hope90 October 11, 2024 2:35 pm

I have to get this off my chest. Does anyone else find it annoying how mc's just think everything they know is right? Like so what u "read" the book, or reincarnated. Why do you think you know better than the person their own feelings.

"I don't hate you"

"No, your just confused. Blah blah blah"


Sis you read a book at 7 and are only 16. And completely changed how you act and behave. Of course things changes, like I would hate telling someone how I feel and being told I'm delusional about my own emotions because it makes them more comfortable for me to act like cooker cutter character in a book.

    PistashiowithaS October 11, 2024 10:01 pm

    Yessss. Finally someone brought it up, like every story with this reincarnated trope they're always like that. Have the Mc never heard of butterfly effect??? If you change the story of how it's suppost to be things are going to change, even if it's the smallest thing you change about yourself or something that revolve around story in some way it's going to bring huge changes.

    hope90 October 12, 2024 11:02 am
    Yessss. Finally someone brought it up, like every story with this reincarnated trope they're always like that. Have the Mc never heard of butterfly effect??? If you change the story of how it's suppost to be th... PistashiowithaS

    Exactly!! Like they act like because they are from the "modern" era they know everything when they literally say they were an average joe. Like why do you think because you read the book you jniw everything? Often the finaly version of a book has a bunch of edits and removed scenes writers cut out a lot from books while writing what makes you think you're in the final version, and what if its a fanfiction...like they are either uncomfortable with out feeling superior or just that empty headed

    PistashiowithaS October 12, 2024 3:34 pm
    Exactly!! Like they act like because they are from the "modern" era they know everything when they literally say they were an average joe. Like why do you think because you read the book you jniw everything? Of... hope90

    Yea! Like I can kinda see the Mc pov but like can't you use that so called smart side of you brain that you've been using to make sure you don't die, like use that side eto be like "well I have chaged alot of the og story so maybe that made them change. Maybe Ei really should think that they actually care about me" and not that they just wait until they turn "back to normal". Like you're PISSING ME OFF.

    PistashiowithaS October 12, 2024 3:35 pm
    Yea! Like I can kinda see the Mc pov but like can't you use that so called smart side of you brain that you've been using to make sure you don't die, like use that side eto be like "well I have chaged alot of t... PistashiowithaS

    Sorry for the spelling mistakes

    levipleasecallmeback October 18, 2024 8:49 am

    no tbh it’s easier to find it not annoying when you realize people in a story don’t know they’re characters. as a reader or watcher, it’s not hard to judge fictional beings for their choices because we have outside perspective and see everyone’s thoughts/intentions most the time. however they don’t have the external knowledge we do, and the only thing phil can do is rely on her short 10 years of consciousness

    look at it from the perspective of how she’s literally only 16 years old and was living in a state of perpetual anxiety/people pleasing for most of it. young teens are supposed to be slow and don’t have the same awareness as adults either so her decisions and way of thinking make complete sense

    hope90 October 18, 2024 1:42 pm
    no tbh it’s easier to find it not annoying when you realize people in a story don’t know they’re characters. as a reader or watcher, it’s not hard to judge fictional beings for their choices because we ... levipleasecallmeback

    But they are the ones who state they are from a modern society. A society that has introduced the idea of time travel as well as the idea that the flap of butterfly wings can lead to a tornado somewhere else. So it would be normal to assume your choices would change things. Its only arrogance and the hope you still can hold god like knowledge that leads the character to insist the emotional state of "characters" can shift. Also note they insist this is a book world but if there is not force outside that enforces that trope idea of it beinf a "false" world then u should assume you are in another world which means once you enter it the variables can change as well as how people feel. Like you said they are in fact similar to us believing they have al the information because they read it.

    Which means they take more comfort in why they think "should" happen rather than what could happen. So they fall into arrogance.

    levipleasecallmeback October 18, 2024 4:30 pm
    But they are the ones who state they are from a modern society. A society that has introduced the idea of time travel as well as the idea that the flap of butterfly wings can lead to a tornado somewhere else. S... hope90

    you are holding onto the notion that this young teen girl has experienced a huge philosophical breakthrough about her situation when she’s still mildly insecure and unaware of the reality of the circumstances. again taking away what we know about these stories, in her eyes she’s nothing to the people in her lives but a replacement / doesn’t hold that much importance to these people. which is why she’s always so skeptical about her own assumptions. it’s not because of arrogance or the belief they have god like knowledge… she genuinely doesn’t think she’s significant to these people and is solely relying on an old prophecy to stay alive since that’s all she knows

    i think you are setting too high of a standard on someone because you’ve read multiple isekai stories, where the fl is usually someone older and way more experienced in life where this opinion would make more sense. but im not even here to argue with you i wanted to explain why it’s not annoying to me and maybe my train of thought could help. so i don’t agree with your opinion and don’t think further explanation would be helpful if we don’t see eye to eye from this point

    bichen25 October 24, 2024 9:49 pm
    you are holding onto the notion that this young teen girl has experienced a huge philosophical breakthrough about her situation when she’s still mildly insecure and unaware of the reality of the circumstances... levipleasecallmeback

    Completely agree!

