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shuper April 22, 2021 3:04 pm

does anyone else remember when mangago didnt have ridiculous arguments in every comment section full of 15 year olds getting mad about r@pe, non-con, high school aged shit, or literally just any other slightly explicit or immoral stuff? you guys know this is a glorified porn site right? the culture around most bl or doshinji is that most of the time its depraved, innapropriate and largely deals with concepts that are not okay in the real world. its fiction. its not real. relax and let yaoi be gross again.

    _em April 22, 2021 3:10 pm

    fyi, its not the fifteen year olds, its people w actual braincells. u say the culture around bl is depraved and shit, thats the thing babe. it shouldn't be. its high time for people to realize that glorifying rape, non con etc is not. right. doesnt matter if its fiction. honestly, its only bl readers who have grown so accustomed to stuff like this. ya'll need to go and get a reality check.

    Sangwoogf April 22, 2021 3:10 pm

    Yeaa. They talkin too much.

    hideki April 22, 2021 3:14 pm

    Its gotten so toxic since I first joined xx I blame social media for spreading the site around and inviting all the toxic ppl in

    catncottonball April 22, 2021 3:15 pm
    fyi, its not the fifteen year olds, its people w actual braincells. u say the culture around bl is depraved and shit, thats the thing babe. it shouldn't be. its high time for people to realize that glorifying r... _em

    agree with u, but if someone said its about preferences. But the thing is majority of bl here doesnt even bother giving us warning, trigger, just a 18^ sign that doesnt really help with us at all.

    jeans fat horse cock April 22, 2021 3:16 pm

    i dont want to have to see rape scenes in every chapter i read... just because its fiction and its 'normalised' doesnt jusitfy it like wtf??

    Sarahaeyo April 22, 2021 3:16 pm

    they actually have a point but sometimes reading their comments made me feel like a sht, like I am the worst person liking this kind of story, tho only at first.

    now, if the story has a huge age gap, incest or rape, I just don't read comments anymore--cuz I know everyone will be hating it and spiting someone like me, who liked the story.

    dazai-san notice me April 22, 2021 3:17 pm

    atleast those "15 year olds" have the functioning mindset to point out this gross sht. imagine glorifying rape cause its "fiction" and allow younger readers interpret it as normal oof idc if yall read that shit cause then id be hypocritical. but atleast i know when the plot is wrong and can point it out to those saying otherwise. its called educating. so i sure as hell wont shut my mouth just so people can "let yaoi be gross again".

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:17 pm
    fyi, its not the fifteen year olds, its people w actual braincells. u say the culture around bl is depraved and shit, thats the thing babe. it shouldn't be. its high time for people to realize that glorifying r... _em

    why shouldnt it be? manga as a concept is not nearly as damaging as real life porn, manga doesnt have an threat of leading to sex trafficking, actual minors being endangered, financial manipulation, etc. its a good outlet for people without any real effect irl. go ahead and use buzz words, but the reality is none of this shit matters, ur comments wont change anything, enbys getting mad on tiktok and twitter wont change anything, yaoi and bl is a big industry that will keep churning out porn for as long as people are jacking off to it. focus on the actual issues surrounding rape or non con IN THE REAL WORLD STUPID.

    _em April 22, 2021 3:21 pm
    agree with u, but if someone said its about preferences. But the thing is majority of bl here doesnt even bother giving us warning, trigger, just a 18^ sign that doesnt really help with us at all. catncottonball

    exactly. i guess some ppl do have preferences like that, and theres nothing we can do about it. but atleast dont justify what you're doing by making up excuses or saying its fiction. thats just shitty.

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:24 pm
    exactly. i guess some ppl do have preferences like that, and theres nothing we can do about it. but atleast dont justify what you're doing by making up excuses or saying its fiction. thats just shitty. _em

    what do you mean? it literally is fiction? thats not an excuse..... thats what it is....

