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this is all speculation and on the basis of this being Michael’s true face. But this reveal perfectly fit the last piece of the puzzle; Michael’s confession and Turner-Satan past was a bolt from the blue. But the dot has finally connected

this is all speculation and on the basis of this being Michael’s true face. But this reveal perfectly fit the last piece of the puzzle; Michael’s confession and Turner-Satan past was a bolt from the blue. But the dot has finally connected

GIVE THIS PERSON A ROUND OF APPLAUSE!!!!!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ

this is so poetic i love this

I’m pretty sure he first appears in the flashback in chapter 7? Not sure if he pops up anywhere else tho.

He pops up when shin is getting his ass eaten out in a flashback I don’t remember what chapter but lmao

oh I think ur right it was the shower scene right? im p sure he only shows up those two times.

The beta fell for the alpha but the alpha was still hung up on the omega. However, the omega like the beta but he only saw him as a friend. Once, the omega found out that the alpha and beta we dating he decided to break them up. The omega would call out to the alpha whenever the alpha was on a date with the beta. The alpha would always abandon the beta. The omega even drugged the beta and the alpha raped the beta. Eventually the beta and alpha break up and the omega steps in and woos the beta. The omega and the beta are together, now. The alpha realizes he messed up and tries to get back with the beta. The beat tells him now. The alpha goes into pheromone shock and his bond with the omega is broken. I can remember why but the beta gets sick so the omega call his doctor. The doctor either knows that the omega drugged the beta or the omega tells the doctor. Either way the beta over hears and confronts the omega. The beta goes home and finds out his brother (an omega) is pregnant with his partner's (the beta's boss and friend of the omega) child. He puts on a brave face but inside feels like his world is falling apart again. The next day he runs away rather than risk abandonment, again. If I missed anything please feel free to add.

Thank you for the summary I'll read this when it ends and I know who the end couple is. This sounds like it's some good shit to read when you're in the mood for angst to cry and get angry(≧∀≦)

thankssss!!! The plot looks like something i dont wanna reread rn

Exes…. I guess?

was it ever clarified? Did it have a full backstory?

This is what i want to see. Not everythime someone say8ng wom is a pedo... Imagine being in won's position and someone sheltered you.

This is what i want to see. Not everytime someone saying won is a pedo... Imagine being in won's position and someone sheltered you.

The term isn’t being misused. Yes, it’s psychological like many others are, but it does not deter the fact that it is pedophilia. If you are attracted to someone who is younger than 18 years old, that is what’s characterized as pedophilia. Although there are specific terms for specific age ranges. Like yes, he was infatuated with him due to the fact that he was the only one who showed him kindness while he was being abused but that doesn’t matter. Once that scene where he made the older brother wear his younger brothers clothes to imagine and fulfill a sexual fantasy when Jinha was like wat 14? That’s exactly what it became…. pedophilia. Both of these things are true lmao it’s clear what the deeper analysis of the story is but that doesn’t make it not pedophilia everybody knows this.

won is a pedo lol. won is attracted to someone who’s a middle schooler when they first met and he continued to sexualize him all throughout his teenage years. “erm actually… etymologically it means PRE-pubescent so technically it isn’t pedophilia

so just because you were abused that means you get to jerk off to a 14 year old? as a grown man in university? i love the way y’all think lmaooo HES A PEDO

It's not pedophilia, if it was; the moment Jinha matured into a young adult, as he is, in the current timeline. Won should've already lost interest in him, he did not. Because he's in fact not a "pedophile," he was never interested with underdeveloped bodies. He may not be attracted to children but he was indeed a sexual predator. They may be mutually inclusive, but they aren't synonymous.

Yeah, technically it's not pedophilia but we aren't here to argue about semantics. We both know what we meant. Won is indeed showing signs of predatory behavior, but he wasn't preying on him specifically because he was a child.

Cop murders a black man ≠ cop is racist. Both events may happen at the same time, but it doesn't mean that the two are homogeneous. Cop may murder a black man because he was racist but just because a cop murdered a black man he is then racist.

Looking back at Won, he was indeed preying on his savior, Jinha. Jinha maybe a middle schooler, but he did not prey on him specifically because he was a middle schooler. Both events may happen at the same time but they aren't equivalent.

When someone can't argue, they hurl insults at the other party then make up scenarios and speculations to antagonize them. Just so they are "right" in their little heads and the other party is unreasonable and evil. Not taking any external criticism, because they are 'superior' and therefore infallible.

So where do you draw the line with that? Even when he turned the 14 yr old into a sexual fantasy u don’t consider that phedophilla so what do you call that tho? Would u have the same attitude if he was 9 instead of 14?? I feel like his circumstances still doesn’t negate the fact that it’s pedophilia. Like I need to know where you’re coming from.

i did not insult you lmaooo you just don’t have anything else to say

but he IS preying on an actual child. like, the person he’s actively preying on is a child. he is a child predator.

it’s more like, cop murders black man = cop is a murderer. the cop quite literally, actually took a life. he killed someone. he might not have killed that black man because he’s black, but he did kill him.

non-pedophiles don’t actively continue to have sexual feelings about someone once they learn that person is a child. they STOP pursuing that child. PEDOPHILES do not. that’s the difference here.

they’re not coming from anywhere they probably just want to justify won’s actions in their head to be able to continue to ship them with a clean conscience lol. like i genuinely don’t get this. “he IS preying on a 14 year old, but he isn’t doing that because of the fact that he’s 14. calling him a pedo is where i draw the line!!!!!”