    Miguel's tiddies November 5, 2024 4:20 am

    Sure. They might have changed. But the emotional abuse is still there. Will you trust him if you've been neglected by him all your childhood? No. I wouldn't. Because I lived that life. Not to her extreme, but yes, neglect messes up your mind. If my neglectful father says he cares about me, I wouldn't believe it. It's not about the book, it's him who's the problem

hope90 August 31, 2024 2:13 pm

Y?

Because the fmc isn't some toxic unfeeling wraith. Too many stories did this topic but the made the woman unfeeling and dang near insane

    Makima0004 August 31, 2024 3:02 pm

    Oh yes! I wanted to point this out too! This manhwa is finally a femdom without toxic drama~♡

hope90 July 15, 2024 2:22 pm

The minute he found out he didn't have a brother he should have been acting a fool and trying to die, cause me?! I would have flown out the window like "I believe I can fly" Like when I say the disgusting trash would have to cut my limbs for me to stay I mean whole ass ancient Chinese in a jar type of cutting.

hope90 May 18, 2024 8:59 pm

You know I enjoy twisted semes but back in the day there was a good story, now ppl just write anything and slap dark on jt. Completely ignoring why dark stories were good. Usually its because there is an element of plotting and deeper mystery but here...there is nothing but brutalisation and harm

    Pomme May 18, 2024 10:23 pm

    You read color recipe ?

hope90 January 21, 2024 2:22 am

While Mango has a libral amount of R18 material, it's still a site that host "Manga" so if you just want Hentai there ware plenty of sites with pegging hentai video and manga format. But this manga, is about a relationship that comes along with the complexity of finding what one truly desires in their sex life and learning to be comfortable with that.

If you lack the ability to enjoy a story of this level, don't blame the story. Blame yourself.

    S-J-M January 21, 2024 5:26 pm

    Are you being intentionally stupid or just delusional? This story has too much focus on sex and intimacy for you to pretend this is about porn lmfaooo

hope90 October 8, 2023 7:41 pm

Are we reading the same book? Like Carcel was a playboy before their marriage. And home girl wanted him to be...she is in no way a victim to Carcel, in fact the two of them to me are actually more friend like even with the switch up they make me laugh as children.

Outside of that the only person I feel deserves hate is the prince, brother and pops. Y'all expecting man to be loyal before marriage when u can't even call them boyfriend or girlfriend, especially in this time frame when her dad could wake up on a Saturday and decide to break their engagement.

And even still he kept his affairs quiet(he thought) anyway compared to me out here lying to their mistress and wives.

Let's not forget that he actually was ready to be her one boy at 15/16 but ines got sick and he thought she was being cold to him which led him to feel neglected and that she wasn't really into him. Basically I'm going to have endure a cold marriage so let me have fun before that. He had no plans to cheat after marriage.

If you can't handle adult story lines just say that and go read a pg13 shoujo.

I feel like allot of you just won't admit you lack the maturity and mentality to read stories that don't just give sweet love scenes and one dimensional heroes and heroines.

    LaNansha October 9, 2023 1:18 pm

    Dang, I didn’t think anyone still felt that way this far into the story. Begs the question why even bother reading it. I absolutely love the leads with the flaws they both have. Gives so many rich layers to the story.

    snapplecider October 11, 2023 2:21 am
    Dang, I didn’t think anyone still felt that way this far into the story. Begs the question why even bother reading it. I absolutely love the leads with the flaws they both have. Gives so many rich layers to t... LaNansha

    Some ppl just read bc they love the FL only and then they get mad when FL doesn't end up doing what they want.

    .(^^) October 11, 2023 7:04 pm

    well said (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

hope90 May 19, 2021 6:12 pm

So ppl keep talking about the age gap but~~~ um u have to add yuri "death age" plus the years she loved in this world. In fact yuri getting with a guy her age would also create an age gap...

    hesione May 19, 2021 7:54 pm

    apparently I only care about physical appearance/age though... rip me and my no brain...

    hope90 May 19, 2021 8:16 pm
    apparently I only care about physical appearance/age though... rip me and my no brain... hesione

    I mean physical age matters too but ignoring that she's a grown woman with the ability to make decision for herself is basically making a solid statement with only half the information. She litterally spent an entire chapter explaining her thought process...like a grown woman.

    hesione May 19, 2021 8:24 pm
    I mean physical age matters too but ignoring that she's a grown woman with the ability to make decision for herself is basically making a solid statement with only half the information. She litterally spent an ... hope90

    fdjghdfskjl I totally agree

    Iby May 19, 2021 11:36 pm
    I mean physical age matters too but ignoring that she's a grown woman with the ability to make decision for herself is basically making a solid statement with only half the information. She litterally spent an ... hope90

    True!
    Although in this case it doesn't really apply (she looks young, but not that young) I see another potential problem though: the fact that someone much older would get attracted to someone who has the appearance of a child. We can say that "what matters is what's inside" all we want, there are still limits for the outward appearance.