    _em April 22, 2021 3:25 pm
    why shouldnt it be? manga as a concept is not nearly as damaging as real life porn, manga doesnt have an threat of leading to sex trafficking, actual minors being endangered, financial manipulation, etc. its a ... shuper

    im sorry but how do u know if im not addressing the issue irl? thats just blatant prejudice on ur part. u say yaoi and bl will keep churning out porn as long as people are jacking off to it. that, right there, is the problem. stop using people's trauma as a plot device to get pleasure. dont u get how messed up that is? de-normalize that, start calling out authors, and they'll gradually steer away from shit like that.

    hideki April 22, 2021 3:28 pm

    ;; And the arguing continues here, Manga, manhwa, manhua whatever you read whatever genre you read there will always be a few that aren't the most holy or the most legal but its not the readers fault it the author who created such a plot line so lets not fight over it and instead just read what we read xx btw if you are looking to read a manga and are worried it'll have triggering things in it I recommend you look at the tags by the readers, usually ppl will put "rape" or "sexual assult" in the tags so if you're uncomfortable reading such things you can try to avoid it by looking at the tags none of us can control what is uploaded onto the site, can't control what ppl in the comments say and can't control how an author tells a story so let's not fight about it and just inhale exhale read maybe touch some grass later and just enjoy mangago

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:29 pm
    they actually have a point but sometimes reading their comments made me feel like a sht, like I am the worst person liking this kind of story, tho only at first.now, if the story has a huge age gap, incest or r... Sarahaeyo

    i have enough concept of reality to seperate what is morally unjustifiable in the real world, to what i feel like consuming on the internet. you shouldnt feel shitty as long as you have enough common sense to know that 99% of the stuff depicted in this shit is gross, ur fine. ur not a bad person for having an outlet.

    _em April 22, 2021 3:31 pm
    what do you mean? it literally is fiction? thats not an excuse..... thats what it is.... shuper

    im sorry but say that to anyone outside the bl community and you'll realize how insensitive u sound. ive seen so many young users here being affected by the sick mindset that ya'll have. they think reading about rape which is brushed off is okay. they think rape being brushed off is okay. dont come at me w the fiction part again cuz people adapt to what they read about, hear about and see about. you'll see so many of them wanting a guy like the rapist from potn in irl. thats the kind of mentality yall are producing.

    um- April 22, 2021 3:34 pm

    should've brought this to forums, god you would get a shit ton of replies, this shit on mangago is extremely controversial, if you want to tune in for more info like this, the forums always have a lot of these discussions, but this is a question asking place for manga/hua/wha, not to start drama.

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:37 pm
    im sorry but how do u know if im not addressing the issue irl? thats just blatant prejudice on ur part. u say yaoi and bl will keep churning out porn as long as people are jacking off to it. that, right there, ... _em

    you literally implied i have "zero braincells" and im using "peoples trauma" to "get pleasure" how is that not blatant prejudice? please go ahead and start calling out yaoi authors and they will stop hurting your feelings, i bet they will definetly stop publishing the porn that they earn a living off of. i would love to see how "de-normalizing" gross kinks will stop......... what? exactly? im truly wondering what is gained from all this other than just mild half hearted attempts by teenagers to stop other teenagers from reading weird porn.

    um- April 22, 2021 3:42 pm
    you literally implied i have "zero braincells" and im using "peoples trauma" to "get pleasure" how is that not blatant prejudice? please go ahead and start calling out yaoi authors and they will stop hurting yo... shuper

    no ones stopping anyone though, if you want to read what you read, good for you. jack off to whatever you want to no one gaf, but it becomes a problem when you start fetishizing gay men irl, it becomes a problem when you start thinking abuse is romance. that's what people are talking about. no one has an issue with what you're reading, its how its affecting you and the way you think. that's the issue.

    UwU_26 April 22, 2021 3:47 pm

    I do not agree regarding a "manga is just a fiction" because it can also portray "little reality of life"

    I don't really know, but according to some people who visited japan, they still have this culture that men must dominate women, it was portrayed in may mangas where
    "seme (men) dominates (through Rape) uke (neko or women)"

    Our generation today, forgot the fact that books, novels, and ets where created in the purpose to give readers a real life lesson and not just give to satisfy your kinks, I agree that authors can do what they want, BUT many authors this day tend to forget the purpose of books and other stories.

