I keep seeing how people say this is a green flag but I personally don't see it, their first time having sex was forceful and rapey with him saying no and I won't push you away cuz you will have a concussion and the same just taking that as a yes, I didn't like it and found it very uncomfortable. Now if you like the story and the couple that's fine I just can't handle scenes like that, if ink ew it was there I wouldn't have read it but, here I am, it was ok I guess before that, all the consensual touching while the smell was drunk and using his job as his employer because he knew he could get away with it is very icky. There were plenty of red flags for me and there could be for others so I am putting this here
I totally agree. I will add: The first 3 proper s*x scenes Jinyi is always hurting him at the beginning. Pushing him against some, grabbing his wrist and arm forcefully, fingering with two fingers without lotion... Jisso always says 'Ow'. Jinyi ist really rough with Jisoo. Is he that bad at gentle sex? Is he too excited to be gentle? Does it excuse it his rough AND pushy behaviour during s*x? I felt assaulted for Jisoo. The story is fine but the smut is a turn off because they are always in a hurry.
I need a break, I on chapter 45 and I am literally trying to scratch through my phone to kill guemsan just basically raped 704 and san saw that shit and was like "so y'all having sex" did that SOUND LIKE SEX OR VIOLENCE he obviously knows the difference cuz he doesn't treat eunjae that way and feels it's wrong, I am honestl, ugh I just want him dead, he doesn't tell him shit, he treats him like shit, and rapes home like he is a piece of shit
Finally found someone with the same thoughts as I am. I just couldn't like him ever since the first scene where he pinned 704 down and graped him. I literally skipped their whole side story bcuz heck no way, they can never make me Geumsan.
omg that was the reason why i hated him so much. when we got the backstory flashbacks, i didn't even read it because i was so boredddd. after the season ended, i asked the comments if i should go back and reread it and they said i should. yeah, i still dont really like him...
Yeah the author kinda dropped the ball on their initial chapters. I think the rest of their story is written well but it's understandable if you couldn't get into it because Geumsan was written like a dick. I hated him too and while I liked the story, I didn't understand why the author made that decision and portray rape.
Their relationship is really complex and while it doesn't make it okay what Geumsan did, there is a point to it. He treats 704 the way he does with a purpose which is the author's overall statement, imo. Their story is the why of it all. Why are they like this, why did they become like this, will they always have to be like this?
Again, doesn't change the now but I think Yama sums it up nicely later on.
I dropped this awhile ago and forgot why, and since it was super popular and said to be whole I came back then I remembered why I dropped it, I just didn't like how pushy yechan was about his feelings and stuff, I get he was excited and really liked him ,I just felt uncomfortable with all the following, confessing, forcing him to answer his calls and basically drove sun yool I to a corner to give up and open his heart a little especially after he had JUST broke up with someone. I am not saying he is bad or anything the story is quite wholesome I just didn't like how yechan was acting made me.super uncomfortable PERSONALLY. This type of behavior can be seen as cute and puppy like and I have no problem with people seeing it that way, I just don't. I don't want to make it seem like the story is trash or anything like I said it is still a wholesome story just not something I would continue for the reasons stated would just leave a bitter taste in my mouth
thank god i’m not alone. yechan was just waaaayyy too over the top for me personally. i get he’s not used to anyone his age or having feelings about someone but he was really pushy and needy about whatever he wanted. he expected results NOW without any room for yool to breathe… idk it’s very fluffy and wholesome just too much of yechan being so.. hmmm, energetic i guess? i wish he would’ve taken a breath and just chilled out for a moment
Exactly
He chilled out for like, two years plus some though??? He literally waited years for Yool to even say they were in fact dating and that he actually liked him what’re yall talking about
I don’t think he was “too” pushy, yool being fresh out of a relationship isn’t really a factor cause it had been over for a long while, they just didn’t wanna call it that till now, so it has nothing to do with the breakup being fresh, his real problem was where he was in life 8 years into his decision to give up music for his ex and to give into his dad’s demands and where he stood now in that depressive state
And yechan is being underestimated, first by the ex then yool assuming yechan himself doesn’t know he likes yool when he DOES know, and then yool basically teases and flirts with him till yechan finally confesses and then yool panics cause he didn’t expect yechan to be so self aware and tries to run away from the confession? And yechan isn’t stupid he knows yool likes him too that’s why he’s persistent and doesn’t allow yool to act like it never happened just cause yool was overthinking things when it’s simple,
plus he might be older but he wasn’t wiser he was lost about what he should do and depresso and not taking care of himself and needed a friend like yechan that has his shit together to overstep boundaries (which weren’t even really boundaries cause yool COULD entirely push him away if he wanted to, bro didn’t even change the front door passcode) and step in and take care of him, yool didn’t need to be left alone he needed that kind of stable positive force pushing him to rediscover his passion for music
The only way he pushed romantically was not allowing yool to pretend his confession didn’t happen, he didn’t expect romance back from him here and now, and any other affection he showed was just him being him and yool didn’t mind it at all, and even if you pretend yool didn’t like him and yechan was unwelcome yu can’t keep calling it that past the end of summer, yool kept in touch with him with video calls and meeting yechan throughout his military service, like the walls he was putting up were made out of styrofoam from the start
I mean sure, I still find doing those things weird even if the the person lets it happen, I just don't like seeing it, especially cuz I have alot of boundaries, and because I can be a pushover and be overly nice especially when I don't want to do something it just makes me uncomfortable to watch, that's all
After coming back after the update the story is very underwhelming now. In the beginning it was very interesting and new with him being sucked into the acting universe and seeing as real, and him acquiring new skill after each roll really laid down the supernatural affect. I even like him being confused about who he was and his feeling for the actor girl but only I live with her character. After the update it seems that everything is being rushed he just automatically forgets his turmoil of being sucked into real situations from the acting he magically forgets his feelings for the actor girl but still likes her and the actor girl likes him, but not really him she likes a version of him he played when acting and his skills he developed after, her doesn't even know the real him but thats not being brought up, there is no story behind his new power and how he got it, the jealous actor guys is all of a sudden like a brother to him, the company that seemed like they were scheming against him is forgotten, everything went to shit
2 chapters, 2 CHAPTERS!! and I hate everyone I drew the line at the fairy but then here comes ED! That little bitch, he is a whole ass bully, she would CRY after every talk with him, but her heart skips a beat, cuz he said 1 nice thing and she has the audacity to be like "maybe if I smiled more we would have been better" noooooooo, maybe of he wasn't an ASSHOLE you would have been better, I can't I am done, fuck this I am out
Can someone recommend some actually nice mls that doesn't have the personality of a Chihuahua from hell
I have officially started an Army called the Kar-bears, (a play on the cartoon for kids care bears and karhans name), I am recruiting people for a special mission to kill his mother, who shall be called baby back bitch, and everyone who has shunned out pressure Bear, who is with me
WE RIDE AT DAWN AND HUGS COME AFTER, DURING, AND BEFORE THE MISSION.
