Rora's Topics (56)

Did u ever tell her?

i actually have a question
the queen & prince said dat she kiss him & said she luv him but did dat actually happen???
coz were talking bout their standard where "I don't hate u" = "I luv u a lot"

i honestly don't even know. I could totally believe that both the queen and the prince are lying, but I think it's more likely that the queen was telling the truth.

i feel like shes lying so the girl will stay with the prince otherwise theres no reason 4 the girl 2 stay with him

I kinda don't like how she treata eclise though

Sane

Same

Same.. I just hope she'll treat him more nicer not like an object and making him feel indebted to her.. However, since he keeps falling for her tho even tho she treat him like that

ngl i love the tension between two though, you can just tell it’s gonna end badly lol

Idk I like it when characters do morally grey things. Don't get me wrong she's being awful, but it's also smart. She believes he's not going to love her more than the real protagonist, so she'd rather make him loyal to her no matter what, than trust that he'll always have affection for her. So even though I think she's in the wrong, I think she's a really interesting character and the story would be so boring if she was a good person who did everything right.

I know right? it drives me crazy how easy it is in other stories for them, it feels so bs and easy.

I feel you, those stories are brain numbing.

Manipulation is still manipulation, and I don't like manipulation

fair enough

True. Everyone is being too mean to her. Even I would question if Chloe is really a princess if I were put to her situation. She's a known hairdresser and she's known to be excellent at that and suddenly she'll find out that there's a chance she'll just doing some slave's hair. That would be an insult to her skills.

Yeah. I get it if people were a little cautious about her, but to be so defensive about one comment. It was wild how many comments were just calling her a bitch.

Why do I feel like everything is a misunderstanding or maybe the father didn't want the Emperor to use her bruh this is so confusing

Eh he dosnt show his affection twards his daughter to everyone... He mainly only showes them to his desiple. The reason being that he has many enemies and the curent king knows his weakness and is threatening him to do work with it.
The father has power equal to the king and on top of that he is a well know war hero and fighter. The king is using the weakness to keep him in check as he could easerly be crowned king if he wished. Aka the father cant aford to show weakness because ppl would harm FL.

He's not dumb, he's not showing affection towards her daughter to anybody, he only showed it to ml bc he's father's disciple. And the king is threatening father to do whatever he says, if he don't he can harm whatever father adores- FL, so father don't show that his weakness is her daughter to anyone to not to get her in any danger and no-one can harm her. So it's just lack of communication between fl and her father. Father loves fl very much to the point he's even bearing threats from king.

Bruh, if he just explained to his daughter there would be no misunderstanding. He could act cold in public, and be more endearing in private. If he can find a way to speak openly with his disciple, who is a bigger threat to the emperor, he could've tried harder for his daughter. The story just wanted angst but didn't want to commit in making the father a bad person.

Dude.. being a WAR HERO, the father has many enemies. On top of that Nobel famelies genraly try to take out the competition. SO its normal for spies to be among the servants of the estates because The Father isnt the one controle who gets hired! He is honest with the ppl he trust, but when you live sorounded by spies plante by your enemies its not as simple as "oh il just show my weakness to them all"
Plz take the fathers personality into acount to. He was a soldier, a Living Weapon everyone considers a Monster. He only got a weakness when FL was Born! Before that he thought "women are weak and useless, love is not needed, those who love are dumb".
To him showing weakness = putting his daughter up like a lamb for slaughter.
AKA He donst know how to show love! And fears showing it would ruin his daughter.
Ultimately yes his lack of love doomed FL, but thats because she fell head over heels for the first person that shoved her consideration. The father wasnt even home most of the time because the king keeps sending him on missions he hops kills him.. So why werht here servant giving FL love or kindness?

Exactly. I mean the whole misunderstanding is a fault of both of em, not the father alone.

Yeah, I get that he has to be secretive, but he could've still explained to his daughter. I'm not saying he has to openly show love, just speak candidly with her. He does that with the crown prince, so I don't know what's stopping him from speaking with his daughter. And if it's because he thinks women are weak or whatever, then yeah, he's dumb and leading his own daughter to doom. I'm just saying the manga shows us there are ways he can communicate with her without it being upfront and in the open. I mean if the crown prince, who is the biggest wanted man in the empire, can meet up with her in secret, then I'm sure the father could've found a way to do the same since he's got a lot of resources .

He could've done so many things that wouldn't jeopardise the two of them and not get the attention of the emperor. Like sending her to the punishment room in which he can pretend to others that he's scolding her, but instead is explaining to her how fucked their situation is. Or send her an encrypted letter. He could've also sent someone he trusts, like the same people he sends to speak with the crown prince, to talk in his behalf to the FL. It just doesn't make sense for him not to try any of these in the 16/17 years she's been alive.

And with his personality it would make even more sense that he would tell his daughter. Make her prepared for the worst to come instead of leaving her in the dark, and then letting her do something stupid because she didn't know any better. The whole tragedy of the original novel would most likely not have happened as the FL would be more wary of other nobles and would've known that she'll always have her father's love and support.