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:51 pm
    no ones stopping anyone though, if you want to read what you read, good for you. jack off to whatever you want to no one gaf, but it becomes a problem when you start fetishizing gay men irl, it becomes a proble... um-

    these seem like underdeveloped brain problems and i cant relate. i think someone sexualizing gay people irl or getting into an abusive relationship has alot more issues than just reading gay manga

    shuper April 22, 2021 3:51 pm
    I do not agree regarding a "manga is just a fiction" because it can also portray "little reality of life"I don't really know, but according to some people who visited japan, they still have this culture that me... UwU_26

    great response i completely agree

    _em April 22, 2021 3:54 pm
    you literally implied i have "zero braincells" and im using "peoples trauma" to "get pleasure" how is that not blatant prejudice? please go ahead and start calling out yaoi authors and they will stop hurting yo... shuper

    ...lmao arent u the one who said people jack off to stuff like this. anyway, why do u think im against porn bruh. u wanna make a living off porn? do it, nobody's stopping u. rape, however, is a very, very sensitive subject which should be dealt w accordingly. im asking everyone to stop encouraging authors and start calling em out instead. thats how change starts. i'd like to see people keep their cool when other crimes like racism (just an example) being addressed, normalized and glorified in this way.

    um- April 22, 2021 4:04 pm
    these seem like underdeveloped brain problems and i cant relate. i think someone sexualizing gay people irl or getting into an abusive relationship has alot more issues than just reading gay manga shuper

    right, but the fiction can really influence younger readers, which is why there are many people talking about the romanticization of things. its not to necessarily hate on the manga, but to let people know it isn't a portrayal of how things should be and that this most definitely shouldn't be romanticized. sure these mostly direct young readers but i've met many full grown adults who romanticize and fetishize, not knowing or even wanting to understand what they're doing is wrong. even if the info was coming from 15 year olds, at least they make a valid and understandable point, though most of the time, they are grown adults making them, to also educate younger people about these topics.

    _em April 22, 2021 4:12 pm
    you literally implied i have "zero braincells" and im using "peoples trauma" to "get pleasure" how is that not blatant prejudice? please go ahead and start calling out yaoi authors and they will stop hurting yo... shuper

    u literally said people jack off to that shit, how is that prejudice. id like ya'll to keep the same stance that its just fiction when other crimes like uh idk racism (just an example) are being normalized or even glorified in mangas. what im asking for is simple: start calling out the authors. stop encouraging their works and making people think its normal. thats how change starts. if u wanna read about glorified rape, go ahead. dont make shitty statements like these tho to shut the people who are actually calling people like u out. bcs that's not changing anything.

    _em April 22, 2021 4:13 pm
    u literally said people jack off to that shit, how is that prejudice. id like ya'll to keep the same stance that its just fiction when other crimes like uh idk racism (just an example) are being normalized or e... _em

    IM SO SORRY I COMMENTED THE SAME THING TWICE I THOUGHT MY COMMENT WASNT SHOWING UP

    _em April 22, 2021 4:14 pm
    right, but the fiction can really influence younger readers, which is why there are many people talking about the romanticization of things. its not to necessarily hate on the manga, but to let people know it i... um-

    I LOVE YOU. couldn't have phrased it better

    um- April 22, 2021 4:15 pm
    I LOVE YOU. couldn't have phrased it better _em

    I LOVE YOU TOO, SPITTING FACTS AS YOU SHOULD

    _em April 22, 2021 4:18 pm
    I LOVE YOU TOO, SPITTING FACTS AS YOU SHOULD um-

    <3

shuper February 17, 2021 9:44 am

anyone know any yaoi were the characters are rebellious, punk, or generally alternative? its so ard to find lists!

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