LMFAOO that’s what I thought too like girl we can agree the man’s a pedo we understand the circumstances but that doesn’t change the facts like. u can still read the story dawg…..

he’s TECHNICALLY not a pedo tho!!! even tho if he had acted on his desires and had a relationship with a 14 year old jinha, we would’ve been found guilty in a court of law, he’s not a pedo!!!!! same brand of flawed thinking as saying “nooooo! u can’t say you’re anxious if you don’t have a clinical diagnosis of anxiety from a board certified psychiatrist!”

Sorry i was inactive for long, this left my notification. The thing is he wasn’t attracted to the fact that he was “young,” thats a very clear distinction. Pedophilia is a very serious mental problem, and people that have these need help. I know i’m arguing semantics but psychology is very complex. The uke won’t have to attend a therapist and maybe chemically castrate himself because he’s not attracted to minors. But people with pedophilia go on their everyday life maybe having these intrusive thoughts unable to function well. That’s why its a mental disorder because its debilitating.

Preying? What do you mean by that? What i remembered happening is the uke disappeared from the guy’s life for several years until after the brother’s death. So prey tell how did he actually prey on the child?

yes, the cop murdered the black man not because he was racist. But again using that same logic, the uke didnt rape the seme, so how could he be a pedo?

Pedophiles continue to have sexual feelings to children because of the fact that they are children. The thing is the seme have grown and the uke still likes him. So doesn’t that make him not attracted to children = not a pedophile?

“They stop pursuing that child” is that not what happened here? First and foremost he never pursued him.

See this is what i meant by hurling insults at the other just so they can vilify them and therefore not accepting any argument making them the “righteous one.”

I do not ship them, i don’t even like the story to be honest. I’d put this in my dislike list if there was.

But since you’ve made it in your head that anyone and everyone who argues from the other side of the coin is then equivalent to the people in the argument.

I’m not drawing any line nor i am making pedophilia justified. It’s abhorrent and repulsive.

but he didnt act, nor was in he a relationship with him. He simply disappeared in his life for several years. He wouldn’t be found guilty in a court law.

Being anxious is a state of mind, anxiety is a mental disorder. Human psychology is extremely complex and intricate. Thats why people have to learn it for years and even decades. And why people have to be clinically diagnosed for depression and not from a tiktok post

and why everyone don’t have the ability claim that ‘this person’ is sad and anxious. He has depression and anxiety

Yes, preying. Have you read the manga recently? He literally consistently goes to Jinha’s house under the pretense of being his brother’s bf to be close to him. While he’s still a child. He’s actively fantasizing about being with this child. He locks eyes with him while having sex and instead of what a normal adult would do, he gets so giddy that Jinha’s sexually attracted to him too. That man was preying on a child and i don’t know why you’re trying to deny this fact.

for someone who’s OBSESSED with the semantics of the word “pedophile” you sure don’t know what an “insult” is.

Because by your definition, rape isn’t a prerequisite for being a pedophile? Why are you now moving the goalposts? You don’t have to act on something like sexual perversions for it to be true.

Non-pedophiles cease to have sexual or romantic feelings for a person after they learn that they’re a child. That makes him still attracted to a child = pedophile.

Also he pursued him. Do you think he was tutoring that kid out of the kindness of his heart?

I said “IF he had acted on it, he WOULD HAVE been found guilty”, not that he did. Being attracted to a child is a pedophilic action, you are being pedophilic when you are attracted to a child. And he came REALLL close to acting on it. He was planning on how to pursue him before disappearing from his life. He didn’t disappear from his life bc he felt what he was doing was wrong.

I’m sorry but you don’t know how logic works. I’m saying what you’re saying is like “you can’t say you’re anxious without a diagnosis” NOT “you can’t say you have anxiety without a diagnosis”. If you can’t tell the difference between these statements, I don’t think you’re particularly skilled at comparative comprehension either. (Hint, this isn’t an insult either!!)

Forgot to mention, uke shows a higher degree of fondness for the brown haired guy, at least from what I saw. One can only hope

it's always the black haired guy!

Where did you read the raws?

The puppies always loses the race in the battle with the stoic and grumpy black haired MLs this is damn sad…

LOL you’re so real for this

How so?? Was it because they were seperated for so long?

The symbolism and the background of the mc, his parents story. The small tidbits of flashbacks from the past, the conflict, rendezvous and interconnection with the demonic entity. How he struggled with the relationship w the ml, and his self sacrifice; the sex w a rando just to push the him away in order to protect him. Everything was building up on the eventual climax, how is he saving him— them. How is he gonna liberate themselves from the inescapable 'curse' that has haunted not just them, but also the generation before them, the mcs parents. The whole plot was simply thrown out of the window in that last chapter. Practically, disregarded and omitted. His demon suddenly went non existent? Ml suddenly leaving w no indication and just leaving a single note? The whole characterization of the ml was essentially, stubborn, unwilling and even obsessive. He left just like that, a severe mischaracterization. There's so much more but I'm gonna put a halt. It's like the author suddenly lost all the drive, just passed any shit before hitting the deadline. Im severely disappointed, w his other work already being a classic, at least according to my acumen. This becoming a book that is just good, one that makes you feel good but shelved forever and maybe forgotten in the passage of time. Not, that one would seem to reread, to relive the sheer experience of the ride.

i feel like a lot of the things that you criticized have an explanation. kei’s demon didn’t just suddenly cease, the point was he was never a demon in the first place, and instead his childhood guild and repressed memories that he was never able to process properly. once he uncovered those, he was able to finally let go of what was haunting him the whole time. as for youichi leaving, i feel like he HAD to in order for kei to proceed with his plan to expose the president. youichi knew that kei wanted to protect him so he left so kei wouldn’t hold back anymore. he was able to go through with fighting back without any fear that youichi would get hurt. definitely not out of character and instead shows character development for them.