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it was a nightmare, i mean he wasn't chocked for real. but i wish he was chocked, at least seungho would believe him :(

I mean, he was choked until he lost consciousness, so that would leave heavy bruises. And this assassin guy put a lot of strength into it as well, with the veins on his hands all bulging. I also noticed that Nakyum‘s lip was bloody when he was found. Maybe you are right in Seungho not seeing the wounds as it was dark, but I hope he will notice them now in the daylight. And let’s hope the wounds that should be on Nakyum don’t just miraculously disappear for dramatic affect, to justify Seungho going all cold asshole on the little bean. I have a bad feeling about this. Nakyum was put on a mere sack outside, and not as usual, into the master‘s room. Seungho is about to be a real prick now. Well, worse than before. I wonder what he’s planning. Will he throw him out? Rape him and then throw him in some kind of dungeon, to be pulled out whenever Seungho has need of him and his drawings? I’m really apprehensive to read the next chapter. I might just wait for more updates, so I won’t rage too much.

the reason why I think it was a nightmare is that if there were scars it would still be visible because we saw his neck throughout the chapter but there was nothing on his neck even though there were marks on his lips but maybe the drawer just didn't draw who knows you might be right ♡

Communication is important so i hope nakyum will try to tell him everything,, otherwise, everything gonna be like shit ona shit

I think you are right about the wounds on his neck not being drawn, so we as readers are aware that Seungho didn’t see them as it was nighttime. But I don’t understand why the artist drew Nakyum‘s lip wound in just one panel during a situation where Seungho was looking right at him. Didn’t he see that either? Apparently not because he threw him out on this sack. Anyways, Nakyum’s lip wound disappeared now as well. At least I don’t remember seeing it again. What’s going on? I hope it’s not just an accidental inconsistency by the artist as it kind of breaks the immersion for me ╮(￣▽￣)╭. Also, after Nakyum was choked out like that, he should have had blood shot eyes because of the broken blood vessels during the interruption of Oxygen supply to his brain (choking), and pressure. Lol.

Omg. Yes! But I suspect, that for more drama, Nakyum will internally reason with himself that it’s for the best if Seungho lets him go. Like during the „water on drawing“ situation. Even though he’s falling for Seungho, I would understand that reasoning. Seungho is, how far Nakyum knows, a man whore with Nakyum just one of many. I think he’s aware that he’s somewhat of a favorite but he’s suffering. The little self respect he had, was blown to smithereens by Seungho. He’s seen as a whore because he’s treated like one. Realistically, they would have no future

Totally agreed, actually i would be mad if he ends up with the seungho, no offense. Cause he is a raper and i somehow don't want this story ends up with a "rape him/be loveable and handsome/make him forget that you raped him/happily ever after" storyline like any other yaoi mangas. If they end up together, i would be still happy cause omg this author's art style makes everything adorable so i'd forget this opinion of mine lol. But idk even if they end up together, there should be really strong things to convince me about their love and nakyum's safeness. Idk i'm stuck :(

btw it should be safety not safeness lol

Lol. I’m also ambivalent about them ending up together. Nakyum has no input in the relationship. He’s forced to have sex with him because Seungho wants him. Nakyum is forced to draw his own rape, which of course by BL logic he starts enjoying. Nakyum is forced to accept anything this bastard throws at him. When Seungho, being an emotional coward, starts distancing himself and fucking around again for those 2 or 3 chapters (because he can’t deal with falling in love with anyone, especially not a lowly commoner), Nakyum had no choice but to accept this as well. Then we get those chapters how Seungho was abused as a kid for being gay and that somehow is supposed to make up for him treating Nakyum as a toy. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Seungho falling in love unwillingly, being jealous and suffering because of it, I just think it’s not enough to make up for all the shit he made Nakyum suffer. And now we probably will again see Seungho treat Nakyum like shit. Ugh. Something needs to happen that will put them on a somewhat equal footing. I think Nakyum needs to leave and make something out of himself. Like, establish a career with his art and become self reliant and self confident. And Seungho needs to do some soul searching and humble himself drastically. How does he expect for Nakyum to be open with him when he always made it clear with words and actions that he sees Nakyum as his inferior? I mean he is angry at falling in love and it not being reciprocated by Nakyum. And I think a lot with this anger has less to do with him just being scared to care for anyone, but more with an illiterate commoner not loving him back and pining away for someone else. Why should Nakyum open up and make himself even more vulnerable to a man who holds all the strings in their relationship? This prick needs to suffer and redeem himself. And yes, the art is gorgeous!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ Oh, and Nakyum needs to stop being a wilting flower for his „learned sir“ as well. I think he already realizes that this guy is just a selfish prick who tries to use him for his own gain. Nakyum should just bounce out of there with a big (╬￣皿￣)凸 to everyone!

