entertainment if u want to, u can find their emails on their websites, good luck.

And when we are at it (I’m gonna repeat it again) the fact that ur commenting under this authors work, saying the shouldn’t use the face even tho she (and I) made it clear that she is using the VISUALS OF THE IDOLS, the whole point is to make the character LOOK like the idols and yes ur right, she is using the idols faces to get readers, but again that’s the whole point. But I still have to say, she started this webtoon October 2017 and I think she needed time to think of a story line and characters so let’s say she planned everything half a year before, BTS weren’t really in America that time, or at least not popular as now, and the webtoon is in English so koreans wouldn’t understand (unless they are good in English but Koreans would read webtoons in Korean) so many readers may not know about the characters looking like those stars (bc I talked about promoting and stuff before)

People find it a slur when straight and cis ppl use it they way they used faggot. Btw im literally fucking bisexual and can use homophobic slurs all I want. I will not touch on transphobic or lesbian slurs. I hope ur not one of those biphobic ppl that get mad at bi ppl using the word faggot and queer as if we weren’t also called those slurs. Cishets shouldn’t use the word. Some people reclaim the slur and others don’t and we respect others whether they want to or not. Bi ppl always get shit like ppl who are homophobic go easier on us cus we’re only “half gay”. and like I’ve said for the 5th time when anyone sexualizes themself it does not give anyone else the reason to take it as far as to draw them having sex with eachother.

I am also comparing how women get sexualized in the media. Did you miss up on literally how billie will wear one revealing thing and people spread shit about her giving a bj to a guy when the person in the video only kinda looked like her. Yea she wasn’t in the video but it still affects her with people imagining it to be her. So we’ll just ignore the fact ppl spread stuff around her like that because she wasn’t even in the video. Cus it’s bound to happen anyways since she dressed like that by your logic. This comic supports drawing real people having sex together AND ITS NOT FUCKING RIGHT. Talking to you about basic human respect is like talking to a wall. Stop blaming management and entertainment for other people deciding to sexualize someone. And minors literally watch porn all the fucking time. I’m literally a minor and so are most people on mangago. People knew what sex was once we entered middle school.

I know u guys are not talking with me but I don’t like slurs in general and some people in the LGBTQ community doesn’t like to use it at all (like me) I feel really uncomfortable with it haha (Pls try not to say slurs in this conversation again, I got some trauma so yeah)╥﹏╥ and blue is right (just wanna say that)

When did I say that? I literally said I respect if ppl don’t reclaim them but there are people that do reclaim them. Literally people in the community use queerbait to call out misrepresentation. Calling me rude for using a slur I was repeatedly called by other people and my own family? And y’all keep leading it off into management in the kpop community when I’m talking about fans sexualizing their idols without their consent.

News flash minors engage in sexual activity and will seek out sexual content. You really think we stay virginal and pure up until we’re 18. And I’m literally 17

However sexualizing another person is never right no matter what age you are and using their face to stimulate them having sex isn’t either. Author literally is a taekook shipper herself and this whole comic is a fetish of bts

Thanks for telling me that I won’t use the slur in this thread. I respect when ppl are uncomfortable around the slur and won’t say it then. But literally my lgbt friends and I are are comfortable using the slur but making someone feel guilty abt using it when they were literally harassed with the slur ain’t it

Ok here we go again :

SHIPPING
the entertainment and management promoting idols by putting then up in a SHIP —-> fans actually shipping the idols ——> shippers sexualizing those idols (by writing ffs, drawing, creating comics with sex in the plot)

SEXUALIZING ITSELF
the management gutting idols in erotic looks ——> idols being attractive/sexy ——> fans actually seeing idols as sex objects ——> fans sexualizing the idols by creating nsfw content

And I have to say not every fan does it, not every entertainment does it but Weill a big part of the fandom does and a most entertainments promote their idols like this

If ur 17 what tf are u doing here fr and then reading adult stuff and cry about sexualizing and no I don’t they would wait till 18 (I lost my virginity at 15) but I was talking about virgins and really young people maybe under 14? (the Kpop fandom has a LOT of young people btw) and thank u for not using the slur anymore ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

and I’m pretty sure the author is a taekooker but as I said, the characters personalities and body is different, and I’m also pretty sure she used the visuals to get readers too, it’s actually a smart way to promote woher webtoon, but making characters similar to a person is common and in a romance genre they usually have sex so yeah

I’m muting this thread so pls don’t reply back. I’m off to twitter