He just doesn’t really care that much about Cirrus, I mean he cares but not to any degree that’s really significant, Skylar you disappoint me. Also why is he talking about that “fateful day” as if it happened a year ago and not like two days ago????

This is for the best. I hope they never end up together. Also, Skylar, after the shit you said what makes you think you had the right to go see him??????? Leave him alone and continue your creepy possessive pining over a straight guy friend because as you’ve implied, you ain’t over him

That’s literal rape, what the fuck Doyeon, you disgusting piece of shit, there was no clear consent or enthusiastic consent, you can’t start touching someone and then ask if it’s ok and say you’ll only stop if they say a specific word when they are clearly uncomfortable, literally what the fuck

Why are you all casting moral aspersions on Doyeon from seeing her background? What’s wrong with you all? Selfish???? Pretends to be a good person?????? How the fuck did you get such terrible shit from this??????????????

Are we all forgetting the reason Cirrus could literally blackmail Skylar is because Skylar was being a creep? Just imagine you and your friend hanging out and then you find folders of pictures of yourself self collected and kept on their devices? I would vomit, I would feel disgusted, betrayed, and so scared. Because you wouldn’t think they only took those pictures innocently, you’d also think they did things with them and once you know it is like unconsensually being the subject of someone’s fantasies, which is disturbing. No, this is not the same as collecting pics of your idol, this is a person you have a close relationship with and you know personally. This is so creepy and weird. I don’t know why everyone is acting like Skylar is some saint here and has never done something wrong and Cirrus was some villain who did crazy shit to him unprompted, and that Cirrus is the only unhinged person. And finally, this is the important part, that Cirrus deserved to hear that from Skylar. He did not. I don’t know why I keep seeing comments of this over and over again, no he did not deserve to hear that and yes Skylar was an asshole and I never want them together. Since they got together, Skylar has also physically assaulted him. Like, what the fuck. Does no give a fuck about that?

It cuts to twenty years in the future from now and this shit is a distant memory, both of them have moved on with someone else and they’re happy, they don’t even really remember much of this time or each other, just snippets here and there of a few concrete memories, some of the emotions, because so much more life and people have been experienced after that that this is just another part. They just don’t really think about it at all because they are different people and they’ve grown, those shoes, clothes, bodies, and emotions don’t fit them anymore but like a well worn sweater their sentiments and nostalgia are somewhere to be found when they are looked for, fondly thought of, the pain no longer there, the regret already reconciled with, all that’s left is the relief and pride of having been able to get through that tough time. And now they’ve so much life yet to live with someone they each love and cherish.

Skylar said more things that can’t be taken back, and it was brutal. I do not ship them at all, now or in the future when they are adults. I sincerely hope they never get back together. I think I’m a dumbass for starting to read this a few chs before they started getting together fr because I absolutely dislike Skylar so much.

I couldn’t read the beginning because I cringed so hard at Skylar being a creep so I skipped that shit and now where I’m at Skylar has physically assaulted Cirrus, feels like Cirrus shouldn’t have introduced Chan il to his own crush (my boy is straight, leave him alone and stop projecting your possessiveness and desire on him, this reaction to finding out is probably because of the manipulative aspect but I’m pretty sure some of that hurt and anger is because fulfilment of the crush of Chan il ), and continually says brutal things to Cirrus while also dating Cirrus while still being in love wihh th Chan il. I know Cirrus showed real sociopathic behaviour in the beginning but once again, he could only do that blackmail shit because Skylar was being a creep so idk what to think, someone help me.

Skylar said more things that can’t be taken back, and it was brutal. I do not ship them at all, now or in the future when they are adults. I sincerely hope they never get back together. I think I’m a dumbass for starting to read this a few chs before they started getting together fr because I absolutely dislike Skylar so much.

I couldn’t read the beginning because I cringed so hard at Skylar being a creep so I skipped that shit and now where I’m at Skylar has physically assaulted Cirrus, feels like Cirrus shouldn’t have introduced Chan il to his own crush (my boy is straight, leave him alone and stop projecting your possessiveness and desire on him, this reaction to finding out is probably because of the manipulative aspect but I’m pretty sure some of that hurt and anger is because fulfilment of the crush of Chan il ), and continually says brutal things to Cirrus while also dating Cirrus while still being in love wihh th Chan il. I know Cirrus showed real sociopathic behaviour in the beginning but once again, he could only do that blackmail shit because Skylar was being a creep so idk what to think, someone help me.

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WHAT IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE????

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I need devastating friendship stories, friendship breakups, friendship shit

The last few chapters starting from when they entered the school has been pretty good horror. The demon creature thing is excellent, timing of the panels and scenes is really good, it’s very creepy. Also the last panel of this chapter was so lovely

Guys, shit is way more complex than Doyeon taking advantage of the fact that Jinjoo is dependent on her. Jinjoo starts making weird demands starting from ch 8 to her to never leave her alone again. And then Doyeon kisses her mid argument annd that is FUCKED UP AND WRONG and then Jinjoo rejects that shit and then Doyeon puts distance annd respects that and then in ch 12 Jinjoo ASKS DOYEON TO SLEEP IN THE SAME BED????? WHY??????????? WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?????? Jinjoo is not a helpless teenager, she is a 40 year old woman who has had jobs before. There are women’s shelters she can look into to go there. She is devout and active in the church community, why not ask for help there?????? This 24 year old college student could not have been her only option.