A story like that being created is straight up Impossible but like we never know

Which Sultan? The old guy who almost raped her in chapter 1 or the ninth prince, who was told by Saye to put “it” in who never said she was a virgin and the prince who hasn’t explained why he’s thrusting faster, Sultan? And yeah he’s a little to obsessed.

Then again I’m unfortunately dropping this because of the obsessiveness so I probably missed some details

No I’m talking about his son, the ninth prince, who with his successful rebellion affectively became the new sultan. And yeah, he’s so obsessed that it’s not sexy anymore imo. She tells him that it hurts, which should have clued him in to be more careful, even if she wasn’t a virgin. What a douche nozzle. Why would you think I was referring to that old geezer at being hot ?(￣∇￣").

Lol. I can’t fault you for that. The art is gorgeous but the characters seem a little shallow and one dimensional. What a shame

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!! IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO DAMN HOT

i completely agree! i feel like mr.han hasn’t done anything yet to make me dislike or distrust his character as the author is obviously trying to make us do. i kinda like him more than hwi at this point.

In reference to her friend, she said Han tends to get lots of lovers and leave them behind. Which she is worried he would do with Parma. The narrative is not that he is a awful guy, but he probably tends to view guys as more of a revolving door. Nothing wrong with that, unless you’re serious.

His* friend.

I fully understand that, and I get that she’s trying to protect her friend but if she’s so protective why would she try to push her friend to get together with a man she literally doesn’t know. That doesn’t make too much sense.

I think that’s because he came really quickly when she called him that (through Param’s phone) night where he was drugged. So he looks like a dependable and responsible man to her.

Yep. It’s such an obvious ploy of the author and I think she’s planting all the distrust and dislike for Mr Han too early, when his actions don’t really support such dislike/distrust yet. He has a big sexual appetite, and I suppose him breaking it off with his purely sexual partner in that one chapter is supposed to show that he doesn’t care for people. I’m sorry but if I’m not into my sex partner anymore and I’m interested in someone else, I’d break it off as well. I think it’s rather honest and mature of him to break it off before pursuing MC fully after finding out he could have a chance. He also seems romantically interested in the MC. At least I didn’t see any evidence to the contrary as it rather seems to point in the other direction that Mr Han likes MC romantically as well as sexually. And I would understand the friend’s reasoning better if it wasn’t just Mr Han she’s against getting together with MC, but would also show concern about this other guy she doesn’t know at all, instead of bringing him over to MC‘s apartment and such. I wonder how she would react if MC would tell her how they got to know each other. Would she still be all for the red head as long as it’s not Mr Han? When we get down to it, the red head did worse things to the MC and acts like an immature kid. Its a sexy story and MC falls for red head (because he falls for MC) and it’s all cute but if the characters are all up in arms over Mr Han for being evidently promiscuous (which seems to be his greatest „sin“ as of now), then why is no one giving the red head at least half as much flack for how he blackmailed the MC into being sexually compliant? The thing is, the build up to Mr Han being the wrong one for the MC with how the characters react to him, while purely trusting MC‘s red headed love interest, seems wonky at best. The author failed to portray him in the negative light any other character sees him as. That’s the problem I have with the story right now. So what is this building up to? MC choosing Mr Han for a moment and then, surprise surprise, realizing he’s only in it for the sex after all? That wouldn’t really be a twist here as all the characters already dislike him. It would be more interesting if Mr Han is actually a normal grown man who likes the MC as more than a bed partner, and that everybody judged him prematurely for his past. And maybe MC realizing that the only reason he reacted internally negatively to Mr Han coming onto him (all this „he played with me because he knew I liked him before), which is ridiculous, was just MC already falling for the red head and subconsciously closing himself off to Mr Han emotionally. That would be an interesting „twist“. It would be an interesting moral to the readers as well. That you shouldn’t judge people by how other people talk about them but by what they actually do, and to pay attention to it. But that will obviously not happen ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I agree. Makes total sense to me and I would have reacted the same if my best friend was into a guy, who I always saw was picking new people up. I get it if my best friend wanted to sleep with him and that’s it but a huge crush like Param has? No way. I know he would be crushed so I would also react the same way as the friend did here. In terms of Hwi, some people can pick up characters and he looks trustworthy to her.

Lol. Sorry for this long ramble but I have to say it. What bothers me also about the whole Friend and Mr Han situation is that MC is treated like some naive young summer child instead of as the grown ass man that he is who has a successful career. I understand the friend warning him about Mr Han‘s reputation. That’s fine, but she goes on and on about how she doesn’t like him to MC before anything ever happened between them as far as she knows. What makes her think MC wouldn’t be able to make his own decisions? Also, in all those chapters, I wonder why MC was never concerned about the elephant in the room regarding Mr Han. Wouldn’t be the most pressing concern that keeps the MC from really attaching himself that if the relationship goes awry, he could loose his job or it would make his job more difficult? I don’t remember MC ever thinking about that. And that’s beside him having an affair with the red head. I don’t know but MC is like a leaf in the Wind. Never saying what he really wants, going with the flow whenever the guys are putting the moves on him. Tbh I don’t get why no one is a little miffed with the MC banging the red head while also getting friskier with his boss, and not telling Mr Han that he’s in a sexual relationship already. The MC is indecisive and makes it look like he’s playing around.