    ag.jjtj May 20, 2021 12:07 am

    If Yuri is over 18 then I don’t care for any age gap. Why do people have such a problem with it, if it ain’t grooming and it’s love, consented, then what’s the problem. Let people live their life

    hope90 May 20, 2021 4:22 am
    True! Although in this case it doesn't really apply (she looks young, but not that young) I see another potential problem though: the fact that someone much older would get attracted to someone who has the appe... Iby

    But that would be up the person receiving the affection to decide. We've already been given a clear understanding of her inner thoughts which actually talk about their age. But if we are talking about ppl in general in a relationship with an age I actually find it immature of people to react in such a way. Plenty of ppl have gotten married, had healthy relationships and they were ten years apart.

    hope90 May 20, 2021 4:24 am
    True! Although in this case it doesn't really apply (she looks young, but not that young) I see another potential problem though: the fact that someone much older would get attracted to someone who has the appe... Iby

    The primary issue is that people automatically jump to "grooming" and allude to "pedophelia" because of their "feelings" rather than what's actually written and explained.

    Iby May 20, 2021 7:41 am
    But that would be up the person receiving the affection to decide. We've already been given a clear understanding of her inner thoughts which actually talk about their age. But if we are talking about ppl in ge... hope90

    Yeah, I'm not doubting that or anything, plus IRL it's way more complex and way less binary than that, what I'm saying is that while the mentality is extremely important (

    Iby May 20, 2021 7:51 am
    But that would be up the person receiving the affection to decide. We've already been given a clear understanding of her inner thoughts which actually talk about their age. But if we are talking about ppl in ge... hope90

    (being consentant, being able to consent without any obstacle to it really being consent (age, power dynamics, etc.)) the fact that an adult can be attracted to what looks like the body of a child is worrying. And I'm talking more about manga than real life precisely because (thankfully) bodies don't work the same way IRL.

    Be it in shoujo or in yaoi, there often is a character involved in a relationship that has the body of a litteral child, which I personally find disturbing, because when it's like that the character tends to look younger and younger as the chapters pass.

    LysLaz May 20, 2021 11:10 am
    (being consentant, being able to consent without any obstacle to it really being consent (age, power dynamics, etc.)) the fact that an adult can be attracted to what looks like the body of a child is worrying. ... Iby

    I actually agree that there’s a bit of creep level when an adult is sexually attracted to person who has the appearance of child, but more when the attraction is solely because they have the appearance of a child. That doesn’t seem to apply here though, when the characters that are attracted to Yuri explain their affection for her it is never about her body or childish looks, it is always her wittiness and adorable personality that makes them love her so much. If they were like “Ooh, this person looks so much like a 10 yo, I wanna f**k them” , I would be dropping this story faster than dropped out of yoga class.

    Iby May 20, 2021 1:09 pm
    I actually agree that there’s a bit of creep level when an adult is sexually attracted to person who has the appearance of child, but more when the attraction is solely because they have the appearance of a c... LysLaz

    Yup, totally!

hope90 April 22, 2021 2:26 pm

This bromance is giving me Surrender by natalie Taylor vibes.

hope90 March 9, 2021 5:02 am

It never fails me when I read comments soaked in the privilege of learning from modern western minds.

"Like how could he marry a girl?!"

Umm ancient japan, life expectancy 50...girls were seen as mature after their first menstrual (in plenty of countries)

Not saying it's right, but! This nearly ignorant reaction is soooo annoying. As if no one sat in a history class and paid attention. Or can step outside of their well-trained modern mindset to take in the story.

hope90 March 1, 2021 12:02 am

sometimes I just want to open a chat room and call people...Idiots. Today is that day... like are you people actually reading

    Jay Wilson March 2, 2021 5:24 pm

    Im not sure if your saying you dont like the story or not but, its your option and i respect it (▰˘◡˘▰)

    hope90 March 2, 2021 5:32 pm
    Im not sure if your saying you dont like the story or not but, its your option and i respect it (▰˘◡˘▰) Jay Wilson

    I wasn't saying I disliked the story. I was saying the readers were idiots for not knowing the character said she was twenty-one...in bold.

    Jay Wilson March 2, 2021 5:39 pm
    I wasn't saying I disliked the story. I was saying the readers were idiots for not knowing the character said she was twenty-one...in bold. hope90

    ohhh- sorry :[

    Lil D April 10, 2021 1:28 am

    I know the feeling of wanting to call someone an idiot cause literally in some manga I've read... They comment something stupid .. And I'm like " Excuse me? Do you read or just look at the picture?? " (● ̄(エ) ̄●)

    Easterbunnyヤオイgxk April 10, 2021 4:32 pm
    I know the feeling of wanting to call someone an idiot cause literally in some manga I've read... They comment something stupid .. And I'm like " Excuse me? Do you read or just look at the picture?? " (●�... Lil D

    Same I had to clarify a whole plots cause everyone was getting it wrong and people backed me like guys are we reading the same thing here

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