IM JOINING
REPORTING FOR DUTY!!
WAITING FOR ORDERS SIR
HEAR HEAR!
COMMANDER!
ON STANDBY WITH MY SWORD, SHIELD AND HUGS (￣^￣ )ゞ
I shall bring poison if we fail at a direct approach, the mother must be killed and the father too for allowing it.
(╯°Д °)╯╧╧
i’ll find a hole to kick her in (︶︿︶)＝凸
ROGER!
I’m all ears chief!
REPORTING FOR DUTY, MA'AM/SIR!
Soo it's new that the uke admits to being raped cuz he was drunk but was the point in him admitting it if the author wasn't going to take it seriously, you might as well as just brushed it off as drunk sex where people don't care that they had sex while drunk, it probably wouldn't leave such a bitter taste in people's mouths, or just not have it AT ALL but I guess common sense isn't what the author was going for
Bruh stf it's fictional story why you wanna take everything seriously do you take coming inside ass real thing? It leads to STDs as well
Mate, oftentimes, fiction is called fiction and not non-fiction aight? Ya don't have to take everything as if it's happening in real life (obv don't do noncon sex irl)
not this shitty ranting again
Yes it's fiction, sometimes I don't like certain things, I just found it weird to make that did if this is just gonna be porn that's all
If you mean the rape rant, that not the point I was trying to make, I have already accepted that it's common, I may not like it, but ain't no use beating a dead horse, just upset when it is said it brought up it leads to nothing, like bringing up that they live in a world with fairies and it has zero to do with the plot or what going on
I know it's not real life, I was simply describing a plot device that didn't make sense to me, that others may have seen, it's a story, yes, sometimes stories don't make sense or are bit liked, thats life
I agree,it feels like the concept of consent and nonconsent exists in the fictional world the mangaka created, but the gravity, the consequence and aftermath don't!
who let this high schooler read this ??
Hahaha definitely not a high schooler just an adult who reads manga
Exactly, it's like living in a world where serial killers exist but they don't got to jail or ever get caught, people on this thread think, the rape was the only problem for me, I am not someone who is new to manga that is very normal here, but it's very romantisced so it's easily digested, but here it's like the author forgot to romanticize it and just brushed past it, making it confusing as to why it was brought up in the first place, should have just been like the rest where it's not addressed as rape and just drunk sex or some other dumb ass shit, hahaha
True.I wonder if the people commenting things like 'it's a fictional world ' would comment the same if the rapist were not good looking.Pretty privilege plays a big role here!
Then write this in seinen stories who do same to women and girl in stories you complaint in yaoi like you will get butterflies it's written by women for women if you are gay better don't even think of reading yaoi at all men enjoy fetishing woman body and then women do same you come with your flag of consent and reality
First of all,I am a girl,and I don't enjoy fetishing on any gender's body,also if I read seinen(which I don't generally read) with the same plot(rape,sa),I will surely write the same thing and drop it and move on.Again,if you enjoy such thing,be my guest,there's no need to convince others who are uncomfortable with the plot.
The comment was written after I read the 1st chapter,I dropped it after that.So I have not written any other comment complaing about it or anything.If my previous comment is bothering you so much( I don't understand why tho,I just commented on the author's interesting choice !)you do know that you can mute this thread right?!
On chapter 46, why did she take monocle guys reason as to why she hadn't been promoted so harshly, she even admitted he was right, it's not like emhe yelled at her, he still complimented her ability, he just said she didn't put in any effort WHICH SHE DIDN'T, I understand why she didn't and I think he does too, but it didn't remove the fact that she still didn't. And then she asks for a promotion, as a boss he handled it quite well, but she can't return to work because of it, even the arachne chick told her she would have difficulties. And she was all "I don't think we could Elbe friend even thought he went to my funeral in the future" girl if someone just telling you, you can't be promoted because of your lack of effort is evil, you have some other stuff you should be worried about, it's times like these when call tell she is the youngest and only girl because she is spoiled and can't really take criticism,