Yes, plus Param is a little lost and inexperienced. I think things are happening so fast. We just have to wait and see. But I am glued to this webtoon ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Yeah that’s probably it. It’s just bothersome to see her to go on and on about an adults sex life and how she doesn’t like him because of what she heard through gossip. It’s good that she told MC about what she knows about Mr Han’s reputation. But once would have sufficed. She seems to personally dislike this man over rumors how guys get addicted to sex with him. I think because we as the readers see more of what’s going on with the characters than each of those characters know about each other, we get a more unbiased view. That’s why it’s a little frustrating to see her basically judge a stranger purely for (what she heard through the grapevine) his sex life, while we actually see him acting better than Hwi a lot of times. I think in the end we will probably be made aware of that Mr Han is just playing around but I don’t see much evidence of that yet.

It’s good that she told MC of Mr Han‘s reputation to make him aware of this. But MC is also a Full fledged adult with a successful career, so she should trust that he can make his own decisions without her continued input about the same topic. It gets annoying quickly if a friend always goes on and on about how and why they don’t like someone you are into, like you didn’t get it the first time. It’s rather condescending.

I mean based on the raws, Han gets a whole backstory and is more humanized. So I don’t think this will go the usual route of he is just an asshole. I do think Han likes Param, but I also think he kind of sees it as a game as well. He is not made out to be awful, I think the friend just represents our friends and how protective they get, etc.

And Hwi (redhead) doesn’t like Han because he is a threat. The redhead wants the main character.

I didn’t check out the raws yet and it’s Good to know that Mr Han will be more fleshed out. And I’m glad it won’t go the predictable route of him being utter scum just because other people see him as such in the story while we don’t get much evidence of this. Lol. In any other story he would have been the main guy. The friend just rubbed me the wrong way, not because she warns MC about his reputation but because she lets him know all the time that she doesn’t like him because of all the rumors she heard about Han. It’s a little overdone aside from MC distrusting Han solely because he comes to the conclusion that his boss toyed with his feelings after coming onto him openly for the first time. That thought process doesn’t make too much sense to me. And that just looked like the author wanting to shift the narrative too forcefully in Hwi‘s favor. I like Hwi‘s development but he didn’t prove himself to be a much better guy than Han, yet.

Oh lol. I totally understand why Hwi doesn’t like Han because he’s his love rival. I used red head because I totally forgot his name ┗( T﹏T )┛

Param was hurt because Mr. Han knew about his crush the entire time and played with him. Parma’s friend knows Param more serious and inexperienced and it’s totally fair of her to warn him about Mr. Han. Which she’s only done twice. It’s one thing to have a lot of sex, but apparently Mr. Han also hurts the people he goes out with.

Mr. Han broke it off with his fling right after sex, right after he almost smothered him with a pillow so he could imagine he was fucking someone else. And Mr. Han came inside him which his fling obviously did not want. He’s gross.

I agree it was certainly messed up of Han to treat his sex partner like that. It is bad form to actually break up right after you’ve done the deed. But honestly it’s not worse than Hwi blackmailing Param into a sexual relationship. Which, as bl tropes demand, turns into a consensual sexual relationship. About how Han knew that Param had a crush on him. I don’t see it that way. He is interested in him and dropped hints that he’s into him. But also remained careful as he couldn’t know for sure that Param is gay. Han is also his employer so of course he wouldn’t just directly come on to him without knowing if he’s gay. He only went directly after him when he’s seen him in that gay bar and rescued him from being raped in the stall. Unless we get a flashback of Han thinking about how he knew way before that Param had a crush on him, I don’t want to assume what’s not there. And even if he knew. Why is him low key flirting with the guy he’s into such an atrocity when Hwi actually sexually assaulted Param and forced him to do things he wasn’t prepared to do? That’s my whole problem. When I put Han and Hwi on the „you are gross dude scale“ they are not far apart from each other. And from what we’ve actually seen, Hwi acted worse than Han (yet). Hwi only gets all that slack because he’s the main love interest and we can see him developing feelings for Param, while Han remains mysterious in character and intentions.

It is so much worse than A Fine Line...

Well technically Ana is the author of 'a fine line', Kimsu is the artist.
Though honestly, both of them have a pretty similar taste for drama for their each individual works.
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Σ( ￣□￣||) I’m scared to ask how this could be worse than “fine line”. Was it a gang bang after all?

All four of them are shady manchildren who can't be really honest and communicative.