Yes that would be the logical thing for a NORMAL person and nobel to do, but he aint normal. Just like you dont expect someone with PTSD, who grew up in a warzone sorounded by corpeses and had to kill for a living to be able to single handedly rais a loving happy child. And thats literaly what your are asking of him.
His entire life has been on the battlefield, he was forced to have children because thats whats expected and his wife died almost right after the daughter was born, ad to that the fact that the wife may not have died from natural causes and the fact that he is even now 16 years later being sent to battle fields and suicide missons by a corrupt ahole king he cant go against. And yet your expecting him to have time and the capability to show love? He hardly knows how to smile!

The reason he can speak happily with the prince is because he took in the prince and raised him to Fight, he trained the prince like he himself was trained and they developed a bond. He cant do that to his daughter, let alone drag a small girl into a bloodsoaked battlefield. On top of that he was hardly ever home and when he got home he was greeted by the equivilant of a baby bunny, where as he himself is seen as a moster. He feared crushing her, ruining her or tranishing her.

As the story goes on he becomes more open because FL shoves him that she wont break so easerly and that she is worried for him. Those things are something he never thought anyone would do or feel twards him!

Like I said, he doesn't have to act like a normal affectionate father. The most I'm expecting from him is the speak bluntly with her, and it will most likely be awkward, but at least that lessens the misunderstandings. I don't think the father is a bad guy because he has the communication skills of a toddler, but I am saying his negligence in this department was dumb. Also, the fact that he's leaving his daughter in the dark, as you said not dragging her into the battlefield, is dumb on his part because he knows it's inescapable. The Emperor is already using her, and the duke knows that! She's already in the battlefield, probably by the day she was born she was already being used by the Emperor. He's just making her more vulnerable by keeping her out of the loop.

Especially coming from someone who is supposed to be super vigilant and is capable of reading people like the crown prince and the emperor. It's weird that he can't sense his own daughter's discomfort and fear. In fact, he should be really accustomed to people feeling that way to him. Also it's been sixteen years, and even if he's going in and out, he's had time to speak with her even briefly. I mean we know at some point she was close enough with him to make and hand him gifts.

Again, I'm not asking for him to show love. I think he does that the only way he knows how. Yet I did expect him to speak with her in less misleading ways. It seems that only in front of his daughter he forgets how to speak eloquently and instead opts for short command clauses. I think the father is dumb, but not an evil father and the comment about PTSD doesn't change that he made poor choices. And this is obviously not a critic on people with PTSD, but the actions of one character which you have inferred has PTSD.

He literaly never talks to women, let alone female nobels. How is he serpose to have the skill to speak openly with his daughter whom he may see at most onece every few days. Also his main way of communicating is giving direct and detailed explanations on enemy movements and not talking cassualy to ppl. He even dosnt talk cassualy to his men, only to Max. The dad is super antisocial, add to that the fact that he never talks to women or "girls" and rarely talks to the fmale staff. Think back the maid was shocked when the father talked to her. The father is the living incarnation of a none social, person whom ppl can accidentaly think is a mute..

Yet the father is a saint when compared to Max'es dad the king...

How many modern day familes suffer from a dad thats hardly home because he works and is only home to sleep a few hours and then leaves? The only difrence is that FL's dad is a single parent.

Yeah, that's not a good enough excuse to not talk to your daughter. She's literally sixteen, and you're telling me he hasn't tried until recently to talk to her. I think I'm allowed to call him dumb. Besides we see him show moments of genuine and honest care, but he only does this when she's in serious pain. Someone with half a brain cell would realise that, hum, maybe I should communicate with her the same way I communicate with others and I shouldn't' do that when she's barely conscious. Because he does talk with his men in a more straight-forward and less misleading way, it's only with his daughter that he goes stupid. Which I'm totally fine with accepting as his character flaw. But that still is a poor choice on his part.

And I don't see what's the point in comparing him to the emperor. I know he's worse. No doubt that the emperor is a bad father. It's the fact that the duke isn't a bad father yet doesn't know how to act which is frustrating. Also, the emperor can be a bad father and the duke can make stupid decision. Those aren't mutually exclusive things.

We can agree to disagree. You can continue defending the father and I'll continue seeing him as dumb, specifically in this department. I just personally don't like people blaming the FL for the misunderstanding, when she's just a kid. It's the parent's responsibility to be mature and fix misunderstandings. And I don't hate the dad, I think he's a great character and the fact that he makes poor decisions is good. Characters should have flaws, the story would be boring without it.

It is hypocritical but it shows promise of changing. The queen is also invested in the princess's well-being, so hopefully, she'll take interest in her intelligence as well.

I think she means cute in the sense that shes adorable not that shes pretty. At least in asian cultures, when we say pretty or cute, its less about looks and more about the way they act, in chinese cute 可爱 literally mean to be able to be loved. Moreover i don't think the story is trying to push such a bland moral of "looks don't matter" rather more just a complex struggle on the realities of being without "pretty priviledge."

Yeah, maybe it's a cultural difference. Though it's still suspicious that the Queen was obsessed just by looking at Blanche, without knowing her, so it does have me thinking that it's an appearance thing. However, it can just be the difference in language and culture.

Hope so too.