How tf does everyone think Doyeon is on the ASPD spectrum? Someone with ASPD would never self harm to punish themselves or feel guilt and punish themselves to somehow alleviate it. I also theorise Doyeon is demisexual since she could only feel sexually attracted to someone when she could form a deep emotional bond/connection and that’s why she could get attracted to Jinjoo in the first place. She was able to relate the deep loneliness she felt since her young childhood to Jinjoo’s weeping she heard every night. She saw her own deep loneliness in Jinjoo and therefore wanted to give her the comfort and love she never had, and that enabled her to finally deeply emotionally connect enough to have sexual attraction. I don’t think people with ASPD can be demisexual like this.

I sincerely would like to understand how this narrative of Doyeon having low empathy came about because I can’t see it at all. I’m convinced ppl who think that have only focused on Jinjoo as a character, maybe the main main character, and not on Doyeon at all. It’s crazy. Nothing about Doyeon shows low empathy, superficially or otherwise. Everyone is crazily focused on Jinjoo and her plight but literally no one extends that same understanding to Doyeon. I just don’t understand why. And the reluctance to admit that Jinjoo did use Doyeon and her feelings of love and devotion, and did indeed use her for sex. Jinjoo threw so much baggage on her, baggage of her marriage, her resentment towards her husband, her wanting to be rescued and when that didn’t happen perfectly, the betrayal and subsequent emotional punishment inflicted on Doyeon, and everyone forgets this is Doyeon’s first sexual experience, first love, she is naive, she is desperate, she did not have any control and she was out of her depth with an older woman, she was self harming more due to the stress, she was put in a state of more instability, she did beg Jinjoo to not reach out to her again for sex and Jinjoo had sex with her then and there.

At the core of Doyeon’s character is deep deep loneliness and sadness and a desperation of wanting to belong and truly be needed. This results in her perfect people pleaser superficial personality which makes her seem like an NPC with no needs. But that’s on purpose and her wants and needs were stored deep down within her because her wanting anything and not being actively helpful never got her close to truly mattering to someone, something she was shown and was reinforced time and again throughout her childhood. If she doesn’t want or need anything she also won’t have to contend with being disappointed and abandoned. Again. And here she is, perfect, without any flaws, trying to be indispensable to anyone but also keeping a distance between everyone.

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He can finally consume the gun devil who did what it did to beloved Aki… I mean he already erased snow and so the snow ball fight… Anyways…

How is everyone expecting more emotional maturity from the 24 year old than the 42 year old here??? Also did everyone forget ch 20, ch 59?????? How creepy, weird, and controlling Jinjoo can get? Doyeon also has her own set of trauma, real bad shit since she was a very young child, even her place rn is very unstable vis a vis her adoptive parents and sister since the adoptive parents adopted her for the sis and the sis clearly fucking hated her. The only reason she was even able to be sexually attracted to Jinjoo is because she could emotionally relate to her since she projected the deep loneliness and sadness she felt onto Jinjoo due to hearing her weep every night. She’s probably demisexual or smth. What Doyeon is doing now is literally what Jinjoo was doing before, Doyeon could only meet Jinjoo at a time and place she requested and when she was available, and a lot of the time it was for sex, and for her she had the excuse of having an affair, but it’s more shocking that Doyeon is doing this because she doesn’t have that same cover and it is more blatant, I’m not sure where everyone is getting the idea that Doyeon only wants Jinjoo for sex etc, that’s clearly not the case, she wasn’t even wet and she only got a little wet because of the normal biological response to someone physically stimulating her. Based on the idea that Doyeon thinks Jinjoo had sex with her husband (and her not clearing it up) Doyeon doesn’t think Jinjoo really cares anymore and that Jinjoo just wants sex from her so what’s the point, this probably won’t phase her anyway

I love the art, I’m waiting for a good story with this artist

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1) Seth tried to rape Horus, Horus then raped Seth.
2) Horus then SA’d Seth multiple times after.
3) Seth, even till this point in the story, seems to be asexual and disinterested in sex, with any gender. He might even be aromantic. Sex seems to be a means to an end, to create a family. The one kiss he gave Horus was because of an overwhelming wave of emotions, grief, sadness, relief, etc. It was not sexual. Kisses aren’t always sexual. If they do end up together in a sexual relationship, it would disregard everything we’ve seen about Seth, even before he met Horus. That would be inconsistent and would warp the story to fit an ending that I do not think fits.
4) Horus still calls Seth uncle. WHY ARE YOU CALLING YOUR SUPPOSED LOVE INTEREST UNCLE? Some real Freudian shit is going on here.

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But ye, I would have cried if I saw that statue underwater in the dark

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How beautiful, a temple for amphibians before humans. An ancient deity. The priest was a frog SO CUTTTTEEEE. They better not mess with the temple and leave it as it is, it is not for them, these human centric deities